Jedi religion founder accuses Tesco of discrimination over rules on hoods

Jedi religion founder accuses Tesco of discrimination over rules on hoods

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Daniel Jones says he was humiliated and victimised for his beliefs following incident at store in Wales.

Tesco has been accused of religious discrimination after the company ordered the founder of a Jedi religion to remove his hood or leave a branch of the supermarket in north Wales.

Daniel Jones, founder of the religion inspired by the Star Wars films, says he was humiliated and victimised for his beliefs following the incident at a Tesco store in Bangor.

The 23-year-old, who founded

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I know the story is a bit tongue in cheek - especially the Tesco comments on this. I also know that the Jedi religion is also a bit of a laugh, although I am sure a few take it really, really seriously.

I also know that "hoodies" are perceived as a problem as the item of clothing in question can hide identity and is often worn by "youngsters with attitude" (says I, an old fart)...

However, I doubt Tesco would pick on others wearing clothing that "hides" the wearer? Would they ask a monk to leave with full length hood? How about a Muslim woman all covered head-to-toe (expressing her freedom) or Lawrence of Arabia?

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meh, tesco are right, the jedi don't have to wear their hoods up at all times, you'ld think a guy who started a religion based on the movies would pay more attention to details.

funny thing is, tesco sell hoodies, hypocrites

You have to understand that in Britain anything Muslims want to wear or say is permitted. The Gov bends over backwards for them. We must conform to very strict rules on passport/ID photos, while they can wear burkhas meaning that only their eyes are photographed.

It is good that people are pushing back against the system, making a point however humorous about our rediculous double standards.

Wow....People are actually apart of that?? Who do they pray to....yoda?

reply to post by Maddogkull


That sounds like a great idea!
I could get tax free status here in the USA!
I can get the robes at Star Wars.com!
I think it would be legal.
Hmmm.....
There is a new game coming out.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic -
Many followers.
The question is: Would a Sith religion attack my church?

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Tesco are there to SERVE the people, not to tell them to conform to social norms. They are a customer based retail outlet and as such should be mindful of individuality.
Just another ploy by Tesco (who btw give 1/4 of their profits to the UK Government aswell as Tax increases) to brainwash the general public into conformism by destroying the culture of towns and villages, building over green-land sites and then shifting the population around with other stores using "price wars" as a means of population control methods.

reply to post by paraphi


Tsk tsk tsk. He didn't pay attention to his own religion. As Master Yoda said: "A Jedi must have the deepest commitment, the most serious mind." or "Beware of the dark side. Anger...fear...aggression. The dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight." or "You will know (the good from the bad) when you are calm, at peace. Passive." A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack.".

Getting your pants all in a twist over not being able to wear your hood is none of these things.

reply to post by Watcher-In-The-Shadows


Hahaha couldn't of put it better myself. What impression would the "church" have on britian if the leader is not even going by the guidelines

Originally posted by ROBL240
Tesco are there to SERVE the people, not to tell them to conform to social norms. They are a customer based retail outlet and as such should be mindful of individuality.
Just another ploy by Tesco (who btw give 1/4 of their profits to the UK Government aswell as Tax increases) to brainwash the general public into conformism by destroying the culture of towns and villages, building over green-land sites and then shifting the population around with other stores using "price wars" as a means of population control methods.

So... since the private company pays taxes to the gov't, they're a tool of the gov't?
Also, a 'private' company in the business of turning a profit is not permitted to restrict public appearances under the premise of employee security and loss-prevention? What if the store required everyone to wear a hood? That would be same thing, right? ... forced conformity? Well, at least to those who don't want to wear a hood it would be. Instead you want the company to conform to your ideas of how their company should behave... again forced conformity. Can't win.

But then, a government operated entity in the business of education (a.k.a. "schools") can restrict appearances for the purposes of conformity and perceived equality between the students? By that argument, students should be able to attend school nude if so desired, which in turn would make school pictures paedophilic and pornographic....

Sorry, but I don't agree with you here, not that it matters... just stating my opinion and pointing out other facets of the argument.

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Much less considering the fact this whole thing smells of a publicity stunt by a publicity chaser.

Hood down he should wear. Respect the customs a Jedi must.

Two line have I.

I sadly used to work at Tesco and Security always knows the trouble makers from the general area. even if there was theft from customers then staff are trained not to tackle the thief but to report the activity to the store manager or security. Customers coming in wearing Hoodies, Robes or anything else has no relevant effect to the store workers and is only a issue towards security who want to protect the stores overpriced stock from being stolen.

The same is said with Age Identification, the store intimidates said persons from buying certain products so as that the person in question will eventually succumb to buying an official government ID card (which costs 5 pounds currently until the new ID cards come in place with the biometric rubbish.) Again another ploy to push sales encouraging more money towards the Governments pockets. We was trained this from the first day we started.

reply to post by KSPigpen


Strong with the force are you.

Originally posted by Maddogkull
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Hahaha couldn't of put it better myself. What impression would the "church" have on britian if the leader is not even going by the guidelines

The force is with you Madogkull but you are not a Jedi yet!
Join me and we will rule the Galaxy together.
If you're not with me, then you are against me.

reply to post by Eurisko2012


Of the Dark Side you must be! I feel the conflict within you. Let go of your hate.

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reply to post by paraphi


paraphi, you have it right. Would this branch of Tesco ask a Muslim woman all covered head-to-toe to remove part of it and show her face. The answer NO because Tesco would be flamed within an inch of its corporate life, yet it is OK to ask someone who follows another faith to do the same.

Of course, a boycott of Tesco would be the right thing to do here and hurt them but too many of us only have a Tesco as the nearest major food supermarket.

And according to the 2001 UK census, 390,000 people put Jedi as their faith.

God says to young Jedi:
- I am your father
- Nooo!!!!

2nd line

What kind of person over 15 bases their beliefs on a Hollywood movie?

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No worst that beliving in the bible or the Koran, and you have insulted me because of my beliefs. It that within the T&Cs on ATS?