"Free Polanski" = Liberals gone crazy

Originally posted by pavil
Also, please reread my posts, I have only claimed it to be Left Leaning members of Hollywood, not "THE LEFT" in general as you state.

OK, fair enough. Others have said that but you were this specific. Then you went and kept typing though.

Don't paint me with a broad brush, when that isn't the case. When people do that, it clouds the debate further.

Thank You.

What size brush are you using on left-leaning hollywood? Do you have any idea how many people are actually in Hollywood and left leaning compared to this list? Where do you get brushes that broad?

Originally posted by Aeons

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by Aeons
“If I had killed somebody, it wouldn’t have had so much appeal to the press, you see? But… f—ing, you see, and the young girls. Judges want to f— young girls. Juries want to f— young girls. Everyone wants to f— young girls!”
-Roman Polanski, Interview with Martin Amis 1979

HOLY cow he said that?

Yep. Apparently his defense is that everyone is a child rapist.

Well with a quote like this, there leaves no room for argument about him and his moment of weakness,

Originally posted by 27jd
reply to post by Lillydale

 

You consider me 'rightwing'? That's a first, usually the rightwingers call me a looney liberal.

Also, i never said anything about hanging, that's WAY too humane. When it comes to child predators, i would prefer some of the devices on that show "machines of malice".

So far in this thread you sure as hell are and I am real sorry that you did not understand but that "hang" thing was not a direct quote so there is no need to state that you did not mention hanging. I thought people would gather that from the context on their own but hey, I give out a lot of credit.

reply to post by Lillydale


And I'm sorry to see that you have such a desire to categorize people into the two party/wing BS system in order to agree or disagree with somebody. And i know the hanging thing wasn't a direct quote, but i felt it provided a good opportunity to further illustrate what i believe should happen to child predators. You don't have to like or agree with it, just hope i never take charge of this country.





[edit on 30-9-2009 by 27jd]

Originally posted by Aeons
Please feel free to pull out names that are popular in culture, so that we know who to look for to heap our disgust upon.

Signatories as of today

List of the ones they are particularly proud of:

Woody Allen, Pedro Almodovar, Jean-Jacques Annaud, Fanny Ardant, Asia Argento, Olivier Assayas, Monica Bellucci, Patrice Chéreau, Luc et Jean-Pierre Dardenne, Jonathan Demme, Costa Gavras, Terry Gilliam, Wong Kar Waï, Jan Kounen, Emir Kusturica, John Landis, David Lynch, Tonie Marshall, Radu Mihaileanu, Jeanne Moreau, Yasmina Reza, Barbet Schroeder, Ettore Scola, Martin Scorsese, Tilda Swinton, Giuseppe Tornatore, Wim Wenders...

full list:

Erika Abrams, Fatih Akin, Yves Alberty, Stephane Allagnon, Woody Allen, Pedro Almodovar, Gianni Amelio, Wess Anderson, Michel Andrieu, Roger Andrieux, Jean-Jacques Annaud, Frédéric Aranzueque-Arrieta, Alexandre Arcady, Fanny Ardant, Asia Argento, Marie-Hélène Arnau, Darren Aronofsky, Olivier Assayas, Alexander Astruc, Gabriel Auer, Zdzicho Augustyniak, Alexandre Babel, Fausto Nicolás Balbi, Eleonor Baldwin, Jean-François Balmer, Alberto Barbera Museo nazionale de Torino, Luc Barnier, Christophe Barratier, Carmen Bartl, Pascal Batigne, Anne Baudry, Juan Antonio Bayona, Xavier Beauvois, Liria Begeja, Gilles Behat, Jean-Jacques Beineix, Marco Bellochio, Yannick Bellon, Monica Bellucci, Véra Belmont, Jean-Marc Benguigui, Djamel Bennecib, Luc Béraud, Jacob Berger, Alain Berliner, Gael Garcia Bernal, Pascal Berney, Bernardo Bertolucci, Giuseppe Bertolucci, Marlène Bisson, Arnstein Bjørkly, Lucien Blacher, Catherine Boissière, Olivier Bonnet, Thierry Boscheron, Freddy Bossy, Patrick Bouchitey, Cédric Bouchoucha, Paul Boujenah, Frédéric Bourboulon, Katia Boutin (Membre de l'équipe du dernier film de Roman Polanski "The Ghost"), Jacques Bral, Sophie Bramly, Paulo Branco, Patrick Braoudé, Guila Braoudé, Isabelle Broué, Merima Bruncevic, Anne Burki, André Buytaers, Anthony Byrne, Marco Cacioppo, Gerald Calderon, Monica Cannizzaro, Christian Carion, Henning Carlsen, Jean-Michel Carré, Lionel Cassan (Membre de l'équipe du dernier film de Roman Polanski "The Ghost"), Mathieu Celary, Teco Celio, Muriel Cerf, Chagi, Daniel Champagnon, Christophe Champclaux, Fabienne Chauveau, Claire Chazal, Patrice Chéreau, Brigitte Chesneau, Mishka Cheyko, Catherine Chiono, Catherine Chouchan, Elie Chouraqui, Souleymane Cissé, Jean-Pierre Clech, Henri Codenie, Ethan Coen, Robert Cohen, Jean-Paul Commin, Anne Consigny, Alain Cophignon, Alain Corneau, Jérôme Cornuau, Guy Courtecuisse (Membre de l'équipe du dernier film de Roman Polanski "The Ghost"), Miguel Courtois, Guillaume Cousin, Morgan Crestel, Dominique Crevecoeur, Penelope Cruz, Alfonso Cuaron, Estelle Cywje, Frédéric Damien, Sophie Danon, Olivier Dard, Luc et Jean-Pierre Dardenne, Hervé de Luze (Membre de l'équipe du dernier film de Roman Polanski "The Ghost"), Valérie de Saint-Do, Guillermo del Toro, Benoît Delmas, Jonathan Demme, Ruud den Dryver, Dante Desarthe, Romain Desbiens, Thomas Desjonquères (Membre de l'équipe du dernier film de Roman Polanski "The Ghost"), Alexandre Desplat, Chris Devi, Rosalinde et Michel Deville, Guillaume D'Ham (Membre de l'équipe du dernier film de Roman Polanski "The Ghost"), Christelle Didier (Membre de l'équipe du dernier film de Roman Polanski "The Ghost"), Kathrin DiPaola, Claire Dixsaut, Ariel Dorfman, Jean Douchet, Fabrice du Welz, Marina Duarte Nunes Ferreira, Georges Dybman, Daniel Edinger, Elrem, Sam Enoch, Ernest, Jacques Fansten, Joël Farges, Gianluca Farinelli (Cinémathèque de de Bologne), Etienne Faure, Michel Ferry, Jean Teddy Filippe (Membre de l'équipe du dernier film de Roman Polanski "The Ghost"), Aurélie Fiorentino, Alan Fischer, Martine Fitoussi, Sebastian Fleischhacker, Joy Fleury, Scott Foundas, Werner Fraai, Stephen Frears, Thierry Frémaux, Marc Freycon, Sam Gabarski, René Gainville, Matteo Garone, Yves Gasser, Tony Gatlif, Catherine Gaudin-Montalto, Jean-Marc Gauthier, Costa Gavras, Nathalie Geiser, Lizi Gelber, Isabelle Gély, Jean-Marc Ghanassia, Alain Gil, Véronique Gillet, Terry Gilliam, Christian Gion, François Girault, Stéphane Gizard, Carlos Miguel Bernardo González, Christophe Goumand, Eric Gravereau, Philippe Gruss, Marc Guidoni, Mikael Håfström, Ronald Harwood, Dimitri Haulet, Buck Henry, David Heyman, Laurent Heynemann, Dominique Hollier, Isabelle Hontebeyrie, Frédéric Horiszny, Robert Hossein, Jean-Loup Hubert, Wendy Hudson Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu, Gilles Jacob, Eric et Veronique et Nicolas Jacquelin, Just Jaeckin, Thomas Jahn, Olivia Janik, Jean-Baptiste Jay, Anne Jeandet, Alain Jessua, Sébastien Jimenez, Arthur Joffé, Pierre Jolivet, Kent Jones (World Cinema Foundation), Alexandra Julen, Paola Jullian, Roger Kahane, Pierre Kalfon, Reena Kanji, Nelly Kaplan, Wong Kar Waï, Darius Khondji, Ladislas Kijno, Richard Klebinder, Jonathan Klein, Harmony Korinne, Jan Kounen, Sylvia Kristel, Diane Kurys, Emir Kusturica, Jean Labadie, Eliane Lacroux, Michel Laigle, Stéphane Lam, John Landis, Claude Lanzmann, David Lanzmann, André Larquié, Pauline Larrieu, Jacques et Françoise Lassalle, Carole Laure, Christine Laurent-Blixen, Emilien Lazaron (Membre de l'équipe du dernier film de Roman Polanski "The Ghost"), Eric Le Roy, Fábio Leal, Vinciane Lecocq, Patrice Leconte, Linda Lefebvre, Claude Lelouch, Alain Lenglet, Gérard Lenne, Larry Levine, Lorraine Lévy, Pierre et Renée Lhomme, Marceline Loridan-Ivens, catalina Lozano, Hugo Luczyc-Wyhowski, Laurence Lustyk, David Lynch, Bania Madjbar, Laurent Malet, Tim Malieckal, Guy Malugani, Michael Mann, Yvon Marciano, François Margolin, Jean-Pierre Marois, Tonie Marshall, Alain Martin, Sandrine Martin, Didier Martiny, Mario Martone, Christine Mathis, Esmeralda Mattei, Nicolas Mauvernay, Yannick Mazet, Christopher, Spencer et Claire Mc Andrew, Guillermo Menaldi, Frédéric Mermoud, Allison Michel, Radu Mihaileanu, Jean-Louis Milesi, Claude Miller, Lionel Miniato, Nelly Moaligou, Jean-Marc Modeste, Mario Monicelli, Jeanne Moreau, Gael Morel, Omayra Muñiz Fernández, Stephanie Murat, Christian Mvogo Mbarga, Anna N.Levine, Charles Nemes, Juliette Nicolas-Donnard, Sandra Nicolier, Rachel Noël, Rui Nogueira, Olivier Nolin, Michel Ocelot, David Ogando, Mariana Oliveira Santos, Szentgyörgyi Ottó, Martine Pagès, Eric Pape, Abner Pastoll, Alexander Payne, Richard Pena (Directeur Festival de NY), Olivier Père, Suzana Peric (Membre de l'équipe du dernier film de Roman Polanski "The Ghost"), Jacques Perrin, Thomas Pibarot, Arnaud Pierrichon, Stéphane Pietri, Anne Pigeon Bormans, Claude Pinoteau, Michele Placido, Sabrina Poidevin, Agnès Catherine Poirier, Stéphane Pozderec, Harry Prenger, Gilbert Primet, Marie-Hélène Raby, Philippe Radault, Tristan Rain, Jean-Paul Rappeneau, Brett Ratner, Raphael Rebibo, Jo Reymen, Laurence Reymond, Yasmina Reza, Christiane Rhein, Jacques Richard, Dominique Robert, Jean-Jacques Rochut, Yannick Rolandeau, Paul Rondags, Avital Ronell, Graciela Rosato, Kontochristopoulou Roula, Laurence Roulet, Joshua Rout, Florence Rphael, Isabelle Ruh, Martin Ruhe, Sonia Rykiel, Anita S. Chang, Esteban S. Goffin, Marc Saffar, Gabriela Salazar Scherman, Walter Salles, Jean-Paul Salomé, Jean-Frédéric Samie, Marc Sandberg, Léo Scalpel, Jerry Schatzberg, Georg Schmithüsen, Julian Schnabel, Barbet Schroeder, J. Neil Schulman, Pierre Schumacher, Ettore Scola, Luis Gustavo Sconza Zaratin Soares, Martin Scorsese, Andrea Sedlackova, Frank Segier, Guy Seligmann, Lorenzo Semple Jr, Julien Seri, Boris Shlafer, Antoine Silber, Pierre Silvant, Charlotte Silvera, Noel Simsolo, Christophe Sirodeau, Abderrahmane Sissako, Beatrice Sisul Petter Skavlan, Paolo Sorrentino, Roch Stephanik, Karen Stetler, Guillaume Stirn, Jean-Marc Surcin, Tilda Swinton, Jean-Charles Tacchella, Radovan Tadic, Danis Tanovic, Bertrand Tavernier, André Techiné, Cécile Telerman, Harold Alvarado Tenorio, Alain Terzian, Valentine Theret, Virginie Thévenet, Pascal Thomas, Jeremy Thomas, Marc Thomas Charley, Giuseppe Tornatore, Serge Toubiana, Nadine Trintignant, Julie Turcas, Mitja Tušek, Tom Tykwer, Alexandre Tylski, Stephen Ujlaki, Jaques Vallotton, Phil van der Linden, Betrand Van Effenterre, Leopold Van Genechten, Christophe van Rompaey, Dorna van Rouveroy, Vangelis, Christian Verdu, Jean-Pierre Vergne, Sarah Vermande, Marc Villemain, Jean-François Villemer, Daria Vinault, Thomas Vossart, Gilles Walusinski, Eric Watton, Wim Wenders, Anaïse Wittmann, A Wolanin, Arnaud Xainte, Serge Youbiana, Paule Zajdermann, Christian Zeender.

Wish I knew who even 1/4 of those people are. Seems like the majority are from Europe anyway. I did see David Lynch on there. No surprise. Hey I don't see Chuck Norris or Mr. T listed on there.

Roman lived the high life and continued to work in Europe for all of these years. Poor Roman

reply to post by jibeho


I'm hoping that someone who is much better at recognizing celebrity names will take a swing at it. Pop culture isn't my thing.

Originally posted by 27jd
reply to post by Lillydale

 

And I'm sorry to see that you have such a desire to categorize people into the two party/wing BS system in order to agree or disagree with somebody.

Ahem. Did you read the title of this thread by any chance?

And i know the hanging thing wasn't a direct quote, but i felt it provided a good opportunity to further illustrate what i believe should happen to child predators. You don't have to like or agree with it, just hope i never take charge of this country.

I sure don't because I have a feeling that there would be no such thing as a fair trial under you. Anyway, as far as that whole "party" thing goes, please refer to the thread title and get back to me.

reply to post by jibeho


Well, then I guess we should be arguing about the French and not Liberals.

reply to post by Aeons


Most of those names are french, and probably part of the french entertainment industry, is there is such a thing. I recognize a few of the names on the top list...it's shame that Scorcese is on there. I don't know anything about him personally, but i like his films. I'm sure he's a sick SOB though, and from now if i wanted to buy one of his movies, it will be bootleg, lol.

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reply to post by Lillydale


There would still be a fair trial, under my rule. I don't care if you believe me or not, i'm not really running for ruler of america. But if i was offered the job, i wouldn't turn it down. And about the title of the thread, you should probably take that up with the author, i made it VERY clear in my 2nd post on this thread that i did not agree with the partisan tone in the OP.

Originally posted by 27jd
I'm sure he's a sick SOB though, and from now if i wanted to buy one of his movies, it will be bootleg, lol.

Because bootleggers are usually otherwise good citizens that deserve our support? Your logic is interesting.

reply to post by 27jd


I think they are all a little skewed in the brain. We know Woody Allen certainly is. He could probably relate rather closely to Polanski considering that he married is unofficial stepdaughter via his long relationship with Mia Farrow.

reply to post by 27jd


Oh yes and since buying a bootleg would also make you a criminal can I take that to mean that you only support the laws that you like?

reply to post by Lillydale


Sure, they provide quality entertainment at a fraction of the price. They don't rape children anally or support it, so that's a step above polanski and a few on this thread. You see, i could care less if some corporate fat cat gets a little less money. I see where YOUR priorities lie though.

Originally posted by 27jd
And about the title of the thread, you should probably take that up with the author, i made it VERY clear in my 2nd post on this thread that i did not agree with the partisan tone in the OP.

Yeah I tried that too but I was swiftly reminded that the topic of the thread was not Polanski or the crime, the subject is liberals. You asked me why I was sticking to the partisan route, I answered you. Re-read the thread title if it is still unclear.

If you do not want to talk about the thread subject, that is up to you but you have no need to condemn me for staying on topic.

reply to post by Lillydale


Apparently you haven't even read a few pages back in this thread. I also stated that i don't blindly follow laws that are put in place to protect the income of already extremely wealthy scumbags. I support laws that are put in place to actually protect society against crimes that involve real victims, not some exec that may not be able to buy a new personal gulfstream jetliner for himself.

Originally posted by 27jd
reply to post by Lillydale

 

Sure, they provide quality entertainment at a fraction of the price. They don't rape children anally or support it, so that's a step above polanski and a few on this thread.

Really? Are you sure about that? How would you know? Do you have a monopoly on the bootleg movie industry?

You see, i could care less if some corporate fat cat gets a little less money. I see where YOUR priorities lie though.

Ummm....are you sure that is what you meant to say? Where do my priorities lie exactly? How would you have any idea? Criminals are by nature not rule following citizens. The guy my sister used to get her bootleg VHS tapes from back in the late '80s was also a meth dealer at the time and is not in prison for murder. Want to give that guy your ten bucks?

Tell me where my priorities lie.

Originally posted by 27jd
reply to post by Lillydale

 

Apparently you haven't even read a few pages back in this thread. I also stated that i don't blindly follow laws that are put in place to protect the income of already extremely wealthy scumbags. I support laws that are put in place to actually protect society against crimes that involve real victims, not some exec that may not be able to buy a new personal gulfstream jetliner for himself.

Right and you apparently know absolutely nothing about crime. Do you really think that some well to do guy is out there distributing all these bootlegs? I submit my earlier example.

Originally posted by Lillydale
The guy my sister used to get her bootleg VHS tapes from back in the late '80s was also a meth dealer at the time and is not in prison for murder. Want to give that guy your ten bucks?

Well, he was not just a bootlegger, now was he? Sounds like he was a murderer, which kinda trumps the bootlegging. Do you know the background of the owner of EVERY business you give ten bucks to? No need to answer that, i know you don't.

I like the fact that she can't figure out the moral and ethical difference between a property crime and heinous oppressive criminal felony.