Alex Jones Has Finally Lost It--His Credibility And Damaged Ours

reply to post by ugie1028


details?

sorry i know 9/11 is not as it seems...

the point is NOT the facts but the manner it was presented.. i am not a soft # my friend , but hyping a story as fact to your base knowing what is at stake is bad..

you see we get called AJ haters and that is fine.. but let me tell you

NO LIE NO MATTER WHAT YOU WISH TO JUSTIFY MAKES IT RIGHT

he lied for a reason AND It was wrong...

he lost my respect today

Well, he is an angry old man.. but it's really surprising that he would pull some straight-up scam like this. I especially respect "The Brotherhood Of Death", that's very unique.

As for "damaging our credibility", well.. he doesn't represent me at least. I don't really believe in bullhorning people and ranting in pub. places. That really makes him look like a nutjob.. I know he's mad, but I don't believe that's going to make any good.

This move was pretty sub-standard really.

was below par

he could have said charlie wants blah posted a draft letter then made big news if he or charlie got it

his approach was so wrong it baffles me.

and i mean that.

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
reply to post by ugie1028

 

details?

sorry i know 9/11 is not as it seems...

the point is NOT the facts but the manner it was presented.. i am not a soft # my friend , but hyping a story as fact to your base knowing what is at stake is bad..

you see we get called AJ haters and that is fine.. but let me tell you

NO LIE NO MATTER WHAT YOU WISH TO JUSTIFY MAKES IT RIGHT

he lied for a reason AND It was wrong...

he lost my respect today

yea, we all get it, your upset. boo hoo

Your missing the point about this information AJ and CH have presented in the interview. (FAKE OR NOT)

Looks like you let someone else hurt your ego.

And yet, your still behind your computer, grunting.

I laugh at you. I am done with this thread. its going nowhere. at least the point of this setup is plainly obvious, but your too narrow-minded to see the point, and grasp it from a different perspective.

As i said before, i didint like the tactic they used, but its the way they did iit, so what. Point was made.

(whats done is done, and cannot be un-done)

Have a good night.

A lot of people seem to care a lot about Alex Jones though. Else we wouldn't have all these threads dissing him.

I don't believe everything he says, since he easily gets carried away, and turns theories into facts by using words such as "they will", "they are", instead of "they may", "they might be", "they could be". In his statements everything is fact. He does this to attract the attention of more people. For people to protest more "what could be going on".

A lot of what he says is true, but in order to know that, you need to research his true and false statements on other websites, including the mainstream news, to see which ones he's bringing to unnecessary great proportions, and which ones are fact.

For example, the New World Order is a fact in planning.

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In order to create misinformation create a point in which anyone will associate themselves with the collective mind, aka egregore.

IF YOU SPEAK FOR TRUTH, BE the Truth. AND DO NOT WASTE YOUR BREATH ON A FALSE IMAGE.

Law of attraction... seriously? 20 some pages of nonsense... Did anyone seriously read this whole thread?

NEGATIVE RESPONSES ARE A CONDITIONED Reaction/ an open and selective decision will tend to yield a higher resonate vibration as one calibrates within a level of integrity.

Wake up People. Love everything and do everything you love. ^^. Everything is love, or if it makes you comfortable, call it light, better yet, Say it does matter because everything is made up of atoms... Following the greek etymology of Atom, it means uncuttable. But I think we already lost the point haven't we?

Life is a metaphor. Breath

Once again I feel compelled to voice my opinion that people can be upset about this while still recognizing, understanding, and even appreciating the information/evidence cited in the letter/interview. The two aren't mutually exclusive, and being upset because AJ was somewhat duplicitous does not automatically make one myopic or somehow unenlightened.

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not that i have any clue who alex jones is - what "story he made up" - or that i even care about it... but you got me wondering to myself, what would really happen if someone knew something they weren't supposed to know and they went out and tried to expose it to a large group of people... i mean sure the "bad guys" could probably just kill you, but wouldn't that just cause a lot more people to investigate? i guess it all depends on what 'huge secret' was being exposed...

Originally posted by squidboy

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
I said it before and I'll say it again: I pity those who actually believe anything this guy says. It's called being a con artist. It's quite easy to make money off people's fears and paranoia.

Who are you talking about, The President? The PTB?

Oh, just more Jone's hate... My mistake.

Well you obviously just looooooove the guy, I would'nt be surprised if you ARE AJ. I don't care how you slice it, this little 'event' he pulled today was just lame.

I don't see how Alex Jones or ATS have lost any credibility, there was none to begin with. Nobody has been had but the people who actually tune in and fail to drop out in time.

Good job!

I have been following Jones for years.

I dismissed him as a hype-man crackpot fringe looney scam artist ten years ago.
He's the PT Barnum of paranoia.

When I saw his youtube announcement, I chuckled when I thought of the publics' reaction when they were going to be let down at 11am EST by the modern day Chicken Little.

I can't believe some of you guys still fall for his scam.
HE SELLS FEAR and irrational paranoia.
And the guy is unstable.
While I am no fan of Michelle Malkin, the way he conducted himself around her at the Mint in Salt Lake City was unacceptable. He showed himself to be a buffoon when he was screaming in her face.

Once in a blue moon, Jones says something of interest, but unfortunately, that's once in a blue moon.

heh i'm still wondering why Obama would talk to Sheen about 911 in the first place...

Abovetopsecret is recognised and respected, we've had politicians interviewed and respected researchers.

Other conspiracy sites mock, insult and make accusations against us because we have never conditioned ourselves to the paranoia and "everything is a conspiracy."

To the posters in the 9/11 Conspiracies section, are you surprised by his action? Alex Jones destroyed the truth movement and the made the MSM believe truthers were mindless conspiracy theorists.

Ron Paul had his electoral chances ruined by infowars.com too.

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At least it was more subtle then his Y2K rampage, but yes i also hoped somebody like Michael Scofield would walk in with Scylla...
Well he got more attention, and more people hearing his advertisement..good for him..

[edit on 9-9-2009 by Foppezao]

Alex Jones is Bill Hicks?

Mocker for Mockingbird?

Given the events of the last 24 hours, I would like to hear some input from ATS folk about this bizarre connection. Austin Cable Access, same video packaging company, entertainment connections etc...

While I'm not the biggest fan of AJ, I think the fake interview was well intentioned, it was just poorly executed, because how different would the comments be if we had seen any of the following brought up in todays news...

CS – Thank you Mr. President. Okay, first; On the FBI’s most wanted list Osama Bin Laden is not charged with the crimes of 911. When I called the FBI to ask them why this was the case, they replied: “There’s not enough evidence to link Bin Laden to the crime scene,” I later discovered he had never even been indicted by the D.O.J.

CS – Number 2; FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, was dismissed and gagged by the D.O.J. after she revealed that the government had foreknowledge of plans to attack American cities using planes as bombs as early as April 2001. In July of ‘09, Mrs. Edmonds broke the Federal gag order and went public to reveal that Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda and the Taliban were all working for and with the C.I.A. up until the day of 9/11.

CS – Number 3; The following is a quote from Mayor Giuliani during an interview on 9/11 with Peter Jennings for ABC News. “I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us.”

WHO TOLD HIM THIS??? To this day, the answer to this question remains unanswered, completely ignored and emphatically DENIED by Mayor Giuliani on several public occasions.

CS – Number 4; In April 2004, USA Today reported, “In the two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command conducted exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties.” One of the targets was the World Trade Center.

CS – Number 5; On September 12th 2007, CNN’s ‘Anderson Cooper 360’, reported that the mysterious “white plane” spotted and videotaped by multiple media outlets, flying in restricted airspace over the White House shortly before 10am on the morning of 9/11, was in fact the Air Force’s E-4B, a specially modified Boeing 747 with a communications pod behind the cockpit; otherwise known as “The Doomsday Plane”.

Though fully aware of the event, the 9/11 Commission did not deem the appearance of the military plane to be of any interest and did not include it in the final 9/11 Commission report.

CS – Number 6; Three F-16s assigned to Andrews Air Force Base, ten miles from Washington, DC, are conducting training exercises in North Carolina 207 miles away as the first plane crashes into the WTC. Even at significantly less than their top speed of 1500 mph, they could still have defended the skies over Washington well before 9am, more than 37 minutes before Flight 77 crashes into the Pentagon, however, they did not return until after 9:55am.

Andrews AFB had no armed fighters on alert and ready to take off on the morning of 9/11.

CS – Number 7; WTC Building 7. Watch the video of its collapse.

CS – Number 8; Flight 93 is fourth plane to crash on 9/11 at 10:03am. V.P. Cheney only gives shoot down order at 10:10-10:20am and this is not communicated to NORAD until 28 minutes after Flight 93 has crashed.

Fueling further suspicion on this front is the fact that three months before the attacks of 9/11, Dick Cheney usurped control of NORAD, and therefore he, and no one else on planet Earth, had the power to call for military sorties on the hijacked airliners on 9/11. He did not exercise that power. Three months after 9/11, he relinquished command of NORAD and returned it to military operation.

CS – Number 9; Scores of main stream news outlets reported that the F.B.I. conducted an investigation of at least FIVE of the 9/11 hijackers being trained at U.S. military flight schools. Those investigations are now sealed and need to be declassified.

CS – Number 10; In 2004, New York firefighters Mike Bellone and Nicholas DeMasi went public to say they had found the black boxes at the World Trade Center, but were told to keep their mouths shut by FBI agents. Nicholas DeMasi said that he escorted federal agents on an all-terrain vehicle in October 2001 and helped them locate the devices, a story backed up by rescue volunteer Mike Bellone.

reply to post by ugie1028


no you miss understand

that one we know the facts and have done for many moons the point is not about the facts but the manner in how he did it.. so yes boo hoo..

if you wish to say boo hoo over some idiots scamming people in order to get FACTS out then thats your own taste and not mine or others that have posted on here

in fact i felt it right to make a mockery of him and jones..

Interview with an alien

www.abovetopsecret.com...

just as stupid and as Alex AND sheen.. and just as POINTLESS the only difference is that 1 I do not lie about 3000 dead people in order to garnish PUBLICITY

my STORY is funny HIS on the other hand WAS BELOW THE BELT and CRASS

and if you think or want to justify his actions it makes you as shallow as him REGARDLESS OF THE FACTS

now stick that in your pipe n smoke it buddy

reply to post by sum1one


thats the point mate HE WONT.. who the bloody hell is sheen? some washed up stupid hollywood bitch ? who only has a job because of his dad ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

Sheen: I demand to talk to the potus
BHO: go # your self
Sheen: BUT BUT im on the TV and my dad is like famous n i have a tv show
BHO: and your point is?
Sheen: I want my ball back
BHO: i own YOU and the ball you idiot.. my mates print the money
Sheen: oh ok then...
BHO: did i tell you my mates killed JFK?
Sheen: woops for got about that
BHO: run along kiddo we have a new world order to run now pissoff..

End of story

[edit on 9-9-2009 by symmetricAvenger]

Know what I think?

Forget them. ALL OF THEM. Turn off the tube. Get your personal supplies in order. Keep your guns clean and keep yourself in practice with them. Spend quality time with your friends and loved ones (because if they're worth their salt, you can rely on them a LOT more than anyone on your TV or internet). Stay prepared, and don't get distracted by these dog and pony shows when there's more productive things to do.