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Originally posted by Affirmative Reaction
And we don't call what the President says rhetoric. We call it the truth, because that's what it is.
Originally posted by Pisky
You may well call it truth Affirmative Reaction, and that is your right. Personally I find it difficult to believe a single word that comes out of his mouth. And before you berate me for this, I didn't think much of Clinton either.
As for the military aspect, within every organisation we have the bad apples. Those who performed the abuse of the Iraqui prisoners are, indeed, not representative of the majority of the military. Unfortunately we do have certain people with the mindset of neanderthals who insist on damaging the reputation of genuine people in the military, in civilian life and even on the internet.
My opinion is well known. If the so-called leaders of the US and UK want to send people out to fight and possibly to die, then lets see them showing a good example. Get trained and get out there. Show some leadership instead of cowering inside the White House and Downing Street playing war.
Originally posted by Affirmative Reaction
But come on now, the last statement, about our leaders getting out there in the pits, that's a bit much for anyone to swallow. There is and always has been a chain of command, and to expect the PM or President to go out and fight is, well, that's a bit out there, even for you!!!
Originally posted by Pisky
Maybe I am stuck in the mediaeval mindset, but I believe that the current Adminstrations of both the US and UK lack honour.
I stand with what I said before - they should get trained and get out there. Experience what they are expecting others to experience. See the fighting at first hand. Maybe then they wouldn't be so fast at declaring war on a country. Now, bin Laden is another story altogether. Where is he ? - why hasn't he been caught ? - because the military might that could have been sent after him and al qaeda have been embroiled in an urban war that could take years to end. While the US/UK forces are stuck in Iraq, bin Laden and his merry mullah's are decapitating people and more likely planning another bout of terrorism.
Originally posted by Affirmative Reaction
I agree, you are stuck in the medieval mindset.
Originally posted by Affirmative Reaction
Get trained, and get out there yourself....
Originally posted by Pisky
I will - just as soon as Bush & Blair do the same. But I daresay I'll be waiting for quite a while.
Originally posted by ashley
He is a coward who hides in caves in the mountain while others die at his bidding. HE has no honor.
You do remember that little photo of the U.S. president hiding in an airplane during 9-11 dont you.
Then selling copies of it.
The rest of his staff building bunkers.
Originally posted by Affirmative Reaction
Well, you seem to talk a good game...why don't you set the example?
Originally posted by ashley
Dont give me the secret service line, please. Kennedy stayed in the whitehouse during the cuban missile crisis.
If your thinking was true they would of whisked him out of that classroom so fast but they didnt. He was hiding in that plane, not following protocol.
Whats the '"old argument" you are talking about? Come up with something new, I was commenting on what you were trying to wrap your little brain around.
Thanks for deciding I am not worth anymore of your valuable time.
Maybe you should spend some time with people smarter than you, you might find out you spelled lobotomy wrong.
Originally posted by intrepid
You think that OBL doesn't have a political agenda? Look out then. The MId. East is a different place, they think in different ways, do things in a different manner. I would love to know how Muslims see him. That would add something to the equation. I also would like to go back 230 years and ask the average Brit what he thought of George Washington. Sorry, at the time women had no opinion.
Originally posted by intrepid
"And are you telling ME about the Middle East? sorry to burst your little bubble, but I've spent more time in more Middle Eastern countries than you know exist!
[Edited on 16-5-2004 by Affirmative Reaction]"
Well, maybe you should have done more listening, then you would know that things are different there. BTW, do you want those Eastern nations listed alphabetically.
Originally posted by intrepid
BTW, I tried to sign up when Desert Storm was happening, they had a problem with my age, too old, and my past, damn tests actually can test your liver.
Originally posted by Affirmative Reaction
Then you should make your post clearer. You said you didn't buy it as an excuse, as if it was going to be allowed. Sorry, but if you meant the same as I, then you need to learn to express yourself better...
Free flow of ideas? HAAAAAA!!! Give me a BREAK!!! The only thing you did was bash me for my reply to your little buddy. Give it a rest...
Well, I think you have proved to everyone here that you can't read, so go get mommy to read what Intrepid actually said to me...he said:
Now, if you want to keep floating your crappola down the river, you go right ahead, but it might be a little less embarrassing if you said something that was a little harder to prove as a total load of buffalo biscuits...
Originally posted by Affirmative Reaction
You don't, and you still didn't.
My reply to you was indeed laced with sarcasm, but it was in response to your shiity post to me, when I had never said one word to you. Let others stick up for themselves. Who are you, everybody's mother?
You showed me nothing but DISRESPECT. Therefore, you'll get nothing else in return. you don't get it both ways.
Of course you don't, because you agree with him. I replied with the same tone I got from him. He is very capable of speaking for himself. But don't try to disguise it with mock regard for someone else. Stand up and be counted as yourself instead of hiding behind another�s ideas.