Swedish paper's organ harvesting article draws Israeli outrageStory Highlights

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler



Whoever wrote that swedish article that you talk about made up the claims. They even lied claiming that the rabbis in New Jersey were a connection to the hoax that Palestinian kids were being kidnapped by Israeli soldiers.

Perhaps you should have done some real research instead of trying to discredit Israel and the Jewish people living there...

I pointed this out in the two articles that were posted in the forums about the claims of the swedish article, and showed that they were lying.

Here is the real story about the rabbis who were selling organs...

Instead, authorities say, he brokered the sale of black-market kidneys, buying organs from vulnerable people from Israel for $10,000 and selling them to desperate patients in the U.S. for as much as $160,000.

www.foxnews.com...

The swedish article was claiming that the organs being sold by these rabbis which were caught in New Jersey was linked to the "CLAIMS" that Israeli soldiers were kidnapping Palestinian children to sell their organs...

So the whole story is nothing more than a hoax..

BTW, yes there are many made up stories by some shady people who want to blame anything and everything on the Jewish people, and on the state of Israel....

But hey, keep making up more lies about this, and keep condemning the Jewish people as well as the state of Israel for what a few bad apples did which had nothing to do with the claims made by the swedish article...




[edit on 22-8-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

BTW, in case you haven't read it yet, the people who were selling their organs, which happened to be Israelis, were brought to the U.S. to undergo the surgery here. These rabbis were taking advantage of their own people, buying a kidney per person for $10,000 and selling each for $160,000 so they were making a profit, and yes it was a despicable thing to do, but you find these sort of people in every walk of life, and from every race and culture...

But some people have to try to use this against Jewish soldiers, and Jewish people as well as the state of Israel itself...

As part of the scheme, the organ donors were brought from Israel to this country, where they underwent surgery to remove the kidneys, authorities said. Prosecutors did not identify which hospitals in the U.S. received the donors and their kidneys.

www.foxnews.com...

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Perhaps you should have researched yourself...my posts before responding to them!

In them I clearly call for an investigation in to the matter and cite why authorities would be better suited for discovering the facts.

You additionally might want to consider that the Rabbi in New York has yet to stand trial! Trials are the place for investigators to present evidence.

Finally the thread is not about the harvest of organs...

It's about the Israeli's Ambassador's response to a Swedish Journalist's editorial in Sweden's free press.

Your third party non official information is not any more valid than anyone else's third party non official information which is why allegations of henious crimes should always be investigated by authorities and all facts presented to courts for the justice system to decide, just like in the case of the New Jersey Rabbi. He to is innocent until a court of law proves him guilty. Professing innocense is part of the legal process, free speech and the free press.

This story is really about Israel's lack of tollerance for the free press and to a lesser extent your own lack of tollerance for a free press.

Nothing and no one should infringe upon the free press, even when it's Israeli's that are accused, even when it's Palestinians making the accusations.

That's called responsible government.

You might want to research that too while you are at it!

Thanks for posting!

[edit on 22/8/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

Here is an article regarding this issue, from Brother Nathanael Kapner. Brother Nathanael grew up and was raised in Judiasm, but converted to Orthodox Christianity.

ORGAN TRAFFICKING IS NOW a multi-million dollar business. Couple this with the Zionists having an obsession for self-preservation and the Jewish Talmud’s view of Arabs being sub-human, Israel emerges as a leading trafficer in the organ transplant business.

The University of Tel Aviv’s Israel Institute for Forensic Medicine, operating under the cover of DNA profiling of “criminals,” (murdered Arab Palestinians), is the prime operator in the organ transplant business.
SEE: Arab Corpse Profiling

Here is what the Talmud says about all non-Jews: “Murdering a Goy is like killing a wild animal.” Sanhedrin 59a; “All Gentile children are animals.” Yebamoth 98a; “The seed of a Goy is the same as the seed of a beast.” Kethuboth 3b

AN EX-ISRAELI ARMY OFFICER, a Geldaya Gadi, was recently arrested in Brazil on suspicion of belonging to an International human kidney trafficking ring. Gadi told the court that Israel financed organ transplants in other countries due to the lack of organ donors in Israel. “The Israeli government is aware of the traffic in organs for patients in its country and pays for all transactions through state funded health plans,” Gady told the court.
SEE: Israeli Organ Agent

The Israel Institute of Forensic Medicine made Scotland news not long ago in the incident of a Scottish tourist in Israel, a Mr Alastair Sinclair, who was said to have “hanged himself” in an Israeli jail. (He was arrested on false charges). The lab not only performed an autopsy on Sinclair but removed a vital organ from his corpse as lucrative “merchandise.” It all came to light when the family of Sinclair found the body returned to them without a heart.
SEE: No Heart (5 paragraphs down).

TAKING A JOB IN ISRAEL in 2002, a Ukranian man died there of poisoning by a tainted alcoholic beverage (even though all domestic sources insist that he never drank.) The body of the unfortunate worker was returned to Ukraine for burial. The body of the man came back missing its heart.

www.realzionistnews.com...

In the Israeli newspaper Haaretz in the answering section there are a few Israelis saying: this could have happened :

Removal of organs from dead Palestinians is no a secret!

Name: Yishai Cohen City: State: Israel

It is a fact that Israeli doctors have been removing organs from Palestinians killed by the IDF without their families permission for many years, so the only question remaining is whether Israeli doctors were doing so as part of the illegal organ trafficking ring involving Israel recently exposed by the arrest of rabbi Izhak Levy Rosenbaum in NYC, and whether the IDF provided organ donor victims as needed.

These organ theft and trafficking accusations must be thoroughly investigated by both Israeli and international law enforcement agencies so they can be either proven to be incorrect or those involved arrested and punished.

www.haaretz.com...

Yeah! this guy is right - I agree!

These organ theft and trafficking accusations must be investigated!

I wouldn't be surprised if there could be some truth to this story, I mean it could have happened - if they shot & killed some guy, why waste the organs if you could make some cash from the killing and in the same time help out a fellow Israeli boy or girl in a desperate need for an organ?

There are a few bad apples in every army! - even Doctors!

Sick!? - yes! very sick! - so sick and crazy of me to even think in this way, sorry! - but nothing surprises me anymore, really - the world has gone mad! especially in the Middle East!

B'shalom!

Peace


[edit on 23-8-2009 by Chevalerous]

Originally posted by Chevalerous
In the Israeli newspaper Haaretz in the answering section there are a few Israelis saying: this could have happened :

Removal of organs from dead Palestinians is no a secret!

Name: Yishai Cohen City: State: Israel

It is a fact that Israeli doctors have been removing organs from Palestinians killed by the IDF without their families permission for many years, so the only question remaining is whether Israeli doctors were doing so as part of the illegal organ trafficking ring involving Israel recently exposed by the arrest of rabbi Izhak Levy Rosenbaum in NYC, and whether the IDF provided organ donor victims as needed.

These organ theft and trafficking accusations must be thoroughly investigated by both Israeli and international law enforcement agencies so they can be either proven to be incorrect or those involved arrested and punished.

www.haaretz.com...

Yeah! this guy is right - I agree!

These organ theft and trafficking accusations must be investigated!

I wouldn't be surprised if there could be some truth to this story, I mean it could have happened - if they shot & killed some guy, why waste the organs if you could make some cash from the killing and in the same time help out a fellow Israeli boy or girl in a desperate need for a organ?

There are a few bad apples in every army! - even Doctors!

Sick!? - yes! very sick! - so sick and crazy of me to even think in this way, sorry! - but nothing surprises me anymore, really - the world has gone mad! especially in the Middle East!

B'shalom!

Peace

Welcome to conspiracy land. The newspaper Haaretz screens and allows anonymous comments below their reported stories.

Anyone who has looked at these comments knows that the paper allows virtually everythng in, including hate comments, strong contradictions of stories, unsourced information.

Anyone thinking about it realizes if there is an attempt to cover anything up, the paper could and would simply not include these comments.

But they're there. No one has anyway to determine if they're actually from real people, if they live in Israel, anything about them.

It's become pretty obvious, from the consistent diction, misspelling, style, there are people posting comments under many different names, always obvious Israeli one.

But, typically, on threads like this, that vital context is removed, to give the completely distorted impression.


Mike

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Everytime some Israelis commit a crime, the propaganda-artists come in lamenting how THE jews are "evil scum".

You see this loop repeated endlessly around here.

I wonder how some of you would feel if people would make you personally responsible for a crime some other American did.

How long are you going to live in denial for? It is up to you and you only. You said "evil scum" as if quoting someone but no one said it. No one blamed all Jews Protoplasmic least of all people.

People blame all Americans ALL the time I have lived in Canada and Europe America is not so high up in our books. Americans are known as lazy, stupid, obese, violent, warmongers, you name it and some people believes the whole population! Many people hate all Americans for going into the mid. East wars! Even though many people protested against from day 1!!

The truth is Israel has many crimes responsible for. Probably no more than any other country. Just that they do not see the repercussions side. Israeli soldater get minimum sentences for crimes, heck the government stated they were defending them against war crimes charges. At least in America when they do that they are court martialled. There was a man named Steven Green in American army in Iraq who killed 2 parents, raped their daughter, then killed her and I think her siblings too. Imagine if the American army hadnt investigated that. But they did. And I believe got life in prison.

All people in this thread and the Swede wanted was an investigation, an independent, and you know what if it turns up negative or inconclusive people will still cry foul but some wont. And if it turns up positive then people like you would still cry hate of all Jews! But it would be worth it to prosecute a criminal. I am a lover of justice and the police job is to investigate ALL claims because there COULD be truth to it.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Sure there should be an investigation, and there has been. The claims made by the swedish newspaper are a hoax, so the Israeli ambassador is right. This is nothing more than another attemp at labeling all Jewish people, and more so those living in Israel as evil, demonizing them and claiming that Israel must not exist... This is the goal of such posts, and articles, to demonize a people and a country, and articles such as this are doing exactly that no matter how much some people want to deny it.

This is the same thing as the "peer reviewed paper" which a racist man published claiming that black people are less intelligent than white people, or people from other races.

These sort of CLAIMS are nothing more than attempts at demonizing certain people, and what many people don't realize is that these sort of "rumours" are the same ones which were being spread about Jewish people before Hitler decided to exterminate them.

THERE ARE BAD PEOPLE IN ALL WALKS OF LIFE, BUT THIS IS NO EXCUSE TO DEMONIZE AN ENTIRE NATION AND CLAIM THAT NATION SHOULD NOT EXIST...

[edit on 23-8-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

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[edit on 23-8-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

Originally posted by Ridhya
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All people in this thread and the Swede wanted was an investigation, an independent, and you know what if it turns up negative or inconclusive people will still cry foul but some wont.

If this is true, why was the swedish article LYING about the connection? There is no proof whatsoever that Palestinian kids are showing up without organs as the article claims... these rabbis were harvesting only kidneys, and not all organs, and they were BUYING kidneys from Israelis for $10,000, these donors were sent to New York to undergo the operation to take the kidney out, and as a condition of getting the $10,000 they had to claim they were giving the kidney free for humanitarian purposes and to help a relative. Then they would sell the kidneys for up to $160,000 making a profit.

The Swedish newspaper exagerated, and LIED trying to give weight to the claims that Palestinian kids were being kidnapped for organ harvesting...

[edit on 23-8-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

reply to post by ProfEmeritus


I agree with a lot of other topics that we discuss, but this one we seem to disagree.

That source with link you gave is obviously nothing more than another "lets hate and comdemn all Jewish people for all the problems we have"...

Even their website states...

JEWS MURDER & SELL ARAB ORGANS!

This guy, Nathanael Kapner, is missing several screws and it is not a reliable source imo.

Spreading more hatred towards a group of people is not going to solve any problem, except that some wackos might use these sort of rumours to attack Jewish people out of hatred.

[edit on 23-8-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

Man! this story is only getting better and better!

We have to ask ourselves, WHO is the Swedish Ambassador to Israel in Tel Aviv?

Beside having a history of being earlier a Swedish Ambassador to Estonia, she also had deployments in London, Beijing and Vienna.

She was also the Director of 'Global Security' at the Swedish state department.

Then she went to Geneva to work for further Globalization!

Elisabet Borsiin Bonnier - Ambassador and Permanent Representative of Sweden to the United Nations in Geneva, and have been the the Swedish director and representative to all International Offices in Geneva between 2003-2007. She also had the Presidency of the Conference on Disarmament.

UNOG - Around 8,500 staff work for the United Nations family in Geneva, which is the largest concentration of United Nations personnel in the world. They are active in many of the major fields of work of the United Nations, including health; labour; intellectual property; human rights; humanitarian action and disaster relief; economic, trade and development activities; disarmament efforts; science and technology; as well as research and training.

www.unog.ch...

So far so good! - a hardworking Swedish Diplomat taking care of Swedish interests in a Globalized world, or?

She also workeed for the United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research and was a member of the Board together with another interesting Board member & Globalist:

'Stephen Geoffrey Rademaker' who is an attorney, lobbyist and former Bush Administration government official:

In 2002, he was Chief Counsel to the Select Committee on Homeland Security of the U.S. House of Representatives, where he had lead responsibility for drafting the legislation that created the Department of Homeland Security. Later that year he was confirmed by the United States Senate as an Assistant Secretary of State, and from then until 2006 he headed at various times three bureaus of the Department of State, including the Bureau of Arms Control and the Bureau of International Security and Nonproliferation.

After leaving government, Rademaker joined Barbour Griffith and Rogers in January 2007. He came to the firm from the staff of Senate majority Leader Bill Frist, where he served as Policy Director for National Security Affairs and Senior Counsel.

en.wikipedia.org...

A funny thing about his pal Bill Frist:

Controversies

Internet Gambling Ban
In September 2006,This amendment to the Safe Port Act was passed at midnight the day Congress adjourned before the 2006 elections. Prior to it being added to the bill, the gambling provisions had not been debated by any Congressional committee.

Medical school experiments
While in medical school, Senator Frist was involved in a lab project which entailed dissecting feline remains. In a 1989 autobiography, Frist described how he "spent days and nights on end in the lab, taking the hearts out of cats, dissecting each heart." After some time, Frist said "[he] lost [his] supply of cats." The project, which needed to be completed as part of the medical school curriculum, could not be finished without another supply of cats. Frist several times obtained cats from animal shelters, falsely suggesting that he wanted to adopt them as pets. In his autobiography, Frist attributed his behavior, which he described as "heinous and dishonest", to the pressures of school.

The Military Commissions Act of 2006
The Military Commissions Act of 2006 (MCA) ushered in military commission law for US citizens and non-citizens alike. Text in the MCA allows for the institution of a military alternative to the constitutional justice system for “any person” arbitrarily deemed to be an enemy of the state, regardless of American citizenship. Senator Bill Frist and senator John Warner were the two co-sponsors of the bill.

en.wikipedia.org...

WTF! My God! Cat Owners Beware! a catkiller! this man literally rips the hearts out of poor little kittens! when he needed another supply of cats he obtained them from animal shelters, falsely suggesting that he wanted to adopt them as pets!

I guess this guy could have needed the services of an 'International Cat Organ Trafficking Ring' eh!

These NWO politicians & Globalists are just friggin' unbelievable!

And the NWO Cat-Heart Snatcher guy is just hilarious! WTF!?

Now she is a fully trained Globalist ready for a new adventure so the Swedish Goverment & the Swedish state department led by this man: Carl Bildt sends her on a new mission to be the Swedish Ambassador to Israel 2007.

Who Is Carl Bildt?
en.wikipedia.org...

Formerly Prime Minister of Sweden from 1991 to 1994 and now serve as the Swedish Minister for Foreign Affairs since 6 October 2006.

He served as the first non-US member ever of the Board of Trustees of the RAND Corporation (Mil-Ind-Complex), and he was also a member of the board of the European Policy Center (Brussels) as well as the International Institute for Strategic Studies (London) and the International Advisory Board of the Council on Foreign Affairs (New York). He has also worked for several Round Tables Groups and is a member of the 'Trilateral Commission' together with: Brzezinski, Kissinger, Rockefeller etc:

www.trilateral.org...
www.biblebelievers.org.au...

Bildt has also been questioned for his role as a member of the International Advisory Council of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, a group with ties to the Bush administration pushing for an invasion of Iraq in 2003. In addition, Carl Bildt has been criticized for opposing an international interference in the War in Bosnia and Hercegovina.

In the corporate sector in the US, he has also served as non-executive director of the Baltimore-based US assets management company Legg Mason, Inc.

So this guy is Mr NWO himself - in persona! he's a Swedish shill for NWO and this is what he said at the latest Bilderberger meeting:

Carl Bildt, Sweden’s minister for foreign affairs, made a pitch for two other major Bilderberg goals: creating a global Department of Treasury and Department of Health, with all nations surrendering sovereignty over these issues to the UN. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) is to become the Treasury Department and the World Health Organization the World Health Department. But Bildt seized on an old Bilderberg issue, global warming, to make the case for WHO. Bilderberg propaganda over a “swine flu pandemic” has fallen victim to facts: On average, 300,000 Americans develop flu each year and 30,000 die. Only a few have died or even been seriously afflicted by “swine flu.”

Bildt called for world (UN) solutions to virtually all problems. He cited the European Union as “model of integration, saying, “the EU is emerging as a global actor.” He advocates expanding NAFTA throughout the Western Hemisphere to create an “American Union.”

www.americanfreepress.net...

'Elisabet Borsiin Bonnier' is from the jewish 'Bonnier family' who is an influential Swedish family of German-Jewish origin, active in the publishing business since the 19th century. The family controls the media group Bonnier AB. en.wikipedia.org...

Bonnier (also the Bonnier Group) is a privately-held Swedish media group of 150 companies operating in 21 countries. It is controlled by the Bonnier family. The company was started in 1804 by the German Jew Gerhard Bonnier

en.wikipedia.org...

They are Sweden's Rupert Murdoch.

They now own most of the Swedish newspapers & media but not yet the main competitor; the newspaper: Aftonbladet

To be continued!

[edit on 23-8-2009 by Chevalerous]

reply to post by ElectricUniverse

Sure there should be an investigation, and there has been. The claims made by the swedish newspaper are a hoax, so the Israeli ambassador is right. This is nothing more than another attemp at labeling all Jewish people, and more so those living in Israel as evil, demonizing them and claiming that Israel must not exist... This is the goal of such posts, and articles, to demonize a people and a country, and articles such as this are doing exactly that no matter how much some people want to deny it.

I must have missed the report compiled by INTERPOL regarding the investigation, feel free to post it anytime unless you have an aversion to ON-TOPIC Posts…

Once again the post is about an attack on the Free Press, by an Israeli Ambassador, which I understand because of your agenda and narrow focus and ability to comprehend things outside of those you are having a hard time posting on topic about.

However that is the topic, not what you imagine the topic to be, not what your obvious agenda encourages you to imagine what the topic is about by way of paranoid and delusional assertions regarding the posts you obviously haven’t read.

Once again to a lesser extent it is about the illicit traffic in Human Organs which the names of quite a few countries have come up in regards to this topic and not just Israel, which once again if you were reading the thread and posting to it with a legitimate desire to discuss the actual topics you would know.

Please don’t degrade the quality of the thread with off topic, baseless, ineffectual broad generalizations based on your personal suppositions regarding the true motives of others.

See you would never know what the true motives of others are, because those who like to dictate and challenge free speech and the free press are poor listeners and only interested in a world according to them being forced upon everyone else.

They don’t take the time to read, hear, listen, see, or engage wisdom or compassion or empathy in formulating their responses.

The Original Post is about an Israeli Ambassador attacking sovereign nation’s right to a free press and speech.

Once again just like you are doing, the only hoax involved is someone who has no credible investigation claiming allegations of a heinous crime are a hoax.

They sure wouldn’t know since there has been no credible investigation and anyone whose done a little research into organ trafficking knows it’s an international problem where organs cross borders illegally which is why INTERPOL would be ideal for conducting the investigation.

Please post on topic. Thank you.

reply to post by Chevalerous


It's a very cozy and tightnit band of criminals and would be despots you are unearthing there my friend.

Excellent contribution to the thread. It highlights the type of agenda the globalists have. When we delve deeper into most of these politicians and Ambassadors and cabinet figures, we do see clear agendas that have nothing to do with serving the people of the nation's they represent but creating a larger power structure that undermines and attempts to override the individual nation's and their individual laws like a right to a free press.

Outstanding research, thanks for posting it!

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Hi Electric/

Im sorry you feel that Brother Nathanial is a luny type of guy!
He may be a fool and act like one in a wordly sort of way, but in Gods eyes, and in the Biblical sense of the Old and New Testament!
He is a HOLY FOOL which is a gift from God!
"For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight.
As it is written: "He catches the wise in their craftiness." (1 Corinthians 3:19)
"For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God." (1 Corinthians 1:18)

"For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe." (1 Corinthians 1:21)
Foolish may seem 'foolish' to those that don't understand!
What he says makes more sense then most of the media and political crap out there!
It is NOT a crime to defend the Truth, but to HIDE, is another matter that needs to be dealt with!

ICXC NIKA
helen

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


That all sounds nice until it comes to lets see some avidavids from these Israeli citizens and American surgeons that make it something beyond just a convenient story.

Medical charts seem easy to alter or create on the surface until it comes to the dispensary by the way.

You see things like the drugs used to put people to sleep for operations have to be signed out and inventoried.

That's usually where manufactured stories like these fall apart because the inventory of FDA regulated narcotics is hard to alter post fact.

Either way the Israeli's who supposedly gave these organs have real names. The Doctors and hospitals who supposeldy preformed these extractions have real names, the nurses in attendance have real names and so do the drugs that are adminstered during the procedure.

Telling a nice sounding story is not the same as being able to prove a nice sounding story...

Where is your proof? Got any?

The Universtiy of Miami Medical Center is pretty specific on how it harvests organs and transports them and to who they go to. There is little chance a reputable orginization like it, who is one of the leaders and preeminent authorities on organ transplants in the U.S. would have anythign to do with such a scenario as it by passes most of the checks in the system of matching up donors based on relation and blood or matching up donors to the person deemed most in need of the transplant.

The legitimate transplant network does not operate in the fashion you describe and would sniff out people lying about being relatives in a heartbeat and shut it down and report it if it were thought to a for profit enterprise.

Fairy tales work great for kids but not critical thinking adults my friend.

The only doctors who could be hoodwinked into such a practice wouldn't be hoodwinked at all as they would have to be engaged in it at that point solely for the profit and the whole concept behind organ transplants is one based on humanitarian needs not profit where the legitimate medical community is concerned.

Once a doctor is exposed as being criminally engaged themselves for profit so too is their credibility sullied by that endeavor.

You lack proof just like the Swedish Journalist and since your assertions are aimed at covering up a potential crime, and his are aimed at exposing one...I don't have to tell you do I whose winning the morallity war that pro-Zionists who love to sweep Israeli crimes under the carpet are always trying to justify doing that as somehow being moral for the sake of Israel and the Jews.

What a joker!

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Ya! the rabbit hole is deep my friend!

'Elisabet Borsiin Bonnier' is the Swedish Ambassabor to Israel and have ties to the influential jewish/Swedish family The Bonnier Family!

Bonnier (also the Bonnier Group) is a privately-held Swedish media group of 150 companies operating in 21 countries. It is controlled by the Bonnier family and they own most media & publishing and MSM newspapers in Sweden - But not yet the main competitor: AFTONBLADET

Now this Organ Harvesting Article is written and is published in AFTONBLADET - and they stand by the author and are defending the Swedish freedom of the press - and they even did a follow up article today!

And this follow up article thing I don't understand - in Sweden it's really not kosher to write blatant lies in the newspapers - they have been very very strict on this before, and usually when something it's written that has been shown to be false they have to retract that in the newspaper the next day with a written apology - this has not happen here in this case!

This is why I think something is fishy here!

All hell breaks loose after the first article is published - in some way the article of a Swedish national newspaper gets International attention in no time in Israel and around the world.

The Globalist and the NWO shill 'Elisabet Borsiin Bonnier' the Swedish Ambassabor to Israel go bonkers over the article and lashes out against AFTONBLADET and have a tantrum at the Swedish constitution & freedom of the press and freedom of expression.

Elisabet Borsiin Bonnier is expressing outrage at the article in a strong statement on the Internet site of the Swedish Embassy.

By this time some real crazy stuff is happening in stockholm. The Swedish State Department goes in and erase what she had written on their Internet site and are distancing themselves from the statement by Sweden's Ambassador to Israel, where Elisabet Borsiin Bonnier is expressing outrage at the article.

Sweden press freedom defend annoys Israel

Sweden's Foreign Minister Carl Bildt on Friday played down a diplomatic row with Israel sparked by a Swedish newspaper's claims that Israeli soldiers stole organs from dead Palestinians.

But Bildt declined to condemn the piece, saying the government has to respect the Swedish constitution's principles on freedom of expression.

"As a member of the Swedish government, acting on the Swedish constitution I have to respect the freedom of the speech, irrespective of the personal views that I might have," he said.

On Thursday, Stockholm distanced itself from a statement by Sweden's Ambassador to Israel Elisabet Borsiin Bonnier expressing outrage at the article, drawing a stinging response from the Israeli foreign ministry.

en.timeturk.com...

OK! so the Swedish State Department and the Swedes are strongly defending the freedom of the press & expression at any price!

By doing so they are leaving the Ambassador out in the cold.

There are a few things I'm thinking about right now:

The Ambassador is connected to the Bonnier Family and has an outrage and lashes out against AFTONBLADET (the main competitor newspaper to the Bonnier family's newspapers) on a site that belong to the Swedish State Department.

Could this be why the State Department distanced itself from a statement by the Ambassador 'Elisabet Borsiin Bonnier' because they believed that this whole mess with her could lead to a worse scandal?

The scandal would be that a non democratic Globalist & NWO shill with the name Bonnier used a State Department site to spread her outrage against a newspaper & main competitor of the Bonnier family? - talk about scandal and conflict of interests!

Could this be why they are leaving her out in the cold?

Could her boss Carl Bildt have gotten cold feet and with panic saw the approaching train wreak of a scandal coming?

I mean! this whole thing is so damn transparent and he probably panicked when he saw her lose control?

He must have cursed her for endangering & hurting the NWO cause and agenda in public!

But maybe she was only defending her family's business interests? - you know! never waste a good crises? - this is a good fight against the family's main competitor?

One thing in this whole mess is clear though!

This lady looks like a NWO & Globalist MSM shill and she has now exposed herself to be against the Swedish constitution & Swedish free press & the Swedish freedom of expression.

She has apparently also shown the Swedish State Department where her first priorities & loyalty lays - and it's apparently not with Sweden

She has also exposed her view and the set aganda of what should be written (or not be written) in the Bonnier news for the sheeple- and it ain't the truth since she's against the FREEDOM of the press and freedom of expression!

Or maybe this is a planned event and a attempt by the NWO against the Swedish constitution & laws like a right to a free press.

Sweden has very liberal laws for freedom of expression & free press, and I bet the NWO & Bonniers doesn't like that and would love to see a mainstream media they can have a total control over.

So this is have now become a fight for the free word & freedom of the press and the freedom of expression in Sweden!

O'boy what a mess! - I wanna know what they are hiding! NOW!

I'm going to continue to follow this further and research some more! but now I have to make dinner for the family!


[edit on 23-8-2009 by Chevalerous]

reply to post by ElectricUniverse

I agree with a lot of other topics that we discuss, but this one we seem to disagree. That source with link you gave is obviously nothing more than another "lets hate and comdemn all Jewish people for all the problems we have"... Even their website states... JEWS MURDER & SELL ARAB ORGANS! This guy, Nathanael Kapner, is missing several screws and it is not a reliable source imo.

Before you condemn him, without knowing about him, please read his life story. It may change your mind:

www.summitdaily.com...

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Well it could be racism if the article tars a government or whole country for the actions of a few criminals.

Years ago when I lived in Europe I would use this to my advantage. Whenever a native wanted to talk and I didn't I would I would ask what city they were from. They would tell me and ask me where I was from. I would say "Chicago". Without exception, they would [think gangsters and] make some excuse to leave.

reply to post by CharlesMartel

Well it could be racism if the article tars a government or whole country for the actions of a few criminals.

How about the articles in the 1930's prior to WWII that accused Hitler of being anti-Semitic? Were those articles racist? Not everyone in Germany was a Nazi, or approved or even knew what was being done.
However, those articles were right on, and yet, they were dismissed by the world.
Sometimes, to reveal the evil that exists, someone has to press on, regardless of who is being accused.

The fact that the people that were the victims of Hitler, and now are the ones being accused, or at least their government is being accused of allowing solders to remove organs, is rather ironic, to say the least.