NASA's Apollo DSE "Black Box" Transcripts - revealing the unscripted truth about the Moon & E.T.

reply to post by Luppakorva


I don't really remember, but I think it was Apollo missions photos.

Maybe zorgon remembers what it was.

PS: I haven't forgot to look for those photos that show the disturbed ground with a darker colour.

reply to post by mcrom901


"suprise suprise".

Naturally there's no reason to store tapes which describe and witness alots of ufo encounters. Just plain boring tapes which can be forgotten into someone's garage or to be used again.. That's what NASA states, right?

These dump tape cases really show that NASA lies, and if they do tell one lie, they have opened the pandora's box. Can't trust anything they say after that anymore.

Originally posted by ArMaP
reply to post by Luppakorva

 

PS: I haven't forgot to look for those photos that show the disturbed ground with a darker colour.

Oh you mean those LRO pics from the landing site I was looking into ?

Originally posted by ArMaP
Maybe zorgon remembers what it was.

yes he does...

It was the collection of Apollo images in full high res tiff format with 50meg file sizes.

I have never found where they moved them though the ISS and other spacecraft images are still in that directory... only the Apollo ones were moved. It was the last time I linked a direct link directory without saving all first.

Good thing I have several terabytes of storage

Originally posted by Luppakorva
And please don't take this so that I'm saying I don't believe and that I'm debunkin and ignoring there is something on the moon and out there, I think there is

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So just what are you saying? You seem to talk from both sides of the fence and try to balance on top of it all at the same time

reply to post by zorgon


If I see something I do not think is an ufo, artificial anomaly or so, I will say I don't think it is. If I see something what I think is artificial anomaly, ufo or so, I do say that I think it is.

Just that I say I'm sorry I don't think that's anything at all, doesn't mean I want to deny the whole existence of anomalies on the moon. I'm just honest with what I think about that picture / message, proof etc... I don't see this as a black or white situation "either you are with us or you are against us" thing. I see this as trying to really find out what is going on and to give my honest opinion while doing so.

I know I'm new here and I guess you guys have been talking about this topic for years and you know each others pretty well who is against and who is not. Myself ..I'm just looking into it, did not pick any side either from "black or white" and I want to find out what really is going on.

Hope that makes some sense?

reply to post by Luppakorva

Please explain how the claim that the DSE tapes are lost shows that NASA lies.

It would be nice to find out first where the claim originates (I can't find anything from NASA saying they are missing or lost, maybe you can have better luck). It would also be nice to know how, if the tapes actually are missing, the complete audio set from Apollo 11 is available online.

Doesn't the fact that LunaCognita has lied in this video mean you can trust nothing else he says?

[edit on 10/7/2009 by Phage]

reply to post by Phage


Have to say I did not check the facts for the Gemini tapes I was asking about them a bit earlier and that's the response what I got. Indeed Apollo 11 tapes can be found, listened quite a few of those through myself.

I did read while back though that some of those other ones are lost, I will take a look and come back with those news when and if I find them.

Edit:
I guess you added your comment about LunaCognita afterwards.

I'm not familiar with that he lies though?

[edit on 7-10-2009 by Luppakorva]

reply to post by Luppakorva

You can find the specifics about LC's claims in my posts earlier in this thread.

Doesn't the fact that LunaCognita has lied in this video mean you can trust nothing else he says?

Doesn't the fact that Phage has lied in this thread on page 5 mean you can trust nothing else he says?




UFO on the Moon ?




[edit on 7-10-2009 by easynow]

Originally posted by easynow

Doesn't the fact that Phage has lied in this thread on page 5 mean you can trust nothing else he says?

I think there's a big difference between an honest mistake and willful prevarication. Unless you have a whole lot of material evidence to back it up, I wouldn't accuse another member of lying. Not even with an included smilie.

reply to post by easynow


What the heck is wrong with that video???


....of course, a piece of material that is being shot across the frame as a result of the launch of the LM as they finished their mission, and wished to go back up to orbit and rendezvous with the CM, so they could get home.... Moon....alien world...not conducive to Human habitation...

A piece of DEBRIS in a video of the LM ascent Module leaving the surface....AGAIN, please explain how THAT is a 'UFO'. I will help:

OK....let's re-construct:

'U' = 'Unidentified'

OK...it IS an undentified piece of something, again likely a small piece of debris from the LM, most likely the DESCENT STAGE....

'F' = 'Flying'

Well...'flying' denotes a certain intent of intentional control, does it not? A 'thing' flying across the screen, DURING A LAUNCH OF A SPACE VEHICLE is....well...a thing "flying" across the screen!!!

I can throw any object, and then describe it as "flying"...although I would be incorrect, in a very specific sense. "FLYING" infers some sort of 'control'.....

'O' = 'Object'

Uh huh. ANY 'object' is already understood, if captured on film. Please see above comments....

SO....your attempt to somehow "get" another ATS member??? FAIL!!!!!

Sorry, dude.

[edit on 7 October 2009 by weedwhacker]

Originally posted by yeahright

Originally posted by easynow

Doesn't the fact that Phage has lied in this thread on page 5 mean you can trust nothing else he says?

I think there's a big difference between an honest mistake and willful prevarication. Unless you have a whole lot of material evidence to back it up, I wouldn't accuse another member of lying. Not even with an included smilie.

was it a mistake ?

i think that's debatable

and your right nobody should accuse anyone of lying without a whole lot of evidence to back it up and that is something Phage is doing accusing LunaCognita of lying about the tapes being lost and he has not shown any evidence let alone alot of evidence that they still exist.

we are not talking about the digital copies , we are talking about the original tapes from the recorder.





[edit on 7-10-2009 by easynow]

reply to post by easynow


Funny....how the very intent of a thread devolves....

Reminder:

"NASA's Apollo DSE "Black Box" Transcripts......"


Key word there??? "TRANSCRIPTS"!!!!!

NOT tapes, not "missing tapes"....TRANSCRIPTS. Nice to stay on topic....

Phage is doing accusing LunaCognita of lying about the tapes being lost and he has not shown any evidence let alone alot of evidence that they still exist.

"lunacognita" has been shown to be less than honest....and this thread is a prime example.

Trying to deflect an intent is ALSO a bit dishonest...but, unfortunately, not unusual on ATS.......

reply to post by weedwhacker


LunaCognita is a member here at ATS as well and just like yearight said.....

Unless you have a whole lot of material evidence to back it up, I wouldn't accuse another member

so i say prove the tapes are not missing before making accusations and what if it was just an honest mistake ? and Phage is calling him a liar ?


yearight also said this...

I think there's a big difference between an honest mistake and willful prevarication

why is LunaCognita being denied the same thing ?

reply to post by easynow

The difference is that I admitted my mistake when you pointed it out.

As I said previously, if LC provides evidence that NASA claims the tapes are lost, I will retract my statement regarding that. Perhaps if he were to admit his misquotes and taken out of context statements from First Man were mistakes and edit them out of his video, I would accept that.

[edit on 10/7/2009 by Phage]

Originally posted by weedwhacker Nice to stay on topic....

You spout the words... but your posts attacking other members belies your sincerity. As easynow pointed out LC IS a member here... please keep your personal assessments out of it and stay on topic as you were so quick to point out

Thanks

I also find it disheartening that Phage called LC a liar... I have come to expect better from him

[edit on 7-10-2009 by zorgon]

reply to post by Phage

As I said previously, if LC provides evidence that NASA claims the tapes are lost, I will retract my statement regarding that.

did you see what yearight just said ?

Unless you have a whole lot of material evidence to back it up, I wouldn't accuse another member

YOU are making accusations about another member lying WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE to back up your accusation.


the bottom line here is....

YOU need to stop with the accusations .......unless YOU can prove he is lying and that is something YOU have not done !







[edit on 7-10-2009 by easynow]

enough derailing...... c'mon lets see what you have to say about the transcripts.... both the dse from apollo and the vtr from gemini....

reply to post by easynow

He made the claim. I'm asking for evidence to support his claim.
Don't try turning it around.