Heaven is Space/ Angels are Aliens

reply to post by Agree2Disagree


Why what? Why are Aliens masquerading as Angels or why are Angels masquerading as Aliens? I don't have the answer to those questions.... however i'd like to ask another question....

why are these Angels/Aliens taking so long to sort out the mess which they have have come to clear up? If they have been present on Earth or around Earth for Centuries and more recently a lot of activity has been atributed to them then why are they taking so long?

Also does the Law of physics which is 'what goes up must come down' apply to Jeses Christ and his Angels/Aliens?

So applying this Law..... will there be a second coming?

reply to post by Agree2Disagree


Good points. But since we only know the laws of physics, we can only make intelligent, scientific hypotheses by applying our knowledge of physics to explain the unknown. I cannot hypothesize a scientific theory by supernatural means. The laws of physics exist for a reason. They maintain balance throughout the universe. If something appears to break physics, it is only because it is not fully understood. It would be foolish to throw away our scientific knowledge when trying to understand the unknown, just because it SEEMS like it is magic or supernatural. By the way, I am in no way trying to diminish the portrayed power or existence of God.

Reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist

The only thing I can think of that could possibly answer your question would be our perception of time. Perhaps, being around for a MUCH longer time has affected their views of "time". It says in biblica text that to God a day is 1000 years and 1000 years like a day. If aliens areangels, vice vrsa, they would have a similar outlook, yes?

As for my initial question - I was wondering why it is easier for some to view biblical angels as aliens versus viewing todays aliens as biblical angels...


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I was talking to a family member on this subject and she brought the topic up to her husband....

He wants to refute with me....

Why?

He feels that if the Bible had aliens in it, it would SAY ALIEN instead of angel...



I will quickly hush him up by saying" They did not us the same vocabulary as we do, some hundred thousand years later"

It really is very simple....it just appears to religious people as complicated and crazy-talk because they actually look for our modern terms to be in the bible....

but they call ME crazy....

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Reply to post by OrphenFire

I agree but just because that is the only thing we can apply to TRY to make sense of it all, it doesn't mean those laws actually APPLY...

sorry if that is confusing...

a2d


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I get the same response when I question UFologists about whether or not "aliens" could actually be biblical angels. It's almost as if Ufology has become a "religion" of its own.


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Gen 3:15 gave us the first messianic prophecy:
And I will put enmity between you (satan) and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.

At that point we can safely say satan knew of messiah coming. I don't know if it was a point of discussion between Yahweh and satan when the angels fell prior to this. But the main point I wanted to bring up is that satan has seed. ET's are malevolent; they lie, John 8:44. They are from the line of satan.

It's a clear cut case: any type of et abduction gets thwarted when you call on the name of Jesus.

reply to post by Agree2Disagree


Ok, well maybe it's because Angels are not physical and also they would have no need for flying machines if they have wings!! That's my possible answer to your question..... especially if we are to view pictures of Angels as being the real deal.... they are visible but not physical!

Secondly what you say about 1000 years being a day could make sense.... this means that only 2 days have passed since Jesus died!! If you apply your interpretation.....

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Reply to post by Good2Go

You could just as well say Man is the seed of Satan. Man is malevolent, they lie also. Man has done more atrocities in this world than any "ET".


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Reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist

sorry friend, wrong way to apply my interpretation.

Jesus died as a MAN.

To God, sure, it may seem that He gave his only Son to us 2 days ago...but to man 2000 years is still 2000 years.

My suggestion that 1000 days is 1 day only applies to those that don't already have a lasting interpretation of "time", i.e. NOT HUMANS.


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It isn't confusing. I think it could be like this:



Show a 2nd Grader who knows basic math (add, subtract, even multiply). Tell him to solve the equation the best way he knows. He recognizes numbers, and function symbols (+, -), but he has NO IDEA really how to solve it. So he uses his best knowledge of math to try to figure out the problem. His answer is probably wrong. So you could be right, A2D. But wouldn't that also make me right?

Reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Eureka!

I may have just thought of a better analogy.

We say the Earth is "young" correct? With young meaning millions/billions of years. So why then do you think that aliens/angels are taking "so long"? Perhaps they've only just begun.

I am realy enjoying this thread btw. If I could I would S&F, but alas, I'm mobile...


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I cannot view that imbedded image via my mobile, however, I think I understand your analogy. And yes, I do believe that both you and I could be correct. That is, of course, because I believe in what I call "personal truths". I won't get into it too deep for fear of derailing the thread, but I believe in the old buddistic addage:

"we are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts we make our reality" - roughly quoted

(i replace "thoughts" with "beliefs")


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There is a very interesting article on Earthfiles about this topic. In summary of what i read so far is that these aliens are not to be trusted. Linda howes interviews in 1997 are being released on her website called "Non-Human Entities (NHEs):
One View from Alleged Government Insiders " her article is a very eyeopening event of the entire demonic/angel side to the alien agenda. I have always questioned the bible and now we seem to be approaching the truth about Man - god - heaven - hell. www.earthfiles.com...

Reply to post by maddogron

Again, it seems that the ufology community can seriously undermine the religious community(not at all saying they are trying to, just that there is the possibility). Perhaps THAT is the alien agenda? Perhaps aliens are not angels, but in fact are demons and are doing very well in undermining religious texts. It seems to be a two-sided blade, IMHO.


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Originally posted by Agree2Disagree
Reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist

 

Eureka!

I may have just thought of a better analogy.

We say the Earth is "young" correct? With young meaning millions/billions of years. So why then do you think that aliens/angels are taking "so long"? Perhaps they've only just begun.

I am realy enjoying this thread btw. If I could I would S&F, but alas, I'm mobile...

 

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That was pretty funny about the 'days to 1000 years thing' and i have starred your post! You can star mine later

Again if your theory is correct then it would definately make sense..... although doesn't that mean that they would have to be extremely fast at what they do and learn?

BTW i did mean 2 days in Gods days!

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Reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Again, it's a double edged blade here as well.

1000 years a day AND a day 1000 years. Very fast or very slow. All it really means is that time has no bearing, so to speak, on their behaviour. Atleast that's how I interpret it anyways.


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Originally posted by Agree2Disagree
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Again, it's a double edged blade here as well.

1000 years a day AND a day 1000 years. Very fast or very slow. All it really means is that time has no bearing, so to speak, on their behaviour. Atleast that's how I interpret it anyways.

 

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Ok, then we must really look at this as being 1000 years as i don't believe any Alien lifeform would be able to do what they have done in 2 days! But still...... they are faster than us either way you look at it.....

The Bible talks about multiple heavens and such an example is 2 Corinthians 12:2. If you're of Judaic thought you can tack on four more for a grand total of seven. Personally, I believe 'aliens' are fallen malak (angels) which would make them 'devils', but I don't believe they are demons as I believe demons are the spirits of Nephillim.

Reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Honestly, I don't think they are "faster" than us. We are actually a very intelligent race, we're just not very cooperative. Aliens have undoubtedly had years and years of evolution or development on us. I simply think it's a matter of length of existence.

Say you have two colonies of ants. Doesn't matter same species or not. You let one start colonisng first and they're going to grow and prosper. Then introduce the 2nd colony. That initial colony of ants undoubtedly dwarfs the latter in "ant technology" if you will.


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