Someone Help Please!!

Originally posted by calihan_12
alright well heres what i can tell you.

everyone in my family has been abducted. all happened when we were very little.

in my brother nick's teenage years, he would see balls of reddish/orangish light floating around outside, or in his room. he was also seeing shadow people randomly at that time. once i even heard a demonic noise coming from his room, and me and him ran out of the house because we were so freaked out

i cant tell you what it could be. but heres what i can tell you. we were all abducted.. and the house that, that stuff happened at was also haunted.

it could be either of the two, or some sort of shizophrenic episode. simply because ive experienced similar things.. im not going to say that your schizo. i dont think thats whats going on. there is something deeper to this issue it sounds like.

There was one very weird thing that happened to me before all of this started.

I was sleeping. My dreams i usually have "lucidity" where i can control my actions. It feels very real and i can change the course of the dream(s).

Well, one dream was so awkward i have no idea how to describe it. Before i begin let me say i have never seen donne darko before i had this dream:

I have a dream and it feels really dark. I think i was in outer space or something but i dont know it was all black with little white specs here and there. I was talking so someone who claimed he was in another dimension.

He asked me if i wanted to come over with him. At first i was hesitant but then he said it would be fun. So i complied.

I felt very strange. It felt as if i was in a microwave. What i saw can only be described as these blue lines streaking across just like in the movie donne darko. The only difference was it was on a black background instead of white. But the lines/squares where just like in the movie.

I started feeling very #ty so i told him i dont feel good and i dont wanna do it. I then woke up.

About a year later i saw the movie donne darko, and when i saw those blue lines(the part where they go through the "portal" or whatever) i was in shock.

Originally posted by Aeons
And why isn't your house condemned with all the cracked walls?

Are you cracking the drywall? Plaster? Are you sure you haven't effected the beams? How about the outer walls? Have you torn the vapour barrier? How about cracked the foundation?

Why on Earth would you decide to wreck your poor parents' house? I mean, you are callously destroying their primary investment. Or making it likely they will have their pants sued off by a landlord. They aren't concerned about you destroying their retirement with your experimentation in your mental prowress?

i dont understand what you're trying to say here?

I can tell you for certain that you arent that funny though.

Why the name demonseed?
Not something I would label myself as.
You think its true?

Not mental illness, you sure, have you seen a professional?
I think you should.

Peace to you.

Have you noticed any unusual odors lately?

Second line.

Why do you think your father would cry? Sounds to me like he knows something, maybe talk to him and tell him for the love of pete, please tell me...

Are you physically damaging the walls in your home? I mean can you take a picture of a crack that you caused? And you say when you are angry, this happens? Thats kind of like that movie, Firestarter, the girl would get angry and start fires with her mind.

When did all this start, when you were younger, or recently?

Maybe now would be a good time to start writing down all the "odd" events you remember in your life, and they may all add up to something..clues, if you will.

Originally posted by praxis

Originally posted by demonseed

I always like to re-produce my effects.

I'm willing to keep my mind open to phenomena I don't understand. But ...... abnormal claims require strict proof unless we are talking 'ghost stories' that are only intended to entertain.

So, for a start ..... where's your video?

The crowd on here never ceases to amaze sometimes....to this person, obviously dstraught, came on here asking for help. regardless of what is happening, the person is reaching out and asking for help, and all you can say is "where's your video"?

Compassion people. It's a very good thing.

i am highly skeptical when it comes to anything like this.
This could be a medical condition, it could be real or you could just be a liar.

Before this goes any further i think you should follow the first rule of the internet.

Pics or it didn't happen

Hallo..

I would like to inquire if you are interested in the occult? Do you keep any books around you of the esoteric dark arts?

Have you ever thought that you are not exactly alone? In other words, do you believe in spirits? Is it you in the mirror?

I might be waaaaay off base here... but assuming there are not any neurological issues and you are not on medication(s), and you are not just full of crap .. no offence intended.. well that leaves aliens and demons..

Well.. Regards, RDDS

To anyone skeptical or wants to know exactly whats going on please check this out:

www.youtube.com...

Make sure to listen to the second half where i filter out the background noise. Those are the voices im hearing when i start concentrating.

So is it aliens? What kind of aliens are these? WHy are they channeling through me?

How did this happen?

Im very confused. Worst of all, im confused why my parents wont tell me. It feels like one big secret thats hidden from me.

Everytime i start concentrating the helicopters start coming. Its either a small 3 passenger white plane or this helicopter that makes a distinct industrial sound. One time i ahd one of these flying right on top of my house for 30 minutes straight while i was concentrating .

Who are they? Government? Police? MIB?

Am i an alien? Are they aliens trying to use me to summon them and take over the world?

Im so confused....

Your Video is wicked real. Those are Demons, or Dark Earthbound entities trying to mess with you. I have heard them- many times before. What you are dealing with is not Alien- it is spiritual.

Sounds to me like you may have been playing with fire...Have you ever done a pact with the Devil or ever promised him or a demon anything, or done any demonic magic?

I am a demonologist, and a very classic trick that demons use is wall tricks. Cracks in the walls, Blood on the walls, Walls crumbling down etc.

My husband, for example, used to have similiar experiences. He would wake up and be in this alternate reality, in his bed- in his bedroom, and demons were there and dancing and twirling round and round him- and then the walls would start to physically tumble to the ground. This was a real experience. And then after a few moments it passed and everything was turned back to normal. This is because certain Demons possess the ability to change matter and manipulate it in and out of dimensions.

The wall cracking- are you consiously doing it or are you watching it happen?

Depending on whats going on, You may seriously be in need of working with a good paranormal team that can help you.

The name calling, that is likely a manifestation of earthbounds or demons #ing with you.

The helicopter- it can be a manifestation from them. Seriously have no idea what the Helicopter could be.

Let me know if I can help in any way with a U2U

Good Luck

[edit on 25-9-2009 by xynephadyn]
PS

I wanted to add about your father-- it is likely that he too has experienced what your talking about, and is terrified by it. His way of dealing with it, is not talking about it with you- because he doesent understand it. It doesent neccesarily mean that he is keeping a dark secret from you. But if you can corner him into telling you why he is so weird about it- and tell him that he is terrifying you with his silence- youll likely guilt him into him telling you what you need to hear!

[edit on 25-9-2009 by xynephadyn]

If you stop your audio right at the 2:45 mark, you can here someone talking in a very creepy voice. I can make out the first words..."Who is ........"


Also, I heard what sounds like a heartbeat.

Maybe if there is some way to clean it up you can find out what it's saying.

It gave me the chills! I hope you figure out what it is.




[edit on 25-9-2009 by virraszto]

reply to post by demonseed


If you're hearing "voices" and there's helicopters flying over you, and they've also got to your family.. then that's more along the lines of the "MIB" and "Aliens" than any of the other stuff you listed.

That is without a doubt the most convincing audio I have ever heard.

I'd like to know-is the house you live in the same one you have been in all your life? how long has your dad been there.

I'm in agreement with the poster who said that your dad probably has or still does experience the same thing-and is terrified, either of it directly, or of the fact that you have to go through it as well.

You MUST create open and honest dialogue with him about this. Two people trying to combat this will be much more powerful than one.

reply to post by demonseed


"Every night there is this helicopter flying by my house looking at it with its searchlight.

One time, i woke up to the sound of these hellish demons all around me. I got angry/scared and the walls started cracking like crazy at an insane pace. Then i felt the helicopter shoot some kind of frequency at me, making this really intense sound and causing me to pass out for a few seconds. As i was passed out i could still hear the helicopters slowly fading away. "

I have a suggestion for you, especially if you can "hear" or "feel" helicopters shooting frequencies at you. Try making some "orgonite" which is a combination of metal shavings/dust (dust is more effective), crystals(quartz), and fibreglass resin. In principle it acts as sort of a capacitor for lifeforce energies, chi, prana whatever you want to call it and essentially you "program" the quartz with your intent, think about harmonious things when you are in the process of making it. You can buy them premade but it is also really easy and cheaper to make by yourself.

Think about what quartz is for just a second. Silicon Dioxide. Oxygen is essential to life and silicon transfers/stores information. Ancient cultures often attributed quartz to being the "brain cells of the Earth". Also the resin compresses when it cures enabling the piezoelectric properties of quartz to kind of "charge" the orgonite mix making it vibrate.

If you need to learn more check out the story behind Dr. Wilhelm Reich and his orgone devices. Sounds very new-agey and hokey but ever since I've been making them I have slept better and the frequencies that I also "hear" have faded away. There are apparently many other benefits to making these devices that could be of some use to you if "demons" chase you in your dreams.

Even more curious to know if you live near a lot of cellular towers.

I hope this can be of some help.

Thank you very much for the responses. It seems everyone here is about as confused as i am, but that may not be a bad thing.

The helicopter is not demonic. It is real. I was wide awake when i heard it flying overhead. I really have no idea what these demons are.

Everytime i start falling asleep i start hearing the voices and seeing weird things. Last night i drove in my car up to a hill and fell asleep for about an hour, away from my house.

I felt alot better. Within that hour i felt as if i got more sleep than i did the past 10 years. It was almost euphoric. I heard a helicopter, but it didnt notice me at all.

Unfortunately, im now very scared. I feel like my house is possessed and everyones out to get me. Suck me dry of my life.

As for cell phone towers...

Theres definately these orange lights scattered across the mountainside. Im guessing its a cell phone tower.

When i started walking back towards my house i felt sick again. I was feeling great up on the hill in my car but immediately felt sick once i got home.

I hear these beeps going off periodically in my neighborhood.

I feel as if everyone around me knows about it, and they are hiding it.

If you ever saw the episode of Futurama, where the brains come to mind control the planet and Fry is immune to their brain control but doesnt know that everyone else is under the mind control. Well anyway, thats what my life feels like right now.

What makes me happy is that everybody here is very open and honest. THat means im not alone.

Youtube tends to screw up audio pretty bad. Im gonna look for the .wav file and upload it on megaupload so you guys can hear it in better quality. Ill try to figure out what hes saying.


As for me "tempting" demons. Well, i started having lucid dreams a very long time ago. It got really intense/fun. THats when i had that whole guy asking me if i wanted to go into another dimension thing.

After all this, i started meditating. I thought i was tapping into some kind of secret energy, so i kept pursuing it. Well, then the # hit the fan, and all of this started happening.

Im getting very good at feeling the energy around me. I thought i was some kind of demon or had demonic powers. But last night made me re-think. In my car i was tapping into the same energy, and no cracks or demons or voices came. I just felt euphoria.

Im beginning to think that maybe these demons are put there to scare me into not tapping into this energy.

Maybe the whole MIB/Aliens thing is right, i really dont know. What scares me worse is my parents are in on it.

The only thing im gonna do is run and tap into the energy every night until i can get to the bottom of this.



[edit on 25-9-2009 by demonseed]

Originally posted by virraszto
If you stop your audio right at the 2:45 mark, you can here someone talking in a very creepy voice. I can make out the first words..."Who is ........"


Also, I heard what sounds like a heartbeat.

Maybe if there is some way to clean it up you can find out what it's saying.

It gave me the chills! I hope you figure out what it is.




[edit on 25-9-2009 by virraszto]

OMG...

Thats awesome that you found that.

I just re-downloaded the mp4 off of youtube. I cant believe you heard a voice there i would have never noticed it.

To me it sounds like...

"Who.... is..... that?"

And it starts running away.


Heres the original quality MP4:

www.megaupload.com...





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[edit on 25-9-2009 by demonseed]

[edit on 25-9-2009 by demonseed]

I will check it out tomorrow...during the daytime. Too creepy to listen to at night. Maybe someone else can take a listen and figure out what it's saying.

I don't know what's going on, but that is a freaky audio. I did hear the "voice" if that's what it was, though I wish I hadn't read what was thought to be said before I listened... I don't know if I heard it because I read it first, or not.

Hope you figure things out, sounds like a scary time for you.



[edit on 25-9-2009 by LadySkadi]

I think there are more than 3 words to what it's saying. It does trail off a bit at the end. I wish someone who could clean that voice up a bit would read this thread and see what they can do to bring out the voice better. I don't know how to, or I would.

Soooo...

This may sound unsympathetic, but please read my whole post.

Let me get this straight. You're a psychology student. You understand mental illness and seem to be suffering from both visual and audible hallucinations but claim that it is not mental illness.

You believe a helicopter is following you and is somehow causing you to experience these strange events. Sounds like paranoia to me.

But assuming its not mental illness:


You managed to record through your headphones whilst you slept, so i'm assuming you started recording before you went to sleep.

Yet we only have a few minutes of audio?

To be honest, recording with an earphone piece will pick up a LOT of distortion the frequencies will not be represented properly as transduction through an ear piece is supposed to be done in reverse.

You obviously know how to filter out various frequencies too.

So... Am i right in saying this is selected and manipulated audio, badly recorded and proves absolutely nothing?

The reason why i'm skeptical is:

You obviously went to sleep, so i'm assuming you've been asleep for at least say four to five hours, maybe six to eight hours, and yet you only have a few minutes of audio. What happened to the rest of it? Did you willingly snip the rest and only showed us the interesting parts?

Have you not considered you may be suffering from hypnogogic delusions or sleep apnea (aka sleep paralysis - characterised by vivid hallucinations, strange sounds and disturbing feelings?) I only ask because i suffer from this too...

Your stress may be excasserbating the other delusions, the feelings of being watched by helicopters and the conspirital and paranoid feelings of neighbours somehow knowing something you don't.

You mention cell phone towers. Have you ever heard of the VLF theory? Very low frequencies can create feelings of discord, uncomfortable feelings and in some cases can make people feel like they are being watched.

Because these frequencies are below the human range of hearing 20hz-20khz, it creates feelings of unease and the brain starts to 'fill in the blanks'

www.ghostgadgets.com...

It's the audio equivelant of Gestalt psychology (you're a psychology student - so i'm assuming you know what this is) - but for those not in the know, the low frequencies emitted in some areas can create bizarre effects on the human mind, leaving the over-active imagination to 'create' things.

en.wikipedia.org...

Sounds to me like you've recorded yourself having a lucid nightmare / sleep paralysis experience. With the badly recorded audio you've picked up 'artifacts' of sound and translated them yourself. The feelings of unease could very well be put down to VLF and the stress makes you feel worse because you don't sleep very well.

You mention sleeping better when you're away from the house. This makes perfect sense.

Maybe your house is wired up incorrectly, causing your brain to pick up strange signals? But when you're in the country you're not experiencing that static overload.

The only thing i can't explain is the 'cracks on the walls'.... You didn't explain much about them. Do they appear when you sleep, or when you're awake. Without proof there's nothing i can really say.

Have think about what i've said....

If it is sleep paralysis, then i can sympathise , because i too have had some VERY scary hallucinations from my condition.

Oh and maybe your Dad is worried about you, but maybe there's a communication problem? Do you have a good relationship? Can you talk easily with him.... or is it difficult?

Hope you're well.