Andromedan Presence near Earth [pt. 1]

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by Rubicant13
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Wouldn't that mean that you look different than us and have a different anatomy?

Not necessarily. I'm human, just not terrestrial.

ETA: well except an adult of my species stands between 4 and 5 meters. That is a noticable difference. Although, Sirians, are identical in appearance to Terrestrials.

edit on 15-8-2012 by AnthraAndromda because: (no reason given)

4 to 5 meters is twelve to 15 feet tall. You in no way can be that tall.

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
reply to post by Spruk

 

Okay. and, I was already aware that my Y-STR appears nrmal for a human. But, then, I am Human, just not terrestrial. Sirians are human too, as are Aldebarans, and many, many others. All of their is likely to look just like yours, but, there are differences.

I have said it before, so again isn't a problem; there isn't enough data there to make it obvious.

However, if you carefully analyze the data, keeping ancestry in mind, you will find that mine is rather ... impossible. And, I beleive there is enough data present to show that.

Then you are going to have to point it out. The STR-Y and the STR (which took longer for me to look at), are indeed Homo Sapien.

BUT, what you are saying is "you are a homo sapien not born on this planet", is this correct?

Edit - @Rubicant13 - Not on a human muscle and skeletal structure (which is linked to our genome of course!) could handle given the gravity etc.

Originally posted by Rubicant13

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by Rubicant13
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

Wouldn't that mean that you look different than us and have a different anatomy?

Not necessarily. I'm human, just not terrestrial.

ETA: well except an adult of my species stands between 4 and 5 meters. That is a noticable difference. Although, Sirians, are identical in appearance to Terrestrials.

edit on 15-8-2012 by AnthraAndromda because: (no reason given)

4 to 5 meters is twelve to 15 feet tall. You in no way can be that tall.

True, and I'm not an adult either.

I am only 65, my mother, who is considered rather young (about mid 20's) is over 900.

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Whats your age then?
2nd

Originally posted by QuantumQuackers
reply to post by SplitInfinity

 

Simple logic dictates that opening a line of Communication between two Alien Races would first attempt to convey SIMPLE CONCEPTS

Simple human logic would state that simple human logic is entirely out of school regarding simple alien logic...if such a thing actually exists.

Unless I am missing something about your EBE heritage or unusual psychic abilities, if so, please inform.

YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD! THIS...is what I am trying to get across to him! Human Logic would be Alien to them as well as Their E.T. Logic would be Alien to US! The only way for even Telepathic Communication to be able to transfer back and forth Concepts and Ideas and basic information is if a TEMPLATE OF UNDERSTANDING is first established.

The Probability that an Alien Race even has the same Biological Senses such as Eyes, Nose, Ears...as even many life forms on planet Earth have different ways of using Senses and different Sensory Organs such as a Snake used it's Tongue to be able to sense Heat or IR-Light. Various Insects use Antenna for various uses such as detecting Odors, Touch, Orientation, Taste, Detection of Moisture...etc...is remote.

The only form of developing an understanding between two Alien Species even with the use of Telepathy is FIRST understanding how each Count and what Numerical Base system each use. Face it...if an Alien species was telepathically trying to convey the quantity of 63 as this would represent say...a person being the 23rd attempt at contact...and they telepathically convey their word for 63 or place a picture in your head of 63 dots...people can barely count more than 9 items by a glance and unless these 63 dots were placed in rows and lets say they use a BASE 11 NUMERICAL SYSTEM so they would place the dots in 5 rows of 11 and 1 row of 8 in a picture in your mind...what would that mean to you and what if they don't use rows but 5 patterns with 11 dots and a special pattern with 8? And say they gave you this picture for 20 seconds...could you count it? Would you count it? And what if their star was a Red Giant and they had eyes but color to them would not be seen like color to us or perhaps their eyes even in a Sun like ours only see shades of Black and White so how could you convey BLUE or RED to them? The REAL TELL to the true Veracity of your post is when you said they were called ANDROMEDAN. They would somehow know our Mythology? They would call themselves something that has NO RELATION TO THEIR PERSPECTIVE nor is it the name used for their Galaxy which is M-31 and why would a Race name itself after a GALAXY that is behind in position by about 2.5 MILLION LIGHT YEARS of some stars that we named the Constellation of Andromeda? It would be like us saying...Hi! I am a MILKY WAYAN! I am only from one planet of one star of a Galaxy consisting of HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF STARS...but we call ourselves MILKY WAYANS! I hate to be rude but this is just plain stupid! I know E.T. to be a REALITY and I wish I didn't but one thing I know....E.T.'s are NOT STUPID! Split Infinity

Please forgive my slip of replying in part to the Author of this topic when I replied to YOUR POST. I got carried away! LOL! Sorry. Split Infinity

Originally posted by Spruk

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
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Okay. and, I was already aware that my Y-STR appears nrmal for a human. But, then, I am Human, just not terrestrial. Sirians are human too, as are Aldebarans, and many, many others. All of their is likely to look just like yours, but, there are differences.

I have said it before, so again isn't a problem; there isn't enough data there to make it obvious.

However, if you carefully analyze the data, keeping ancestry in mind, you will find that mine is rather ... impossible. And, I beleive there is enough data present to show that.

Then you are going to have to point it out. The STR-Y and the STR (which took longer for me to look at), are indeed Homo Sapien.

BUT, what you are saying is "you are a homo sapien not born on this planet", is this correct?

Look at the "ethnic" properties. Please don't say that information isn't in there; it is (well, unless your database doesn't contain it ... pperhaps it is bes I don't comment on such a database)

No, I'm not saying I'm "homo Sapien" that is a terrestrial "term" that is translated as "Terrestrial Human" by most ETs. What I am is an "Andromedan Human" and that is very vague. I still have the misfortune of not being able to speak my native language, and that part that I do know is nearly impossible to type. (ya know ... this sucks). I'll have to talk to mother about more language lessions. No, but, seriously, I need to fix that.

Edit - @Rubicant13 - Not on a human muscle and skeletal structure (which is linked to our genome of course!) could handle given the gravity etc

You would be surprised! These muscles, skeleton can handle the reduced gravety just fine. And, you would have no problems in a range of at least .5g to nearly 3g.That would cover any of the home worlds of other ETs currently "visiting"

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Then you are going to have to point it out. The STR-Y and the STR (which took longer for me to look at), are indeed Homo Sapien.

BUT, what you are saying is "you are a homo sapien not born on this planet", is this correct?

Look at the "ethnic" properties. Please don't say that information isn't in there; it is (well, unless your database doesn't contain it ... pperhaps it is bes I don't comment on such a database)

No, I'm not saying I'm "homo Sapien" that is a terrestrial "term" that is translated as "Terrestrial Human" by most ETs. What I am is an "Andromedan Human" and that is very vague. I still have the misfortune of not being able to speak my native language, and that part that I do know is nearly impossible to type. (ya know ... this sucks). I'll have to talk to mother about more language lessions. No, but, seriously, I need to fix that.

Edit - @Rubicant13 - Not on a human muscle and skeletal structure (which is linked to our genome of course!) could handle given the gravity etc

You would be surprised! These muscles, skeleton can handle the reduced gravety just fine. And, you would have no problems in a range of at least .5g to nearly 3g.That would cover any of the home worlds of other ETs currently "visiting"

Dont need to look into that at all. The proof is in the STR-Y, and the allele count , you're claim that you live longer AND are taller would tell me this, this means you'd have more alleles, under a completely different helix, thus your STR-Y would be completely different (or even if it existed in the current form for the homo sapien species.

In short, if another race was a cabon copy human, we' both be the same species exactly. The law of genetic drift proves that (Species "drift" from sub-species to sub-species). So for you to be saying "oh im a human from another galaxy/planet/realm/dimension" is entirely inaccurate for the human genome, which your STR-Y data states you are.

reply to post by SplitInfinity


You are soooo wrong!

Telepathy can transfer very large aounts of information instantly. And, ALL lifeforms share the same sort of life expirences. Thus Telepathy becomes a preferred manner of communication, expecially in a "first contact" context. Without telepathy we would all have difficulty counicating. You need to know that telepathy does not use language as we know it.

The whole idea that alien life MUST be different that Terrestrial life is a common misconception. Human is the most common species in the Universe, and we are all so alike that it is impossible for many early technological cultures to detect any differences. Earth is barely beyond that point.

You, as a species, have many misconceptions about alien life, and you seem to insist on staying misinformed, you seem to prefer your misconceptions over reality.

I don't feel that you know much about logic. There is no "human logic", or "alien logic"; there is only logic. Logic is universal, like the laws of Physics, Science, and Math.; logic is the same for all.

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So with the telepathy thing, you can send a message to anyone, even if they NEVER used the ability before?

Originally posted by Spruk
Dont need to look into that at all. The proof is in the STR-Y, and the allele count

, you're claim that you live longer AND are taller would tell me this, this means you'd have more alleles, under a completely different helix, thus your STR-Y would be completely different (or even if it existed in the current form for the homo sapien species.

In short, if another race was a cabon copy human, we' both be the same species exactly. The law of genetic drift proves that (Species "drift" from sub-species to sub-species). So for you to be saying "oh im a human from another galaxy/planet/realm/dimension" is entirely inaccurate for the human genome, which your STR-Y data states you are

Oh but you do!

Would it? Do you really have the data t determine that? Have terrestrials biologists "seen" enough to decide that? How many samples of "alien" DNA have been analyized, and has that data ever been released into the scientific community?

The reality is; you know nothing about alien biology, DNA, or anything else. And, you seem to reject opportunities to learn.

Now, go and look into the population associations of my autosomal.

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


Thats where the problem exists. You state that homo sapiens are the most common genome in the galaxy/universe. Here in lies the problem.

The probability of this happening is next to none, by next i mean "next" and "none" have moved in together. If any of the resident math wizards would like to go over that, that would be awesome. Sadly it is very much outside of my level of expertise.

The thing with genetic evolution is you change one small aspect (so average temp and/or weather) and you could wind up with a completely different genome or/and sub-species. Hell we have it right now just looking at the bone structures of human beings, they are distinct depending on region we are from.

Seems to me like this should be moved to the hoax forum.

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Then where is your autosomal chart?

I've looked on your website and all i see is the Allele count(s) (as i've said before).

Originally posted by HomerinNC
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

So with the telepathy thing, you can send a message to anyone, even if they NEVER used the ability before?

Telepathy is a strange thing. In most people it simply isn't a reliable way of comunication.

I've notices, in me, thatI have to near someone for it to work, whether they are aware of any telepathic ability or not. I was, a few onths ago, limited to people I actualy knew well, but, I've been haveing expirences in public lately with complete strangers, though I still have to see them first. Pat of the learning process I suppose.

The rest of the learning process seems harder than my two master's degrees. One has to learn to separate themselves from the comunication. Remove all traces of ego, all preconceptions, emotion, and other idea that might "color" the translation from the sub-conscious to the conscious.

Anyway, probably no, unless I could "see" them first. And, with that, I think it would be unreliable, at best. At least for now, perhaps when I have had more expirence?

Originally posted by Spruk
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

Then where is your autosomal chart?

I've looked on your website and all i see is the Allele count(s) (as i've said before).

It is on the website along with the Y-STR.

I agree with another poster. This should be placed in the HOAX category. If there was even one thing said by the author that would lend veracity to this topic I would not say that but there...to my knowledge has not been.

The claims are so absurd and so unscientific in all aspects of this topic that it...in my opinion...does a disservice to people who may have actually had some contact or experience with an Alien Race. This type of Topic is what some of the folks at the "AGENCY" drool after...that being....someone who is doing their job for them by making everyone who has had an E.T. experience or even making people who Believe that E.T. Races are visiting Earth...look like NUT JOBS!

This is why I have said before that the "AGENCY" does not need to have Dis-Info Agents work this board as some people are doing a fine job all on their own of making what I wish to be a Board of Discovery and Discussion of Ideals and Experiences...into a LAUGHING STOCK. This makes me sad to think about it.

Split Infinity

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You mean here on the right?

To the right i see an Allele count, that is incomplete. A full autosomal test is 22/23 genes, no professional will EVER supply a partial. Since i if the PCR gives back ANYTHING but a complete set of dna they will throw the sample and request a new one as it was clearly tainted.

The markers represent a person who is most likely of South Asian (India) decent, which, in and of itself is not too unlikely. However, Anthra’s phenotype is very European in nature (Light skin, light hair, dark Blue eyes, typical Anglo-Saxon). [These results were obtained using software that matched DNA markers to known Human populations].

Heres the kicker, i will give you two scenarios that everyone can happily google.
First Case: heterochromia - I have a friend who has this, and i can tell you despite being absolutely stunning, both her parents are have brown eyes. Hers? One blue, One brown. (Personal)

Second Case: A black couple has a child who is white skinned, and blue eyes.

Third Case: A white couple give birth too a child who is black skinned, and dark brown eyes. Parents have anglo-saxon physical markers.

I can confirm ALL children have been STR tested, and parentage is confirmed, all thee children ARE directly related to the parents (so no cheating/outside interference).

So ladies and Gentleman unless there are any other questions, i think i shall file this one under "Genetic Anomoly, but is earth born".

Originally posted by Spruk
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

Thats where the problem exists. You state that homo sapiens are the most common genome in the galaxy/universe. Here in lies the problem.

That is what I thought a year ago, fund out it's not so.

I did not say "homo sapien" was the most comon, I said "human". Think of it as a sort of generic thing. Kind of like your Dog, and my Wolf. They are the same species, with nearly identical DNA, yet they are vastly different. Humans are no different reardless of home world.

The probability of this happening is next to none, by next i mean "next" and "none" have moved in together. If any of the resident math wizards would like to go over that, that would be awesome. Sadly it is very much outside of my level of expertise.

Unfortunately, I would be one of those "Math wizards", but, I wouldn't attempt that probability problem unless there was a strong reqirement.

The thing with genetic evolution is you change one small aspect (so average temp and/or weather) and you could wind up with a completely different genome or/and sub-species. Hell we have it right now just looking at the bone structures of human beings, they are distinct depending on region we are from.

Yes I know. You should see an Aldebaran; they couldn't blend well with a terrestrial population. Their skin is nearly "white" (I don't mean "white" like a caucasian, but "white" as in the reflection of all spectra. They have elongated limbs, Terrestrials call them "tall whites".

Sirians are nearly indistinguishable from terrestrials, as are Capellans. Pleiadians are like a rather tall Terrestrial. There are Felines, Apes, Canines that are nearly indistinguishable from Terrestrials.

Many have evolved into a sub-species of Human. Terrestrial ideas and theories of genetics is still in its infantcy, so at present, you simply don't know. Given time, that will change.

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by Spruk
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

Thats where the problem exists. You state that homo sapiens are the most common genome in the galaxy/universe. Here in lies the problem.

That is what I thought a year ago, fund out it's not so.

I did not say "homo sapien" was the most comon, I said "human". Think of it as a sort of generic thing. Kind of like your Dog, and my Wolf. They are the same species, with nearly identical DNA, yet they are vastly different. Humans are no different reardless of home world.

The probability of this happening is next to none, by next i mean "next" and "none" have moved in together. If any of the resident math wizards would like to go over that, that would be awesome. Sadly it is very much outside of my level of expertise.

Unfortunately, I would be one of those "Math wizards", but, I wouldn't attempt that probability problem unless there was a strong reqirement.

The thing with genetic evolution is you change one small aspect (so average temp and/or weather) and you could wind up with a completely different genome or/and sub-species. Hell we have it right now just looking at the bone structures of human beings, they are distinct depending on region we are from.

Yes I know. You should see an Aldebaran; they couldn't blend well with a terrestrial population. Their skin is nearly "white" (I don't mean "white" like a caucasian, but "white" as in the reflection of all spectra. They have elongated limbs, Terrestrials call them "tall whites".

Sirians are nearly indistinguishable from terrestrials, as are Capellans. Pleiadians are like a rather tall Terrestrial. There are Felines, Apes, Canines that are nearly indistinguishable from Terrestrials.

Many have evolved into a sub-species of Human. Terrestrial ideas and theories of genetics is still in its infantcy, so at present, you simply don't know. Given time, that will change.

edit on 16-8-2012 by AnthraAndromda because: (no reason given)

I love how the burden of proof rests on your story, and not on the guy giving you scientific evidence as to why your claims are bogus. You have been debunked completely.