Ancient Alien , History Channel

Originally posted by Pathos
xSHINIx,

I want to thank you for sharing these videos. I do not think modern man gives primitive man any credit. If I had to place a wager on the past, I would look at man itself for the answers. I think mankind made these pieces of work without alien intervention.

ok ... explain HOW

because UNTIL TODAY, we dont have a CLUE how EVERYTHING was MADE ...

crazy huh?

cool post and im sure it is a interesting group of videos i hope to watch eventually

but what i really hope the most

is that this doesnt turn out to be like the last thread about the history channel

a completely useless thread doing nothing more then advertising for the channel and taking up space on the home page here on ats

it seems like it took forever to get the last one off the main page

reply to post by Faiol


I have a pretty good clue how they were built.
2nd line.

Definately a must see, thanks for doing the leg work for us buddy.

I saw this documentry and it blew my mind! I didn't know all these complex stone structures existed and the part that baffles my mind the most is how the hell did these ancient ancestor build these things?

I mean we do need to credit our selves as a species because architectually speaking we build even more complex structures today made out of glass and steel.

The one structure with the horizontal holes tht look like they were drilled into the rock are quite amazing because how would we have created those holes without some sort of drill? What did we use sticks with rocks attached to it? How else did we transfer tons of stone over miles?

I watched this about a month ago i think when it was first on and it was really cool. Does any one know where i can download or read erick don vanikan's book?Chariots of the gods?

SO I don't know if you guys read that pendulum post but indeed I do have a crystal pendulum who seemed to pick me when I attended this new age store with my mother one day. It is very accurate and I feel this heated energy field whenever I use it or when it spins. I swear it is out of this world! I was intrigued by this discussion so I asked it the following questions

1) Was Puma Punku created by man?
Pendulum Answer - No

2) Did E.T.s created Puma Punku?
Pendulum Answer - Yes (A very strong yes)

3) Did E.T.s destroy Puma Punku?
Pendulum Answer - Yes (Another strong yes)

4)Was Puma Punku created for man?
Pendulum Answer - Yes/maybe

very intriguing! I am not making this up so take this seriously guys!

reply to post by tmayhew01


I believe that part 7 refers to Puma Punku, a very interesting place indeed. Look it up and check out some of the other intricate stone work. Very precise for the time. It really made me wonder.



Just read the rest of the thread and realized it had already been said........IE....Puma Punku. But check it out anyway.........

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reply to post by demonseed


I was wondering when somebody would post about this particular show on the History channel. On some of my comments I've made reference to it. I saw this special back in July, and it was great. You can go to other websites or google Puma Punku and find out information about this area. When I saw that cut in the Diarite stone that had also holes inside, That amazed me. For the simple fact that it couldn't have been done with stone and chisel. Also as the one greek guy made comment about this area being more of a puzzle, because how in gods name did they move these hundred ton or more blocks in this area where there are know trees to move the blocks (if it was at all possible) also the blocks that where cut like leggos shows skill for a people he said that didn't have writing. The debunkers can't have it both ways, they can't say the ancient tribe people of that time that lived in that area didn't have writing, but where able to build and move and construct massive megolithic structures that have the look of machining on much of it's surfaces.

Now we know that almost all cultures have a flooding story at the start of the new world or time. How could that have happened. There is one theorists that said it couldhave been a "vapor layer" that surrounded the planet in very ancient times and some cataclysmic shift of the poles made it dump massive amounts of rain. The other one is the Ice Ball earth where the earth back in 850 million years old to 650 million years ago was an ice ball and over the course of 200 million years volcanoes added enough CO2 to the atmosphere that it started a greenhouse effect that just made the ice continue to melt for centuries and it was raining for centuries also. I believe that we are survivors of an ancient civilization that span the whole planet and quite possibly the moon and mars back tens of thousands of years ago. The glaciers during the last Ice Age where 3 to 4 km thick (even where todays New York City would be located). This in turn made the sea level drop to at least 120 meters, thats alot of water missing. In so doing much of the land we see that wis coral or underwater was out and out dry land and the coastline extended many miles if not more into the ocean of today. And to be honest with you I believe that the sea level was alot lower than 120 meters they posted, because 3 to 4 km of ice is alot of water for the ice and also there has to be water that would still be in the air also. So I'm thinking that the sea level may have been 200 meters to 300 meters lower than what they say. Once the melt started it wasn't unform and much of the melting ice was on the surface of the glaciers or inside the glaciers (much of the glacier walls where acting like a dam. And when one would break, massive and I do mean massive amounts of water would come crashing through to inundate the land (it happened in the great plains).

This flood of many or a very massive one that connected many water sources throughout the glacier would have drowned out any remnants of a civilization that was about (remember, many civilizations where built close to bodies of water). So Imagine water receding by a thousand feet all over the planet, now imagine what the planet would look like. Well for one Indonesia wouldn't be a bunch of islands that's for sure (Isn't that area where Lemur is supposed to have been?). Also people wondered if ancients where advanced, why didn't they build skyscrapers, And I say why should they. To be honest stone is a very supportive and durable structure to make something out of, and it will last a long time. Besides, if we where able to move massive tonnage by either sound or antigravity would we make massive stone construction also.

reply to post by xXCalieXx

I mean we do need to credit our selves as a species because architectually speaking we build even more complex structures today made out of glass and steel.

No we don't.
The Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt is the most complex and perfect building on the planet. And it has been there for a very, very long time.

Can anyone tell me why after just 13 hours this topic was taken off of the top of ATS. I have never seen them react this fast in moving a topic off of the frond page so quickly.

Can anyone tell me why after just 13 hours this topic was taken off of the top of ATS. I have never seen them react this fast in moving a topic off of the frond page so quickly.

reply to post by hoghead cheese


It is no conspiracy.
Their "top page" system works on posts and flags per hour, or whatever system they use.

I was thrilled when I saw one of my threads reach the top. But it was there only briefly. I didn't scream conspiracy. I decided that I needed to write something else that was on my mind. Along the same thought-process.

However, it too was a flop.
Never even made a blip.

Nor do most of my threads.

There is a system they use and I'm not sure what it is, but if you want to get to the top, there are a number of things that must happen.

First and foremost, you must have good stuff.

Hmmm...so lets get this straight...the lines are used for as landing strips because the aliens are flying around around in boeing's///. The bible can be used to confirm Aliens but cannot be used for proof of jesus as the son of god.....believers contradict themselves much. The pictures that can be seen by the air were meant for aline and in no way could have been used to praise whatever gods they had at the time. What complete bull...I want my time back...

good stuff indeed,
Lets look at it for what it is stone.Now if they built walls out steel then I would be amazed.They simply did not have the tech.
Perfect? no such thing,they did a very good job with the tools they had.
What is so hard to understand here?

Awesome series! Thank you for posting these. I am very interested in this subject, and I feel there could definitely be something to this. s&f

Great Post, thanks for the videos

an important reminder how smart humans are,

ancient civilizations shouldn't be overlooked.


this internet thing is pretty good

referencing puma punku (video 7)

thing that comes to my mind while watching that is, where are their trees? did they cut them all down? is it too high of an elevation? where are the closest trees? if they made rafts, what would they make them out of, reeds? any sign of reeds there now? could reed rafts hold the cargo weight?

second thing that comes to mind is an ongoing habitation over many generations. perhaps the area was abandoned or the inhabitants died from the cataclysm that destroyed the structure and later, more inhabitants came that didn't have the same level of stone expertise but decided to stay there because the stone work was so amazing.

what was the purpose for the niches in the walls? the little box inside a box things, they had going on. usually when the ancient people created something that mammoth and complex, there was a purpose. anyone found out if the way it was constructed served any astronomical purpose? that's gotta be the weirdest building i've ever seen for such old stonework in that area.

are the parts that have been dated, the same parts as puma punku or are they including/using dates for tiahuanaco and assuming the puma punku dates are going to be the same? if anyone knows the answer to this, please verify it first before posting an answer.



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context is primary,

what people are thinking at any one time makes the most sense.

so for the reasons behind these structure, we can only speculate


spiritual essence is a grand aspiration,

and to physically make such a symbol,

we make pyramids?


technologies then follow our desires;

the use of reeds, timbers, honey, water.


to power; screws, levers, pulleys.


does it need to be more than that?



imho the greatness is our belief in ourselves,

our striving for a perfection,


and any infrequent visitation by aliens just made sure of this

reply to post by kingoftheworld


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