Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech

Joe speaks

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Comments on Illegal immigrants and the health care bill.

reply to post by Stormdancer777


Now you know the *rest* of the story.

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Obama proved to me he is a liar when he just replied humbly, "it's not true". This is one of the most hotly contested bills i have seen in my short life and it is getting to the point where congressmen are calling their own president a liar and he doesn't even defend himself, or the bill. I would have expected, "I am not a liar, this is because..." instead all we get is a "it's not true" and more lines. I think Obama either demoralized himself and his administration by not defending himself or rallied everyone behind some kind of, pity party, Obama got yelled at, tirade.
We shall soon see.

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by jd140
Your boy Obama isn't the first President to be heckled while giving a speech.

Not "my boy" dude. I'm Canadian. Luck for you. How would you like your gov't to look like this:

 

That's what I'm talking about. Decorum. Has nothing to do with policy.

WOW that's awesome intrepid, who are the jumping jacks in the front row, very entertaining,

post more, lol

Edit to say,

We don't need no stink'in Decorum

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Originally posted by maybereal11
Hey now Intrepid...i know things can get heated...even for a mod...but lets not lump all us Americans together and dismiss us en masse....and no-one deserves the system we currently have, I wouldn't even wish it on the Canadians

You are right. My apologies to my Southern brethren.

Originally posted by Alien Mind

Originally posted by Pathos
Even though I am not a supporter of Obama, I found the congressmen to be unprofessional. We have to maintain a certain level of civility and respect to the presidency. It was very distasteful.

Obama is a socialist without question; however, he occupies a significant seat in our government. If we do not show that seat respect, there will be no power of influence when a respected man sits in it.

So basically your saying is that he should have just remained seated and know his place?

What I am saying is that -- Even though people such as myself disagree with the current president, we should show some restraint when he has the podium. Sure, town hall meetings do allow a certain levity, which people can casually use as a means for protesting. When the President holds a "State of the Union" type of forum to express his agenda, congressmen and citizens should behave in a respectable manner. Its not the time or place.

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I wish he was my comgressman. I'd vote for him. The president is a damn liar.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by Hal9000
I think Obama could have left out the divisive comments toward the right. That is not how you gain bipartisan support and I was surprised he used it.

I thought he went pretty easy on them. But he did call them out, yes. I thought it was about time.

But you don't extend an olive branch with one hand then call them out with the other. It just wasn't the appropriate time. Everything he said I agree with and I could throw in a few more for good measure, but all he had to do was even just tone it down and made his point.

He does need to stand up to the opposition more, IMO. Just not during a joint congressional speech.

I wondered what the "you lie" comment was actually meant to address, too. But after watching it again, I'm convinced it was the illegal immigrants thing (but you could be right that their ire started to rise with the Death Panel comment):

The reason why I think that is because he was just repeating Obama.

"That is a lie." "You lie."

There just happened to be a few seconds delay between the two.

Agreed. There were several good ideas he got from Republicans and I hope they can all work together to get it done! We need this so badly!

As dysfunctional as Washington has become, I think they will get it done in some form.

The numbers that the President is giving concerning the amount of people who arent insured are either false, or must include the millions of illegals who spunge off our system each day. If he is including those millions of illegals in his figures of uninsured "americans" as a motivator for this massive healthcare reform, then why is it difficult for us to believe that he indeed plans to cover these same "illegals" in his health care plan? I would say he did lie, the numbers dont add up. The truth of the mater is that health insurance policies actually increased last year, more Americans are insured now than they have been in recent years and his political aspirations of gaining the latino vote is being manipulated through the offering of cheap or free health care to the ever growing hispanic population. He's buying votes here people. Simple as that.

Originally posted by TheTruthShallFreeYou
So BH, Intrepid, any thoughts?

About what? I condemned the Bush boo'ers, too.

And Boehner doesn't need a freaking invitation. Obama has always said that his door was open to anyone with ideas and reiterated it last night.

This is the plan I'm proposing. It's a plan that incorporates ideas from many of the people in this room tonight – Democrats and Republicans. And I will continue to seek common ground in the weeks ahead. If you come to me with a serious set of proposals, I will be there to listen. My door is always open.

Speech Text

What did you want my thoughts on? I'll be glad to give them.

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Now why can't we get a guy like this to run for President? Hopefully his little "fluke" last night will make him so popular with people that he'll run for Prez 2012. He's got my vote already.

Death squawk of a sick bird.

The GOP doesn't know how to save themselves...and I am pulling for them.

FYI - Sen. Joe Wilson demanded that the Dixie Chicks apologize to the families of solidiers in SC after the lead singer said...
in LONDON at a CONCERT...."Just so you know, we're ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas."

JOE WILSON Ripped into them as UNPATRIOTIC and yes "Disrespectful of the President"

Bill O'Rielly suggested they needed to be "slapped around".

Radio stations pulled their music from the air.

Venues cancelled appearances.

Just because she spoke badly about the president AT a CONCERT...A SINGER...In a STADIUM.

Yet this DUFUS Senator who wanted to lynch the Dixie Chicks
HECKLES THE POTUS During a speeche at the JOINT SESSIONS of Congress.

Anyone understand the difference between a rock concert and a speech by the president at a Joint Session? The difference between a singer and a Senator?

The Irony that it was this same idiot that attacked the Dixie Chicks?

Stunning hypocracy, inane behavior and prideful stupidity...

Just another death sqawk.
The GOP is dying....I mourn them a little more each day ..

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Originally posted by xmaddness
Edit for better discussions:
Do you think what Rep. Joe Wilson did was justified? Why do you think this?

I am amazed at the outburst from South Carolina Republican Rep. Joe Wilson. In a time when we need bi-partisan support from both sides, it is clear that some republicans are simply going to dig in and continue to be part of the "party of no".

What furthers my anger of such outbursts is the fact that there is no final bill drawn that would even be able to prove that this is in fact a lie. Where does he get off calling this a lie without anything to back it up? Incidents like this are exactly what is causing the propagation of propagandist mis-information in this country on this issue.


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Go get'um Joe! I was yelling at the TV too. HR3200 IS the bill that the Dems thought they would shove down our throats and that is the basis for discussion. An amendment to this bill was "all participants must be US citizens and verified using E-Verify" but the Dems voted this down. The bill's language says "must be US citizen" but it also says "no one may ask a participants nationality", thus illegals just have to lie and they get covered as is already happening now.

Misinformation is what Obama was spewing. Last month he tells the Republicans, shut up and get out of the way. Last night, he tells the Republicans, why don't you participate and come up with your own bill (opposite sides of the story, a LIE). That's what the Republicans held up, their Bill which is NOT being carried by any normal media. The media is just Obama supporters.

It's time for the conservatives to be VOCAL. We're $100 trillion is debt, no more spending, slash everything else.

Maybe it was about illegal immigrants after all.

However, on the way to his office Thursday morning, Wilson said his outburst wasn't planned.

"It was spontaneous. It was when he stated, as he did, about not covering illegal aliens, when I knew we had those two amendments, and I say that respectfully," Wilson said.

He was referring to two amendments on one version of proposed health care legislation, which he said would have provided for verification of citizenship. Both of the amendments were defeated, he said.

www.cnn.com...

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Well thanks for letting us know that, I didn't realize. Seems he can dish it out but he can't take it.

Originally posted by Highground

Originally posted by Angus123
Whether or not it was a lie, or even a slight bending of the truth notwithstanding, the previous president was the most shameless liar ever to hold the office and nobody ever treated him with such disdain.

It was out of line, and now the whole world can see just how far the once admired United States has sunk into the mud.

What flavor is the Kool-Aid today? I've been abstaining, as I'm trying to lose weight.

You can go ahead and drink my portion.

Do you have a point or are you just gonna sit there looking adorable?

Don't worry though sweetie, you have plenty of people out there screaming on the news every night that think you're an intellectual

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I actually agree with Wilson that illegal immigrants shouldn't be covered. I think illegal immigrants should have to answer to the law for breaking it.

But I disagree with him showing the disrespect that he did. Not just to the President, but to his fellow Congressmen and to the entire country. We don't need to have knock-down, drag out fights that I've seen in some governmental meetings around the world. We need to live up to the standards of civility that we have set for ourselves.

These guys have to get hold of themselves and take some responsibility.

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Nice deflection.
You know very well what I was referring to.
If you are confused, please follow the handy links provided.

You say I should take the President at his word.
I say sure, but here is a statement saying they were told their help wasn't needed.
Now you say that he said last night he wanted everyone involved.
My question, if you care to comment, was "why is Pres. Obama now saying he wants what he has avoided for months? "

I have no idea why a President would imply that no one fromn the other side wants reform, when the truth is they just don't want the reform that has been offered by the ONE side.

Make sense?

I await your response to this...

I dont know how it works in the US, but it made me sick seeing them all last night applauding and making standing ovations just for every sentence Obama finished. This guy shouldnt have to apologie for what he believes in, why should he be peer pressured into what everyone else thinks and to "suck to" to Obama like everyone else did in that room yesterday.
If anything the guy should be awarded for his bravery in standing up for all that is right and that American Democracy (if it still exists) allows that his voice SHOULD be heard, but him having to apologise for not agree'ing with everyone means that this isnt the case anymore.
America has lost the right to free speech and self-opinion.

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maybe if people watched a house of commons session?

How about when the speaker slams the door in the face of the royal rep. ?

ahhh, good times.