OK.....what????

It's ridiculous posturing, more propaganda aimed at dividing the country into two mutually hostile camps.

The President got on TV and told kids to work hard & stay in school.
BFD - not exactly Communist rhetoric

Obama is neither Messiah nor Antichrist, just another politician.

The hysteria about this administration (especially considering all the stuff the last one pulled) is unintentionally hilarious.

So far as I can see, no guns have been seized, no political dissidents have been sent to gulags, the UN is not deploying peacekeepers to Peoria, and I haven't received my assignment to work in People's Glorious Bobblehead Factory #17

the iq of the mass never raise up dont it?

Originally posted by octotom
It's not that the president was going to give a speech that made people made. It was the assignment that the White House wanted teachers to do.

While I'm sure that's true for SOME people, there were PLENTY of people who just simply didn't want their kids to hear Obama speak. It's only now that the totally benign speech is over that they're saying, "Well, I was just concerned about the lesson plan..." Yeah, uh-huh...

Of course this is a troubling thing for the President to be doing.

I think this is a little too much. If I was a parent of a child in those grades, I would encourage them to take the day off. Where does he get off on talking to our youngest of youngest? What is this brainwashing?

I don't like the Idea of a President giving a speach to my elementary school age children.

Its funny to see the switch of concern from the speech to the lesson plan.

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If you knew the difference between "education" and "indocturnation", there would be no mystery and you would'nt need to ask the question. What a silly idea to suggest American's object to their children having an education. What kind of BS are you trying to start here anyway. You need to look up the definitions of these words and educate yourself first before you accuse American's of not wanting an education for their children. That's ridiculous.

geeze!!!

Originally posted by stereovoyaged
So I was just reading an aritcle on CNN.com about how Americans are getting angry at Obama planning a speech telling kids to stay in school and that they will need an education to go anywhere in life. Am I missing something here?? Isn't that..a....goood thing??? How dare he try and tell kids to better themselves

the nerve!

Here's the deal. It's not Americans but NEO NAZI...ehem I mean NEO conservative portions of our government who are trying to turn people against Obama because it's more important for the NEO NAZI...I MEAN conservatives (wow I keep doing that to tear him down then help him rebuild THE PEOPLES government after Bush and Darth Cheney's destruction.

The American people as a whole are for what Obama has to say and are for universal healthcare.

The speech was not some "indoctrination" attempt but merely a PEP TALK. Anyone who believes otherwise is just ignorant of reality. As example, Bush made a similar speech as did other presidents and not one word was said about those speeches? WHY?????????

DON'T BE TAKEN IN BY THE LIES OF THE REPUBLICANS !!!!!



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Originally posted by Agree2Disagree
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I relate this to the athiests that mention indoctrnation of children into the church.

These parents are essentially indoctrinating their children into anti-obama campaigns. They're doing to their own children what they are afraid of. I guess it's better that you undermine their rational thought processes with "this man is evil" than Obama with his "stay in school". Parents always think they know what's best and often times it ends up affecting the children in a negative manner.

Children have brains too, let them use them. Often times children are a better judge of character than adults anyways.

 

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Well, sadly here is what the children will be learning from the actions of many parents in this country.

The children will know that Obama gave a speech about how important it is to stay in school and get good grades. They will hear it on tv, hear other children talking about it, listen to neighbors etc.

They will then hear about how "evil" etc Obama is.

The children will then internalize what Obama said "staying in school is good", and then internalize what many adults are saying "Obama is evil". They will, as children do, twist this to be, if the adults around me feel Obama is evil, and Obama says staying in school is good, then staying in school must be evil.

Nice work parents. You've just confused your children even further.

Hopefully, these children are learning to think for themselves despite the actions of their parents. Most children, if given a true opportunity, will shock you with how intelligent they can be. Sometimes, I think adults should take a step back and listen to our children, they seem at many times to me to be far more intelligent than many adults I know.

Harm None
Peace

Originally posted by amazed
Hopefully, these children are learning to think for themselves despite the actions of their parents. Most children, if given a true opportunity, will shock you with how intelligent they can be. Sometimes, I think adults should take a step back and listen to our children, they seem at many times to me to be far more intelligent than many adults I know.

Harm None
Peace

Very good post. Starred !
My hope is also that children will think for themselves because their parents obviously don't know how to think at all.

A new slogan should be:
Kid's just say NO to your parents STUPIDITY !

I send my children to private school. If you are going to send your children to the conformity factory that is public school you deserve what you get. My children won't be hearing from Mr. Obama. It's all about choice. If you really care Home School. I wish I could.

As example, Bush made a similar speech as did other presidents and not one word was said about those speeches? WHY?????????

And does anyone remember what happened after President Bush gave that speech?

Here's a refresher
www.washingtonexaminer.com...

It's all the same thing just from the other side. Politics as usual.

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Yes but just as you said you wish you could. These "concerned" parents probably wish they could too.

Besides that, then there's the issue of these little ones being home schooled by their apparently blind and very narrow minded parents. How awful is that? We need a generation that can think and fend for itself if we are to ever change the system so many of us despise. Another generation that views things exactly the same as the previous one is exactly what the PTB that run this atrocity of a machine want.


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Thank you. I agree wholeheartedly. Thinking for ones self is not highly valued in our culture.

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Why are liberals so hell bent on pushing this issue of having Obomber talk to kids. We already have another thread going on the same thing. What is so hard about understanding, "LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE"?

Don't you understand, your insistence on Obomber getting to the kids is NOT helping your cause at all? All your really doing is showing everyone the Obomber agenda has to be forced on others. It does not appeal to reason but rather appeals to retarded adults and small children who are to naive to know the difference.

The Republicans should be the last of your worries since the Obaminoids are doing such a marvelous of trashing the obomber agenda without any help from anyone else.

People are deeply frustrated with life in general these days and are taking it out on Obama.

As far as I'm concerned Obama is little more than a sock-puppet for TPTB and people would do better to direct their anger towards the Fed, big banks, military-industrial complex, etc. But in people's minds, he becomes an over-simplified target for ambient rage.

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Hasn't that been the general job description of the POTUS for awhile now? I mean, he's the figure the people see, so he's the one they take it out on. TPTB wouldn't have it any other way.


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Hasn't that been the general job description of the POTUS for awhile now? I mean, he's the figure the people see, so he's the one they take it out on. TPTB wouldn't have it any other way.

 

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Totally agree. At the risk of repeating myself (I made the same comments in a different thread yesterday), I believe the last two presidents to "buck the system" (in different ways) were Kennedy and Nixon. Both made a lot of enemies among TBTB, and both were removed from office (in different ways). Ever since the office has been filled with empty suits IMHO.

Originally posted by useless eaters
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Why are liberals so hell bent on pushing this issue of having Obomber talk to kids. We already have another thread going on the same thing. What is so hard about understanding, "LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE"?

Um because children are our future and they're not doing very well and so the leader of the free world thought that giving them a pep talk wouldn't hurt ???? DUH

Don't you understand, your insistence on Obomber getting to the kids is NOT helping your cause at all?

Sorry, I don't know who you are referring to? Are you referring to Obama? If that is the case, you are a perfect example of why we need more school intervention as you can't even spell our presidents name.
Obama is not trying to "GET TO THE KIDS", he's trying to INSPIRE the kids. Paranoid much?

All your really doing is showing everyone the Obomber agenda has to be forced on others.

If you need the correct spelling of his name, let me know. Your continuous misspelling of his name makes you look a bit ignorant. Let me know if I can help.

It does not appeal to reason but rather appeals to retarded adults and small children who are to naive to know the difference.

Yep. Heaven forbid someone actually care about the children and wants to inspire them.

The Republicans should be the last of your worries since the Obaminoids

Is english not your first language. I notice your constant misspelling of Obama's name and again, it makes you look unintelligent. If you don't know how to use a dictionary, let me know and I'd be glad to provide the proper spelling for you.

are doing such a marvelous of trashing the obomber agenda without any help from anyone else.

Sorry, I have no idea what this even means.

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Could have seen this one coming a mile away, and so typical of liberal thought. Just more of the sickning, puke and vomit, idea that the liberal loves your child more than you do, and therefore knows more about whats right for your child than you do.

You are nothing but control freaks. The only value a child has for you is a tool to further your insane agenda. LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE!

Originally posted by jfj123

Originally posted by useless eaters
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Why are liberals so hell bent on pushing this issue of having Obomber talk to kids. We already have another thread going on the same thing. What is so hard about understanding, "LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE"?

Um because children are our future and they're not doing very well and so the leader of the free world thought that giving them a pep talk wouldn't hurt ???? DUH

Don't you understand, your insistence on Obomber getting to the kids is NOT helping your cause at all?

Sorry, I don't know who you are referring to? Are you referring to Obama? If that is the case, you are a perfect example of why we need more school intervention as you can't even spell our presidents name.
Obama is not trying to "GET TO THE KIDS", he's trying to INSPIRE the kids. Paranoid much?

All your really doing is showing everyone the Obomber agenda has to be forced on others.

If you need the correct spelling of his name, let me know. Your continuous misspelling of his name makes you look a bit ignorant. Let me know if I can help.

It does not appeal to reason but rather appeals to retarded adults and small children who are to naive to know the difference.

Yep. Heaven forbid someone actually care about the children and wants to inspire them.

The Republicans should be the last of your worries since the Obaminoids

Is english not your first language. I notice your constant misspelling of Obama's name and again, it makes you look unintelligent. If you don't know how to use a dictionary, let me know and I'd be glad to provide the proper spelling for you.

are doing such a marvelous of trashing the obomber agenda without any help from anyone else.

Sorry, I have no idea what this even means.

Yea, go after the spelling. Get's em every time. Yea, that will teach em to worship lord obomber. It's the spelling. ROLMAO

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Excuse me? If believing that positive reinforcement of education is liberal in nature, I just realised that.

How is it that with no political associations I still manage to pull a label from someone? We HAVE to change this system. Simply changing the players doesn't change the game.

On topic:
The parents have done more harm than the POTUS here. He simply delivered a speech of positive intent(sure there may be the small agenda of raising his ratings with the people, but that doesnt negate the positivity of his message) to the next generation to affect the nation. The parents on the otherhand have undermined 'authority' in a way and thus evoked the feeling that is okay to disobey if you don't agree with the rules or regulations set forth. Also, they have engrained an anti-obama theme into their child(ren)(s) minds. When associating this with his message children will undoubtedly come to the conclusion that if obama is "evil" then his message of staying in school must be "evil" as well.

So, I'm a liberal

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. Thank you for that. (I rarely even discuss politics since there seems to be no room for logic in any discussion pertaining to politics.)


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it is actually a presidential tradition.. besides Bush. Every president prior did the same speech to the school children. We seem to have forgotten that though...