NASA and the Moon War: Say no to the bombing!

NASA is using this excuse to test weapons that can be used and controlled from space. That way no one can destroy them (the weapons)!
The "looking for water" story is a cover up

They are not bombing the moon. They are flying an empty, used, rocket booster - that would of otherwise of gone to waste - into the moon. Clearly, the OP does not know elementary physics, it is dramatically more difficult to create a lunar lander due to delta-v requirements, and furthermore even more difficult to drill into the crust because of energy requirements. This is basic, common sense, stuff we're talking about here.

By the way, the booster is already on its way to the moon, there is little or nothing that anyone can do to stop it. Also try building a lunar lander that can drill for water for 75 million dollars or less...

NASA is using this excuse to test weapons that can be used and controlled from space. That way no one can destroy them (the weapons)!
The "looking for water" story is a cover up

Weapons used and controlled from space? You mean like an ICBM, or, many types of surface to air missiles? In any case it is rather pointless to develop weapons from flying empty rocket boosters into the moon...

ArMap: The information regarding the 5 miles crater was reported in different news, I am not sure if this estimate is correct or not as I am far from any expert in explosives.

You don't need to be an expert on explosives to read on the internet and learn that no explosives are included...


I just hope that wars on Earth were accomplished by lobbing empty rocket boosters at each other.... nobody would get hurt..

Trusting anything NASA tells you is about as trustworthy as trusting what any other known criminal liar is telling you, even a random person in the street - which isnt much of a trust in my opinion.

Trusting NASA that has contributed significantly to science to far better than trusting someone who does clearly not understand elementary physics who wants us to trust herself/himself because he/she "told us so".

Good post. What I don't get is the "search" for water bit. Isn't this planet covered 3/4th by water? Why do we need to bomb or search for it elsewhere? I can't stand NASA or the other countless and worthless governmental agencies sucking up taxpayer dollars to produce NOTHING, only use up vital resources.

The point of this mission. Let me help you.

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if this operation really was part of a ` moon war ` - havnt they surrendered the element of surprised ?

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Are you suggesting I've got the wrong idea somewhere?

No Sentient life, no beings in underground cities.

We all know the moon is where God lives anyway. And the mole men on earth would have NONE of us venturing towards such blasphemy.. oO

Originally posted by halfmanhalfamazing
NASA is using this excuse to test weapons that can be used and controlled from space. That way no one can destroy them (the weapons)!
The "looking for water" story is a cover up

The moon is a hologram, everyone know this. Your story holds no water.

They're just trying to make us argue over the "TRUTH" of the moon, so we never question it's actual ""REALITY".

When will you wake up !!!!11

It is interesting to see the "debunkers" using the official story as a backup for their claims when I have made it rather clear that the official story has no interest to me as I know what their unofficial knowledge is.

For me it is completely irrelevant what the official story says the mission is intended for, and what kind of weapon they say they are using. I am more concerned about what is really going on than what is told to be going on.

As far as it comes to the claims about needing to do a war in secret, I can only say that certainly more than one war has happened here on Earth in rather plain sight, where everyone knew the war was going to happen before any attack was executed. You also have to remember that sending things out into space with rockets will not go unnoticed, so regardless of the real reason for doing so, you need to have a story to tell WHY you are sending this out into space. I am pretty certain most people will agree that they would not say "We are bombing the moon to get rid of some annoying people up there".

Regarding my claims and evidence and so on, I made it perfectly clear why it is rather impossible to provide any such and this has very logical reasons which most people should be able to understand. The evidence is already out there - indeed my claims are not more fantastic than the claims of large amounts of other people including many hundreds of people whom have indeed worked for the very government we are discussing at the moment, including NASA. It would be somewhat outrageous to simply believe these people are making it all up for no specific reason, risking their reputation and jobs and what not, if there is nothing to their claims.

Certainly more credible people than me have spoken of life on the Moon and Mars before.

Blessings,
-Maggador

I also would like to state yet again that I certainly do not KNOW that they are trying to do anything malevolent at all - this is just what it SEEM like to me from the knowledge I do have already regarding the governments, the NASA space missions, and so on. I do like to separtate from things I actually KNOW, and things I BELIEVE, as I do not have any intention of seeming like someone whom pretends to know more than I do. But, as explained, what I only BELIEVE is based upon what I actually KNOW.

Hopefully I am wrong, I do know for a fact that a large amount of people working for NASA know nothing about the secret unofficial missions, and indeed it is possible that most people involved with the whole LCROSS mission consists of these people and that they really do believe they are doing what the official story says, and NASA may let them do this to keep up the illusion they have already created for both their own employees and the rest of the world regarding the space missions.

So that is a possibility I am open for, and really hope to be true.

-Maggador

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I don't know if we're starting a war with moon people or not, but...

The argument that we've read on the Internet that it is clearly a two ton object is rather ridiculous. How many "UFOs" are military weapons being tested? The military would never come out and say: Oh, that's just our ship we're testing.

It's swamp gas.
A weather balloon.
A two ton inert projectile being used to see if there is water on the moon.

This is weapons testing, make no mistake.

Sincerely,

The cynical version of myself

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I'll back up the premise of your story and ask people who have worked on military projects or "State Department" projects TS level or higher: how many of you were given the full picture of the project you worked on?

In the top secret world most people are given a portion of the story so that they cannot give away enough information to "hurt" the project should a leak occur.

IF we were doing something shady on the moon I would suspect maybe 15-20 people in the program of 100's would know about it, and it certainly would not be in the newspapers.

Originally posted by ArMaP
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I also think that this method is not the best, but not because of any possible inhabitants, just because they are going to destroy something that cannot be replaced.

Imagine that this spot, for example, is the only one to have evidences on the surface of how the Moon was created, by destroying it they will loose the possibility of knowing what was there.

I agree! What if this causes problems for out planet? They have no idea what they are doing. I would like to know what other countries think of this since it's their moon too! We dont own the moon NASA and we dont own Earth, Earth owns us and she will show us soon! I think she is getting a little ticked lately with us : )

i do appolagise, i never really added anything to this convo before other than pointing out the op's non human heritage (??? .. i think that was all discussed in said other post elsewhere in, shockingly ... the skunk works)

I agreee with everyone else here that says its nothing to worry about.


the moon is a dead rock, hell, a collection of rocks even that over time has fused .... or perhaps its a big chunk of rock that fell off another planet or celestial body which does not exist any more..... either way its a rock ..

what nasa are doing is firing a progectile, well, to say fire is to start the wrong terminology as no firing will be done. The projectile is currently in orbit, and they will simply take it out of orbit and it will crash into the moon, no firing or misiles, it will basicly be the equivilent of a meteor hit.

now.... stop, take a breath, and clear your mind, its thinking time .....

just how many MISSILES bigger than this PROJECTILE (lump of metal) have we fired on our OWN planet and we are still here? hell, we even dig holes and plant massive nuke's deep into our planet and blow them up, and we are still here.


also, i dont meant to sound shalloww, but if their is this race on the moon they shoudl try making themselfs a bit more visable!! try blowing something up themselfs, set off some moon fireworks or something, even just light a fire (lol) ... im sure if their was a race on the moon, and you know this race, you can somehow tell them to signal the earth so we dont blow them up ? im sure you can vibrate on some level to pass my message of common sence to them.

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Could you please explain what do you mean when you say "governments", plural?

Are you talking about several US governments or governments from several countries?

Oh no. Do I smell a Blossom Goodchild-esque non-human, alien, South American, Moon landing denier, let's not argue facts type? Oops! Did I forget Earth-Moon-Mars war stating Pleidian? ANOTHER thread that claims the truth? I have seen a LOT of things on ATS that are far fetched. I have never accused any OP of being the opposite of Deny Ignorance until now. The OP does the opposite of Deny Ignorance.

Ok OP. You just KNOW your facts and can't learn from anyone. PROVE IT. You say you KNOW they use teleportation to go earth-mars-moon. Using the people/places/things you know this from provide us with specs to build one. Since Earth has one or many we must have the right materials to build another. Or in the alternative, teleport each 'debunker' to one central place with a web cam so you can see our expressions when we realize what you KNOW is true.

PS - Bullies (people who bully oher people) please stop. Do you see what you have to deal with later?

Edit: Typos and add PS

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Well, I hope the OP is right. And it results in wiping the flaming ignorant bloody human race out.

I just hope it doesn't affect the poor holidaying mole men, the flying spaghetti monster (blessed be), Adolphthe tooth fairy, roger rabbit, Sam the Christmas taxi driver and all the other great beings that live on the moon.

It is always entertaining to see how much people whom never have been on the Moon seem to know about the place.

Saying that the moon is just a dead rock is a huge assumption and not a fact, if it was a fact the official story would not even be of much point regarding the LCROSS mission as one of the reasons for finding water is to look for life as well.

ArMaP: When I said "governments" in plural I was indeed referring to governments of the world in general, meaning various countries.

GTORick: Personally I have warned about people such as Blossom Goodchild several times, even myself included, and it is good that people are not too gullible as that would not be any better than being too skeptical.

As far as me proving anything goes, I assume you either have not read my previous posts or you have simply ignored them. In either way, I have explained perfectly well the rather simple and logical reasons why I can not prove what you are asking for and feel free to read back if you missed that.

It is ridiculous of you to believe I have the power to select "debunkers" and put them into governmental facilities to let them have a fun-ride on a teleportation machine. That is the only comment I will make about that request to "prove" teleportation.

However I have posted photos from my teleportation experience years ago, and if I can find the person whom I was with then whom own the photos I might be able to supply them here as well. The photos themselves do not prove very much though as anything can be faked these days, nor do they show any fancy teleportation machine but rather the electromagnetic effects caused upon the camera which ruined the photos. In either way, before I can post such things I have to get hold of them again from a person I am not much in contact with these days.

-Maggador

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Theoretically, Captain, he would need tools and materials to build such a device and I believe even in Candyland those cost money, therefore your response to his claims, (asking him to teleport you to the moon) is an extension of the straw man argument and is an inapplicable argument.

Just saying...

*grabs popcorn again and begins to munch*

Originally posted by Phage
The lunar surface is covered with billions (literally) of impact craters of the size which LCROSS will produce. A 2 ton meteor is no big deal, hundreds enter and burn up in the Earth's atmosphere each year. There is no reason to think fewer hit the Moon.There is also the fact that your typical asteroid hits the moon at a much greater speed than LCROSS will.

There is no one living on the Moon but if they were, this will be no big deal. They would see worse on a fairly regular basis.

Interesting... So, LCROSS is just a big waste of my money anyway. Why don't we just watch the asteroids hit the moon and we'll see what comes up?

Originally posted by IX-777
It is always entertaining to see how much people whom never have been on the Moon seem to know about the place.

how ironic, i bet a million trillion obama dollars you have never been their..

man ... im not posting any more of this, your like one of these new breed of smart trolls, who instead of calling people names tries to sound pretentious ... mission acomplished, i hope they hit the spot where all your moon pals live..

dare i say it - death to all Pleiadian - as all Pleiadian seem to also be master forum trolls!!! and they annoy the crap outa me, maybe theirs a reason people wanna wipe out the Pleiadian ..! LMAO ..

sorry mods for that outburst ... but what i quoted just set me off due to its absolute retardedness,!

[you have been officialy bitchslapped on 7-9-2009 by boaby_phet]



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Asteroids strike the moon at random locations and times. We know exactly where and when LCROSS will hit. There will be a lot of instruments trained on the site.

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He claims to have posted photos of his teleportation experiences, but now can't get in touch with the person who has the photos?!?

Story is beginning to fall apart, again. As usual. AND, sounding remarkably similar to another bloke from South America...read through this OP's posts, you can see the pattern. Here, from page three:

Originally posted by IX-777
In fact, the secret of teleportation goes as far back as traced history, the first account of it I am aware of relates to ancient sumerian texts - and no not any Zaccharia Sitchin translations, but completely independently done translations, and the phenomena is recorded throughout history.

Personally my involvement lead me to having to leave my country almost 5 years ago as I was harassed by governments, got false charges against me, and they were really interested in getting me shut off so to speak. That alone proves to me that other things I have not directly experienced myself but had other governmental persons tell me about most likely must be true, and one of my main contacts himself "disappeared" without any trace, rather suddenly.

OK, now we need the Sumerian experts to refute the claims about Sumerian texts and teleportation --- shouldn't be too difficult.

NOW, the assertion of being forced to run from home country? Oh, well that certainly lends authenticity! ALL in the form of ultra-paranoid super-secret "I'm better than you because I have inside knowledge" fantasy strategies.

I must say, this one has either learned a better grasp of English, or has a newer translation program, or has an accomplice.