UFO filmed/photographed in China by many

My first topic on ATS, might as well make it count!

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The UFO that was seen by 22 students in the city of Deqing in China during a rooftop observation of the solar eclipse has been hailed by that nations massive UFO community as the UFO event of the year. China's media has extensively reported on the story, which was originally broken by the government owned Xinhua, China's most establishment newspaper, with reports in over fifty outlets: Yet the event is being completely ignored by the western media.

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One of the clearest images yet and it gets ignored by the west? Also seems like it's getting ignored here on ats

Hey what a fantastic first post! Good job. Something I've never seen before and it looks really interesting. I have an idea on what it could be though...

Here's the photo of what was observed in China:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/ccc8c79d991c.jpg[/atsimg]

Here's a somewhat similar (but longer and more stretched out) double reflection over an island caused by a mirage:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d03e54b29a57.jpg[/atsimg]
(source: www.polarimage.fi... )
See how they both look like a double reflection? The reflections are both slightly distorted (not exact reflections of each other, nor is either reflection an exact reflection of the island). Note one of the reflections is inverted which gives them the disc shape.

So the first thing I wonder is, what are the coordinates (Lat. and Long.) of the sighting, and the direction of the sighting? We could check Google Earth to see if there are any distant hilltops that could be the source of this photo (if there's a temperature inversion).

I didn't see any such information in the article, but if anyone finds out, please post it so we can check out that possibility.

If it's not that, I don't know what it is. But it looks a little distorted to be a real solid object.

Here's some information on mirages for those not familiar with them:

mintaka.sdsu.edu...

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I don't care if it was crystal clear and showed aliens waving at them, it will be ignored by most of the world's media, not just the "western" media, lol. That is because this subject is LAUGHABLE to the mainstream media. If you don't know why it is so laughable, stick around for a while, you will soon find out why people laugh at us.

And I love how singling out "the western media" specifically is a transparent effort to point at the United States and insinuate the we're "holding back" important stuff and keeping the world in the dark. Sad, really.

It's not the western media. The statement should read "this tiny shred of evidence, no mater the quality, is being ignored by 99.9999967% of the entire world's media"...not just that "evil western media"

[edit on 6-9-2009 by IgnoreTheFacts]

Of course..it's a Chinese lantern!

It's difficult to say what that is, given the lack of anything to scale it against, but it's not a mirage (IMHO) Nice find

Excellent post. Very interresting stuff.

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I am around and sticking around for a while... btw i never said 'it was being ignored by the west' ... the OP did

looks like cgi to me im sure it is a hoax those people in china could make a turd look like a ufo if they wanted..Just more blurry pics of so called ufo"s mabe its a model on a string but you cant take anything you see or hear as the truth.

Originally posted by nomadros
Of course..it's a Chinese lantern!

It's difficult to say what that is, given the lack of anything to scale it against, but it's not a mirage (IMHO) Nice find

I don't understand the language in the video, if it danced around a little in the sky in the same direction, that's typical of a mirage, but if they had to turn around 180 degrees from, say, north to south to keep filming it, then I too would rule out a mirage as mirages don't do that.

Actually I'm not sure a mirage either, I only say that is a possibility. But you seem sure it's not, why are you so sure? If you know of some reasons we should rule that out, please share them, I'm listening.

Language in the youtube video is Cantonese. Wikied Deqing County & there's actually 2 Deqing County. One is in Guangdong so if the youtube video is referring to the Deqing County in Guangdong, then the Cantonese being spoken is a fit. The TV station is Zhu Jiang TV so it should be correct. (Zhu Jiang refers to the Pearl River which is where Guangdong is situated.)

I'd do a partial translation of the written Chinese as my Cantonese is almost non existent.

Male Announcer: "This secondary school student saw the UFO & at first believed it to be a black plastic bag. He did not pay much attention to it at first. However after a while, the UFO started to transform."

Student (Feng Jiayu): "At that moment, it started to shine. You can see it with your naked eye that it was shining. It kept flying until the moment I took the last photograph and then I couldn't see it anymore. The total time of the encounter was about 3 to 4 minutes"

Old lady: "It flew up to the height of the sun & did not go up any further beyond that. It flew straight up. Later it changed direction and flew over there. It flew very fast & high."

Male Announcer: "Because of the short duration of the encounter, the secondary school student could only take 9 photos of the UFO using a digital camera."

Student: " I cannot imagine what the object is. A plane cannot be black in color. The chances of a black plane is low. That was why I didn't think it was a plane in the beginning. That's why I took the photos. "

Female Reporter: " Jiayu used this camera to photograph the UFO. Using the computer to magnify the images, we can see that it is an olive shaped object. We can see that it really looks like a flying saucer."

Male Announcer: "The reporter subsequently contacted the Meteorological offices of the county & city to find out more about the situation. However regarding the UFO, they expressed no knowledge of the situation."

Some contradictory points. The male announcer says the student did not pay much attention to the black object before it started to transform/shine. However the student later says that he took notice only because it was black in color and hence wasn't an ordinary plane.

Shrug.






[edit on 6-9-2009 by postmeme]

Fakey McNamerson,

Thanks for throwing the spotlight on this. S&F!

The first thing that struck me when I looked at the images was the walnut shaped image...and I immediately recalled the JAL incident in Alaska in 1986.

See here

Jal Flight 1628

Further digging through the links in the one you posted also brought up the similarity. I am posting the walnut shaped UFO seen by Captain Terauchi, commander of flight 1628

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6505dae65bf4.jpg[/atsimg]


Captain Terauchi was a senior commander with an excellent record...The UFO in this case were tracked on both ground and airborne radar, witnessed by experienced airline pilots, and confirmed by a FAA Division Chief.

In China, this UFO was seen by 22 students from a school rooftop and photographed and filmed by 9 of them, according to the news article. Whats even more interesting is that the famous Purple Mountain Observatory has filmed almost 9 minutes of tape with enough data to warrant a deep sifting and study.

Cheers!

Originally posted by earthship35
looks like cgi to me im sure it is a hoax those people in china could make a turd look like a ufo if they wanted..Just more blurry pics of so called ufo"s mabe its a model on a string but you cant take anything you see or hear as the truth.

I am really amazed. The worlds foremost expert on CGI in our midst and we dont even know it?? ( errr...do you know what that term means, btw?)

Are you that xenophobic ( google please, if you want to know the meaning) that you discount something thats obviously intriguing?

Photographic evidence

Independent sightings.

Object bears uncanny resemblance to the JAL incident

Government observatory studying the data

and all you can say is that its CGI?

Wow. Double WOW. As Archie Mcnally would say, my flabber is gasted...

errr... a question to all....How exactly, do I star this thread???

Please pardon my ignorance.


Cheers!

I don't care if it was crystal clear and showed aliens waving at them, it will be ignored by most of the world's media, not just the "western" media, lol. That is because this subject is LAUGHABLE to the mainstream media. If you don't know why it is so laughable, stick around for a while, you will soon find out why people laugh at us.

Well, that seems to have turned, if just a bit. It doesn't hurt to have someone like Larry King produce several shows on UFOs. More countries are offering opening of files (even if those haven't been stellar to this point), and lately, news reporters on TV have actually read these stories without breaking in a smile. That was always the telltale sign of their "haha ok here is this story but of course we think it's ridiculous" attitude.

It has been laughable though in the pats, and I think there is a firm agenda that goes along with that.

As far as it being "us," I don't quite get what you mean. I thought you were a skeptic by nature? At least, you seem to very quickly try to discredit anything that pops up. Do you believe in UFOs? As in of course, being not from "these parts." Or do you not believe in them? I appreciate some clear thinking and use of common sense and logic (which you often do), but then, you really seem to go out of your way to discredit everything, and typically, in a rather heated manner at that. I guess I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from.

err, where exactly is the forty minutes of footage they are analysing for the next few years? did i miss a link somewhere?

Or are they going to sit on it and not release it until the anticipation of the people that want to see it skyrockets, then nothing happens. A bit like the incredible alien footage showing the alien popping up as a guest outside some guys bedroom window..

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Thank you very much for the translation, that's helpful!

Originally posted by Charismagic
The first thing that struck me when I looked at the images was the walnut shaped image...and I immediately recalled the JAL incident in Alaska in 1986.

It does have a resemblance to the JL1628 drawing. It reminds me a little of the Trinidade photo too.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/ae2411cac3ab.jpg[/atsimg]

I found some information about the JL1628 case in the physicsforums and other sources, and posted it here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

that could explain the radar contacts and the silohouette of the giant spaceship.

Originally posted by Charismagic
errr... a question to all....How exactly, do I star this thread???

Please pardon my ignorance.

At the very top on page 1, look just to the right of Fakey McNamerson, you'll see a blank star after 1 or more blue stars. Click the blank star to add a star to the first post.

[edit on 6-9-2009 by Arbitrageur]

Spectacular, i'm speechless: wow.
We can use it as some postage stamp: the size is correct. What i love of this photo are the grounded points of reference, not to mention the multiple witnesses and the radar detection, media covered the event and so on, right? But on top of that, the SOURCE is what convinced me that we are onto something.

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Hi, I put IMHO after my statement regarding a mirage, besides to get that sort of mirage shape, you'ld have to wander about a bit to hit the sweet spot and that shot looks hurried.

The slightly bulbous "front" seems to indicate something like that flying turtle balloon those 2 drunk blokes on the boat videoed. Or it could be a hole in the sky with something poking through it. However, given that it was an eclipse and everyone would be looking up, I'd go a joker and a balloon.

12 months is a short time in Academia. That lot wouldn't take a leak without asking for a grant, measuring the restroom size, recording the flow rate and splash vectors, writing a paper, getting it peer reviewed and then panicking that the results might damage their careers. I've come up against them before (but not in a restroom)

Originally posted by postmeme
"This secondary school student saw the UFO & at first believed it to be a black plastic bag.

That's what I thought. It looks like a big black garbage plastic bag. It can obviously change shapes.

That, and the the fact that liar cohen is pimping it, and also when they say it will take 12 months to 'analyze' the footage, made me suspicious about it all. Some are saying that 'scientists' videotaped it, which is also not correct.

Nothing can be said unless we see the real footage. What are they going to do with it for 1 year ? Take print outs of all the frames on 10 feet glossy sheets ??