Andromedan Presence near Earth [pt. 1]

Originally posted by Rubicant13
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

Wouldn't that mean that you look different than us and have a different anatomy?

Not necessarily. I'm human, just not terrestrial.

ETA: well except an adult of my species stands between 4 and 5 meters. That is a noticable difference. Although, Sirians, are identical in appearance to Terrestrials.

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


How do you know you are extraterrestrial then?

reply to post by AnthraAndromda

hey maybe we should meet, i'm an hybrid , and i relay hate human race they are disgusting , in fact i hate the univers... you are full of ... nevermind i will find another thread...

Originally posted by Rubicant13
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

How do you know you are extraterrestrial then?

Was told, by my biological other.

In 1994 she returned to Earth proximity, I was taken aboard her ship, and while viewing Earth from 100,000km she related most of the details.

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


You know, until you provide proof behind your words, no one, and i repeat; no one will ever believe you. I could tell people on here I am actually a T100 terminator like my avatar, but without proof it's just a story.

You should consider, I'm a covert andramadan and was testing you. You failed. I will be hailing all ships to inform them of an imposter (you).

I even have a working transmitter, made out of coconuts (just like on Gilligan's island). Now where did I put that piece of string???

The high council will not be pleased with you. Nope, not one bit.

Lol.

ok, cool well if it does come down to you guys starting a war, can I be on your side?

not saying I don't believe you but I have mental problems and frequent psychiatrists too (although none of whom are extra-terrestrial, if you can get me an appointment with you et doc, i would be eternally greatfull)
and I also believe i'm not from this planet WHEN I'M UNWELL! (mabey you should return to the doctor) I have had several people tell me i'm plieadian but i still need proof. by the way there was a man in melbourne who had intercourse with a plieadian female and ripped out some of her hair, he took for dna testing which confirmed it was not human (sorry guys no link for this it was just a doco i saw on tv bout 2 years ago) Oh and by the way I'm also the lord Jesus Christ.... think i'll get drunk and beat up some midgets

NO BUT SERIOUSLY! rock up on my doorstep, vapourize me, cut my head off whatever, after all nothing says "obey me" like a bloody head on a fence post!

Love, Light and all that crap.....

Originally posted by Rubicant13
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

You know, until you provide proof behind your words, no one, and i repeat; no one will ever believe you. I could tell people on here I am actually a T100 terminator like my avatar, but without proof it's just a story.

No, less than a story. It's easy to prove you are biological. And I can use the same faulty logic that most use to attempt to debunk me. All I have to do is limit the data I use for consideration.

reply to post by AnthraAndromda

Then prove you are an Andromedan. How does one prove what you say you are?

Originally posted by acidsweep
You should consider, I'm a covert andramadan and was testing you. You failed. I will be hailing all ships to inform them of an imposter (you).

I even have a working transmitter, made out of coconuts (just like on Gilligan's island). Now where did I put that piece of string???

The high council will not be pleased with you. Nope, not one bit.

Lol.

edit on 15-8-2012 by acidsweep because: (no reason given)

Good, I impatiently await trial.

Seriously yuo should look at all the data first.

Originally posted by Rubicant13
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

Then prove you are an Andromedan. How does one prove what you say you are?

Sure; go to my website, read all the data. Consider the probabilities (don't just "think about them. Do the MATH), leave out nothing.

Understand, that yo may have to get a basic education in molecular biology, genetics, and mathematics, maybe physics too. But, hey; I did it, so I know it can be done, wasn't all that difficult either.

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


Without looking to far into your website, one obvious conclusion remains. Your DNA must be somehow molecularly different. Have it tested.

reply to post by AnthraAndromda

1. Well, actually there are several databases. They are scattered and specialized, for instance YHRD only has Y-DNA, there are others which cover autosmal, MtDNA, and others.

I dont know how many times i have to say this: "There is NOT database that contains everyones Y Allele makeup", the DNA sample you supplied is an Allele count, and is NOT a genetic analysis (these two different things). Allele counts simple work out family liniage (so if person A is related to person B and species), the other is a detailed analysis which goes into detail about each allele. To have a database that contains allele counts, yes i have one right on my desk, and it says that "you are of the homo sapien species". For the record the data in my post above with the DNA sample is from one of my books.

2. Vey recent mutation, recent enough that it isn't in the database yet.

- No, as i said you have in there Allele counts, that is all. I wont bore the ATS population with what it is so heres a wiki.

3. Extremely similar Y-DNA to Terrestrials, but, of non-terrestrial orgin.

- This would put you square in the human species. If i was shown a DNA strand (YSTR) with an extra Allele set it would be more likely to say "yes there is a chance you are not human (homosapien), but i need the detailed analysis on your YSTR and not the allele count, it could simply be a mutation.", and i'd then have to analyse your full DNA sequence (which would take longer than my natural lifespan).

If in the early days Terrestrials only lived 10 years, there would be no Terrestrial Humans species. So you will need your longer values here. Mutatins don't happen faster in all areas of DNA, this has been shown through a great deal of research. In the Y-DNA, as I understand it, this rate has not changed over the course of Terrestrial history.

- Incorrect, i said 10-30 years, this was a BIOLOGICAL factor(s). When you traverse back in history it becomes rarer that people died of "old age", they died of parasites, bacteria and virii. This is the perfect example of genetic adaption, mutation and evolution i can give you (and still be on topic).

In any case, the fact that my Y signiture does not appear in any database is highly significant. Further the results of the autosomal is also highly significant (I'll not address that yet, I want to see what you have to say)

- As i said your allele counts appear in my book.

Initially it was said 500 generatins, this has been revised to a somewhat lower number. The issue here is; that it the "ancestrial DNA" folk who have degraded the mutation rate. DNA biologists, and real geneticists, seem to refer a larger number here, I'm going with the smaller value, as it gives you a better chance at being correct.

- Who stated this? This is my 'mistake' i was more referring too, but didnt specifically specify. What i meant to say was: "full genetic drift", which would be the starts of a new sub-species. I do aplogise for the confusion.

IRC - The Human Mutation Clock Is Ticking, Brian Thomas, M.S.
More info on Genetic Mutations

For the record:

6×10^9 base pairs/diploid genome x 1 byte/4 base pairs = 1.5×10^9 bytes or 1.5 Gigabytes, about 2 CDs worth of space! Or small enough to fit 3 separate genomes on a standard DVD!

- Source

1.5gb*22,620,600 (est rounded pop of AU in 2011):
33,930,900gb
33930.9tb
33.9309pb

Thats just Australia, i suspect my calculator will explode if i attempt to figure out the storage capactiy it would take to store each human being's full DNA stream.

reply to post by Spruk


It looks like you got him stumped. Haha! Gj!

Originally posted by Rubicant13
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

Without looking to far into your website, one obvious conclusion remains. Your DNA must be somehow molecularly different. Have it tested.

As it turns out; there doesn't have to much difference. The Sirian people are nearly indistinguishable from Terrestrials. Sirians are close enough to Terrestrials that the two can produce hybred off-spring, and, there are Y haplogroups in genetics that are entirely populated by these hybreds. And, thus hundreds of millions of them.

And, I have had some DNA analysis; it's expensive, slow, I'm not convinced that they employ adiquate data security, and other issues. None the less, I have had some testing, and may get more in time.

reply to post by Spruk


Yes, I'm aware of those issues.

By the way; my DNA allele is not in your text book. If it was there wuld be a database record; no record.

Have you done a population search for my autsomal yet? It may reveal soething.

You should understand, that the amount of data in any Human DNA means very little to me. At the data sized you have specified, my system wouldn't notice. The methods and techniques I am using for my analysis are tried and proven data analysis. They are telling me something quite different.

Oh, by the way you would need: 10,500,000,000,000,000,000 bytes about 10.5 million terabytes. Gee, thats only 6 million disk drives.

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
reply to post by Spruk

 

Yes, I'm aware of those issues.

By the way; my DNA allele is not in your text book. If it was there wuld be a database record; no record.

Have you done a population search for my autsomal yet? It may reveal soething.

You should understand, that the amount of data in any Human DNA means very little to me. At the data sized you have specified, my system wouldn't notice. The methods and techniques I am using for my analysis are tried and proven data analysis. They are telling me something quite different.

Oh, by the way you would: 10,500,000,000,000,000,000 bytes about 10.5 million terabytes. Gee, thats only 6 million disk drives.

edit on 15-8-2012 by AnthraAndromda because: (no reason given)

Which allele is not in my text book. Please be specific. In my original post i mapped your alleles into the existing YSTR structure from my text book, aslong with their associated DNA Sequence, and the upper and lower ranges. So i'm sorry please tell me what in your STR-Y is not in my text book?

Edit - As for hte disk comment, i stand by my point, its unfeasable, the amount of power + computing power would be impossible under the current level of computer tech. EVEN if you outfit it with full fibre and SSD's the storage controllers attached to the grids would be very unstable, then sitting a database on it the math is simple, your 6 million drives become 12 million drives (couple in TranLogs).

reply to post by Spruk


You made it sound as though you found in your book the complete identical dataset (record). In as much as that data record is not in any database, I find it difficult to accept.

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
reply to post by Spruk

 

You made it sound as though you found in your book the complete identical dataset (record). In as much as that data record is not in any database, I find it difficult to accept.

I'm sorry you misread what i said. I'll re-phrase it: "I have found all of your Alleles you have posted in my book, since they are sorted in Alphabetical order. If you where a mutant or non-human your allele counts would either be incorrect with the sequences i have, (ie- extra pairs as an example)." However as i said your Alleles in your STR-Y are within the normal.

reply to post by Spruk


Okay. and, I was already aware that my Y-STR appears nrmal for a human. But, then, I am Human, just not terrestrial. Sirians are human too, as are Aldebarans, and many, many others. All of their is likely to look just like yours, but, there are differences.

I have said it before, so again isn't a problem; there isn't enough data there to make it obvious.

However, if you carefully analyze the data, keeping ancestry in mind, you will find that mine is rather ... impossible. And, I beleive there is enough data present to show that.