Maximum Alert: U.S. Troops Now Occupying America

I've gotta say that most of this recent aircraft activity, especially on the East Coast and in the mid-Atlantic region probably has everything to do with the sheer amount of international leaders and dignitaries coming here for the meetings at the U.N. and for the G20 meetings in Pittsburgh. Next week, all of that activity will probably die off as quickly as it started.

Had a black unmarked military style helicopter with open doors and manned machine guns fly over our house this weekend. The nose of the craft looked like it had an anti tank cannon attached. This thing slowly crossed the ski at no more than 200ft. How much of this BS are we supposed to put up with?

Location; Tehachapi, CA

[edit on 23-9-2009 by Vernshot]

All of this speculation about what type of tank was seen where is off point. The point should be, that against the rule of law, the US Government is placing US Military troops on the streets of America to police and enforce the law. This cannot be allowed to happen. The rule of law must extend to all...no exceptions or it has been rendered impotent.

The founding fathers understood very well the potential for abuse of power if the military was allowed to engage in these policing duties. Given that the military industrial complex has so much power (that they were never meant to have), does anyone trust that they will do their job with the utmost regard for the civilian population? Individuals may, but the system as a whole is rotten to the core as we all should know.

I stress in the strongest possible terms, that something needs to be done immediately about this rise of a fascist military state that is slowly being assembled in the US today. If nothing is done, you may wake up one morning and find yourself living in a Nazi style western nightmare.

I have seen absolutely zero proof of this claim and anyone taking their news or facts from Prison Planet's website needs to really examine the source.

It is indiciative of this website to incite people to fear and act based upon that fear.

Acting upon fear will only get you dead, act instead upon intelligent thought only, that will save your life.

I put zero trust in anything I cannot witness with my own two eyes.

I will take no action until action is necessary to be taken in any way whatsoever.

This means I will wait until the appropriate time to act.

Discipline, time, tactics, being prepared, these are all my friends, fear is not among the list of my friends for it only serves to betray you when you need a level head most.

Situation dictates tactics, tactics dictates outcome, outcome dictates survival.

Each and every person will act in what way they deem fit.

[edit on 23-9-2009 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

Originally posted by DjSharperimage
Theyre getting ready for Martial Law;
The false flag attack is the Swine Flu virus

I know they have at least 2 missiles filled with Swine Flu virus

That's a bold statement. Do you have inside information that you'd be willing to share with us?

If they are National Guard, then Posse Comitatus only applies if they are Federalized, if I'm not mistaken.

If they are under STATE orders then they should legally be allowed to do whatever, depending on provisions of the State's constitution.

If they are Kentucky NG operating in KY under orders of the KY governor, then they are subject to whatever provisions of the KY state constitution apply to them. It may not be illegal in KY for NG to engage in these type activities.

Not saying that it's cool, but it may be technically legal.

Now if KY national guard was federalized and sent to another state, to engage in these type activities, then Posse Comitatus would apply because then they are United States Army, not KY national guard.

Case in point there would be the Katrina boondoggle with confiscating weapons and such.

Just to clarify my mess here, If they are under orders from the POTUS, then this would be illegal. If they are under orders from KY governor, then this may or may not be legal under KY's constitution, I personally am not familiar with it.

[edit on 23-9-2009 by hotrodturbo7]

some of what I have to say, I believe has already been posted on this thread but here it is:

After reading through this thread I just want to clarify some things:

1. Posse comitatus is NOT an Article of the Constitution - NOT an article of the constitution. It was passed after reconstruction and the civil war.
2. The National Guard MAY be deployed on the soil of the state that national guard troop is from. So, NY national guard may only be deployed for police actions or executing the law in NY. Same with Arkansas, Alaska, New Jersey, etc.

I believe Bush signed into law the power of one state's national guard to be deployed in another state. I forget off the top of my head and must look into it.

Here's a link explaining Posse Comitatus:

www.wordinfo.info...


Now, that being said, I believe we are in the #. However, people need to keep a level head. First off, 99% of the predictions I see posted here on ATS and other sites never come to pass. Or, the pass in a far more mild way. Most probably because they want to cook us slowly and not alarm the public at large.

Originally posted by hotrodturbo7
If they are National Guard, then Posse Comitatus only applies if they are Federalized, if I'm not mistaken.

If they are under STATE orders then they should legally be allowed to do whatever, depending on provisions of the State's constitution.

If they are Kentucky NG operating in KY under orders of the KY governor, then they are subject to whatever provisions of the KY state constitution apply to them. It may not be illegal in KY for NG to engage in these type activities.

Not saying that it's cool, but it may be technically legal.

Now if KY national guard was federalized and sent to another state, to engage in these type activities, then Posse Comitatus would apply because then they are United States Army, not KY national guard.

Case in point there would be the Katrina boondoggle with confiscating weapons and such.

Just to clarify my mess here, If they are under orders from the POTUS, then this would be illegal. If they are under orders from KY governor, then this may or may not be legal under KY's constitution, I personally am not familiar with it.

[edit on 23-9-2009 by hotrodturbo7]

Hotrodturbo,
I believe you are entirely correct.

Originally posted by DjSharperimage
Theyre getting ready for Martial Law;
The false flag attack is the Swine Flu virus

I know they have at least 2 missiles filled with Swine Flu virus

How do you "know" this?

And what good would a missile filled with virus do? Any human flu virus is incredibly effective passed person-to-person. A missile is kind of overkill if you ask me... and probably quite inefficient. Plus, only two? Why such a low number?

You know what people say when most of our troops are out of the country. People claim that the govt is setting us up for occupation by foreign forces, UN, Mexico, Russia, Chinese, ive heard them all.

Now that we are bringing more troops back to the country, people claim that is is for the preparations of martial law and quarantines.
Is there no scenario that satisfies everyone at the same time?
I doubt it.

Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
I have seen absolutely zero proof of this claim and anyone taking their news or facts from Prison Planet's website needs to really examine the source.

It is indiciative of this website to incite people to fear and act based upon that fear.

Acting upon fear will only get you dead, act instead upon intelligent thought only, that will save your life.

I put zero trust in anything I cannot witness with my own two eyes.

I will take no action until action is necessary to be taken in any way whatsoever.

This means I will wait until the appropriate time to act.

Discipline, time, tactics, being prepared, these are all my friends, fear is not among the list of my friends for it only serves to betray you when you need a level head most.

Situation dictates tactics, tactics dictates outcome, outcome dictates survival.

Each and every person will act in what way they deem fit.

[edit on 23-9-2009 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

Spartanking,
I think you're offering everyone the best advice. How many times has Prison Planet said that this was "it"? I have no way to truly verify what they've reported.

reply to post by Rockstar1102

Thanks for the info Rockstar.
Geesh, I know I sound paranoid, but how bad is it when they are out to get you?

reply to post by lpowell0627


Funny you bring that up...

Most of my family resides right over the Geo Wash bring in NJ and they've been saying they've seen increased air traffic military wise. This worries the heck out of me obviously as I have a great friend up in Clinton (i believe that's out west NJ) whose mentioned the same type of traffic.

Let's hope they're being extra cautious and really are just there for a "NYC "in case" scenario".

Stay safe

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Well at this stage in the game it's best to be informed about all activity. I think that's what really sets us apart from sheeple, our vigilance and eye for seeing things that others miss.

I'm constantly keeping an eye on PHL and N.NJ so anything I hear about either, I'll update and post asap. The only thing worse than the military in PHL would be McNabb's ribs healing slower

I live in Panama City Beach which is next to Panama City and the Tyndall airforce base. Every day I hear and see loud and low flying jets, sometimes the F22 raptor and other fighter jets. I've had these fly low enough to shake my house, and quite truthfully, hurt my ears. These are annoying to say the least, but dont worry me much for they cannot deploy infantry or interact with anything on the ground without causing a huge scene.
However I also see, multiple times a day, Apache helicopters, which are easily identifiable with the large turret on the bottom and a slender body. These would be ideal in citizen control as they can drop troops and attack from the air. These helicopters have me quite concerned as their frequency of fly-bys are increasing as the days go on. This town is quite desensitized to military activity and the majority of the people are as close to sheep as it gets.
They haven't yet deployed any military personal as of yet but I figure if it does happen it will happen here. I also think to myself, if they deploy US troops as an addition to LEO how far would these soldiers be willing to go to serve their masters. As US citizens themselves they have family and friends that live here and they could be quite empathetic to our cause, and if ordered to commit atrocities, such as quarantine, forced injections, or even to kill, how many of our own people will follow orders. On one hand you have the soldiers that will obey any order given to them, and on the other you have the people aspect. These soldiers are people too and if oppressed by their masters the natural human survival instinct kicks in.
So the real question is, how many obediant slaves are willing to do harm to their own people.

I've not seen a single troop in months. The most I've seen is: a military NBC exercise downtown a month and a half back or so. And once a military chopper over my neighborhood, and then 3 military choppers a couple weeks after (about a week ago). That is a tad abnormal, but there are a few airports around.

But I've not seen one case of MPs "helping" police, nor an increase in troop activity or anything else. Seems like more sensationalist rubbish. You'd see this everywhere, if there were any truth to it.

My knowledge of American Military Personnel comes from watching movies, youtube and news reports, and from what I can make out they all appear to be super proud to be American. Totally patriotic.

Thats fine, but can anyone really see these same guys shooting, or even harming, Americans in America.

Would that not be an impossible situation for them ?

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Hi Whitewave, in response to your post about the tank, here in Tulsa, I see service people almost everyday in fatigues --- in the fast food places I go for lunch, in Quik Trip, just anywhere and everywhere and I have lived here all my life and can count the times on one hand that I saw service personnel in fatigues in Tulsa, prior to recently. Something is definitely going on.

Originally posted by Bombeni
reply to post by whitewave

 

Hi Whitewave, in response to your post about the tank, here in Tulsa, I see service people almost everyday in fatigues --- in the fast food places I go for lunch, in Quik Trip, just anywhere and everywhere and I have lived here all my life and can count the times on one hand that I saw service personnel in fatigues in Tulsa, prior to recently. Something is definitely going on.

Bombeni,

Ask them! If it is new in your area, then you can probably get a good, genuine response! Our service personnel are not the enemy! At some point, they may be given an order that they will have to refuse, but for now, they are just good-hearted patriots. So, ask one why they are in the area all of a sudden!

I live about 15 miles from a navy base and never heard (or saw) any helicopters in the past with the exception of the the one that is for hospital use.

Recently, I'd say within the last few months, there has been a lot more helicopter activity that is military, and I saw a black helicopter fly over my house last week.

And I also saw this bizarre activity the last few nights:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Things are really weird right now.