MEN: You are being chemically castrated.

Excellent work loam - as per usual. S&F

...Didn't see anything on Erectile Dysfunction, but I know ED has gone epidemic in the last 20-odd years. It's probably related. ...Any evidence?




OOps - should have read the whole thread before posting.




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I haven't read the entire thread, just the first page, so forgive me if someone has already mentioned this.

As I read the OP it occurred to me that the Georgia Guidestones figure into this somehow, with its talk of 500 million population and returning the earth to a sustainable ecosystem. Could the elite be using the very technology that has given us prosperity and long life to bring us all down? And then, at what cost? If this scenario plays out, what will really be left? 500 million infertile women? Oh to be the only man left!

Ummmm... just kidding about that last comment. Sort of....

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and from ReelView: "Didn't notice anything about Soy. Soy is in a ridiculous # of prepared food as well as having a life of it's own as tofu, vegeburgers, etc.. Soy is an established poison that raises estrogen levels. It is particularly bad for males. Is seems the goal is to create a passive slave population by one means or another. "

BULL!!!
My sons were raised on soy foods, as mostly vegetarian, and now in their teens and twenties, they are very masculine. They play or have played football and are great athletes. My twin boys were the main reason their high school football team went on to win the sectionals last football season and then lead the team to state finals, nearly winning for the entire state of MN! My other son is a boxer and teaches boxing! And then my other son is a weight-lifter, has been for many years!

A mostly plant-based diet, soy or not, is the only way to prevent from developing cancer and heart disease! If there is any estrogen-producing substances in our diet, eating a plant-based diet is the only way to lower the effects of these substances, since a plant-based diet is more water-based and doesn't store chemicals in our tissues as much as a animal-based diet.

MEN! Don't listen to the crap about plant-based diets, whether based on soy or not, as being bad for your masculinity! It's simply NOT true! If anything, a plant-based diet will make you stronger and MORE masculine! And further, it lower your risk of cancer and heart disease!!

That's why I eat a lot of Broccoli, it helps detox environmental estrogen. Last thing a guy needs is man boobs.

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This is me thanks to all chemicals that exist in the water system.

Two lines

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Hi! Xenoestrogens. Wikipedia.com. Estrogens released from weedkillers, insect killers (termite, roach, ant, wasp spray, etc.), shampos, soaps, handlotions, plastics. Don't microwave food in plastic ever. Try not to eat off plastic, food is stored in plastics, babies chew on plastic toys......
I have adenomyosis, so I try to avoid extra estrogen, it makes my problem flare up. I was on estrogen birth control pills for a while, it made me very sick quickly. I had headaches, swelling, itching, extra bleeding....
We need to stick to glass and ceramics here and be frugal with the fire ant killer. If someone could figure out how to eliminate the ants they would be super wealthy, the ants repoduce very rapidly.

Originally posted by silver tongue devil

Originally posted by Veritas Lux Mea
You can't possibly say that a more open society is the ONLY reason for this increase.

I think he was suggesting that there wasn't an increase to begin with.

I know very well what he was suggesting.

Obviously you missed MY point. My point is: Its NOT LIKELY at all that feminine men and/or homosexuality has always been THIS widespread, yet just pushed away into a closet for hundreds of years because of 'society'.

Men have NOT always been this feminine (heck, even 20 years ago there were more REAL MEN out in the world than now), and they have not always been this homosexual/bisexual either. (Yes, sexuality is linked here.)

You canNOT keep so many feminine, estrogen-driven men in the closet for hundreds of years. Its just not going to happen.

The fact is men are becoming more feminine, and it has little if anything to do with society. EVEN FOREST ANIMALS ARE SHOWING SIGNS of increasing feminine features! ** Or did you conveniently happen to miss that article too?

This is biological. Not societal. There is an increase in estrogen in our males, resulting in lower sperm count and masculinity. Whether you are too 'proud' too admit it or not.

- Mea

WOMEN CAN MAKE THEIR OWN SPERM

Perhaps this is nature's compensation for lack of sperm in males..

Maybe we WON'T go extinct afterall?

WOMEN MAY MAKE THEIR OWN SPERM

- Mea


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I've actually heard tell of this before, its apocalyptic in nature and brings to mind a future in which humans can no longer reproduce and yet we hardly ever hear of this.

This is just one more proof that we MUST take back the world from the PTB who are partially responsible for the widespread use of many of these chemicals. We need to institute both individual, corporate, and governmental responsibility for what sort of chemicals end up in our food, water, bodies...

Ever seen the movie Children of Men? It tells a simple tail of a world where humans can no longer reproduce and the world is slowly dying off and growing older... We have to heed the blaring warning sirens before that dystopian baby-less future becomes a reality...

Hi! I thought of something else. Everyone shout boycot bottles water, get
a stainless steel waterbottle. You can boil water right in them if a SHTF event occurs. These are reuseable, dishwasher safe, the don't leach estrogens, they don't polute the earth with curb side trash. Get a wide mouthed one so icecubes can fit in, don't get one with the plastic thermos
liner. I love mine! Plus they look great and are durable!

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There still seems to be some confusion concerning this thread, and in particular with respect to each of your specific comments about soy...

None of the material presented speaks to 'effeminate' behavior or 'gayness'. This thread is about PHYSICAL changes-- severely reduced sperm counts...deformed genitalia...increased incidence of 'feminized' biology, like breast tissue...etc...

The soy study-- even relatively small amounts of it-- shows soy reduces sperm counts. As far as I know, that wouldn't impact how masculine a man behaves or his ability to play football.

I'm actually somewhat surprised how confused or off topic some replies in this thread are... (Not singling either of you out, just making the general observation.)

I hope the focus stays on the main points of this thread...the nature...the scale...and the causation of this dangerous circumstance for humanity.



Thanks for everyone's interest and attention to this topic.


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Loam, you have the best threads, my friend.

The amphibian issue is particularly interesting because it is so easy to observe, and because of how simple it is for something in the water to significantly affect the life of an amphibian.

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I was just gonna say. This isn't affecting just males. We are having increasing incidences of early puberty. And I don't have a scientific basis for it, but it seems a lot of women are having fertility issues.

How can we not be affected by all the chemicals we dump into the environment. The cleaners and pharmaceuticals and byproducts and hormones. If people really considered all we dump into the env, it is staggering.

Just look at the cleaners in the home. We are exchanging clean for toxic poisoning.

I live by the mantra, if you can't drink it, you probably shouldn't be using it.

And there are few federal laws regulating what cleaners have to list. Many of the products are a toxicity 2, you should be required to wear safey equipment to use, then we clean out bathtub and have our children soak in it for awhile.

Not only that, but children have thinner skin, and absorb stuff through the skin much easier!

Do you knwo that combining sun screen and bug spray on a child makes a toxic combination?

Or mixing bleach with ammonia makes very toxic fumes?

How about the laundry chemicals alone. No one should even be touching fabric softener, yet we wear it on our skin for 24 hours a day.

They are some of the most toxic materials we use.

and they don't break down in the environment. They are continually being recycled through the water system.

link

Do you think there is any way exercise (running, weight lifting) could eliminate some of these endocrine disruptors from your body?

I figure theres a lot we can't avoid coming in contact with living in modern life. At least we know what to avoid eating now. I just lift weights and that elevates my testosterone levels.

What kind of foods are there to eat that detoxify besides broccoli? I know cilantro can flush your system of fluoride and other heavy metals. What about your skin coming in contact with plastic? Where can you get produce that's not sprayed with those chemicals?

Hi all,

I've read a few posts referring to cosmic cycles and evolution being the reason for the feminization of the male.

This may be true because if you know about our solar system and how it passes through the zodiac, about every 2 thousand years we pass through a different sign or 'age.'

We are on the cusp of the new age of Aquarius which represents the divine feminine (right brain). Pisces, the age we are now leaving represented the divine masculine (left brain), hence; war, greed, power, control, etc.....

Whether the chemicals are feminizing males or not, I think we are heading in that direction anyway.

The male has been dominant for the past 2 thousand years and look at the mess we are in now! We cannot survive in this mindset much longer.

That's why evolution has to step in and give the power back to the female, who represents nurturing, compassion, empathy, etc...

Also I wouldn't give to much credit to TPTB for 'running this show,' the real puppet masters are controlling them!

But I could be wrong, just a thought....

PEACE and LOVE..

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Here's a great article on how to detox environmental estrogen. I work out also and try not to use plastic. I have several stainless steel hydration bottles, Thermos brands are the best, they keep the water ice cold. Since I do work out 5 days a week, I also take ZMA every night before I go to bed.

thedetoxspecialist.com...



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I posted about this over 2 years ago. I didn't have the gumption to make a thread on it. Maybe it takes being a man to be motivated enough to do so.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Chemical castration? That's far worse than infertility and would get more media and public attention rather than just lowered sperm count.



I have to wonder when and if this is already effecting our food supply, such as chickens. I suppose that this is done artificially, but would also think the supplies would eventually run out. So, does this also apply to the chicken and the egg question?

Man made chemicals or chemicals that have always been here, but our systems or DNA can't tolerate any more. It would make sense if it's in the water we need to flush it out.

Alien or whatever species have also been said to have similar problems. The ones I've heard about, don't have much if any genitals to speak of etc.

If women can't handle certain products like enzyte or whatever, how are they safe from it's effects in other ways?

Other factors to consider may be related cyclical events/time zero etc.

Another thing is our use of fossil fuels and soy as fuel. Many things may be connected to this as well. Oil and gasoline production may be related due to substances that are brought up deep below the earths surface. Do they even test these? I doubt all fossil fuels around the world have the same chemicals, toxins etc.

Now we have chemicals and organisms that are probably getting into our water and food sources from melting ice caps. I find it hard to understand and accept that it's just this one chemical.

Man boobs or moobs is embarrassing enough. I hope our voices don't change also.

As for sperm count, I think I have enough kids already and too old for them as well. I could think of many parts of the world that could use a lot less fertility. Makes me wonder if this was planned.



There was something in the bible about a warning with children " In those days" and those who suck or suckle. Maybe it's also related to breastmilk.