David Wilcock's ascension theory on 2012

reply to post by C-JEAN


This is the reason I frequent ATS.
Wading through all the crap, you find something like this.

Thanks for the links! I'm going to start reading this today.

Originally posted by jvm222
I think david wilcock loves money.

Cayce backed it up with numerous other predictions and didn't charge.

[edit on 19-8-2009 by jvm222]

Agree...




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[edit on 16/9/2009 by Sauron]

The amount of evidence that he has put together supports his theories very well I think a lot of the stuff on his website is really great. I've enjoyed the Science of Peace information and his ebooks tremendously as well. His theory on 2012 is the only one that I've put stock in so far, it explains a lot of things that are going on in my life as well.

I really wish that I could attend one of his conferences but none of them have been near enough to where I live. Hopefully his movie Convergence will come out soon enough.

reply to post by jvm222


There are 3 ebooks on David's site for free that contain a large portion of his evidence. The rest of it can be found in blog posts and on radio interviews that he has done.

Sure he has a few products that cost money but he basically dedicates his life to researching 2012 so he has to make money to sustain himself.

His free ebooks can be found here:
divinecosmos.com...

I deleted this post since I started a new thread which better summed up my thoughts at:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 16-9-2009 by insideNSA]

Originally posted by antithesis.
The amount of evidence that he has put together supports his theories very well I think a lot of the stuff on his website is really great. I've enjoyed the Science of Peace information and his ebooks tremendously as well. His theory on 2012 is the only one that I've put stock in so far, it explains a lot of things that are going on in my life as well.

I really wish that I could attend one of his conferences but none of them have been near enough to where I live. Hopefully his movie Convergence will come out soon enough.

reply to post by jvm222

 

His free ebooks can be found here:
divinecosmos.com...

this guy, as so many others believe in this fictational "eather". Warning bells should start going of right there. There is no proof of this "eather" these 2012 bandwagon riders believe in. None!

The odds of something major happening in 2012 because of the cosmic allignment is pretty darn small. lets see... how old is the planet. 4.5 billion years(estimated) how many ascentions do we know of.... None. No evidence of ascention from 1st dimention, to 2nd to 3rd....so the odds of ascention happening in 3 years time is well.... 1 in "4.5billion to invinite"
No chance.
I'll be the 1st to say i was wrong(when we ascend to what or where ever), but because there is no way of telling the future by anyone, I call (yet again) BS!
its all about the bandwagon and money. Occultism

i hope there is some sort of prosecution for such people like David, they make money inventing stories and taking advantage of the sensitive people here wishing something like that to happen

Originally posted by GerhardSA

Originally posted by antithesis.
The amount of evidence that he has put together supports his theories very well I think a lot of the stuff on his website is really great. I've enjoyed the Science of Peace information and his ebooks tremendously as well. His theory on 2012 is the only one that I've put stock in so far, it explains a lot of things that are going on in my life as well.

I really wish that I could attend one of his conferences but none of them have been near enough to where I live. Hopefully his movie Convergence will come out soon enough.

reply to post by jvm222

 

His free ebooks can be found here:
divinecosmos.com...

this guy, as so many others believe in this fictational "eather". Warning bells should start going of right there. There is no proof of this "eather" these 2012 bandwagon riders believe in. None!

The odds of something major happening in 2012 because of the cosmic allignment is pretty darn small. lets see... how old is the planet. 4.5 billion years(estimated) how many ascentions do we know of.... None. No evidence of ascention from 1st dimention, to 2nd to 3rd....so the odds of ascention happening in 3 years time is well.... 1 in "4.5billion to invinite"
No chance.
I'll be the 1st to say i was wrong(when we ascend to what or where ever), but because there is no way of telling the future by anyone, I call (yet again) BS!
its all about the bandwagon and money. Occultism

Can you prove that he is wrong? Proof please, throw some our way if you can. You are making claims as he is, now show what you have to back it up.

Originally posted by heineken
i hope there is some sort of prosecution for such people like David, they make money inventing stories and taking advantage of the sensitive people here wishing something like that to happen

You want him prosecuted for what? If we were to prosecute everyone who makes a claim that some others don`t believe, we would have half the Earths population in prison or fines thrown at them.

Originally posted by FiatLux

Originally posted by GerhardSA

Originally posted by antithesis.
The amount of evidence that he has put together supports his theories very well I think a lot of the stuff on his website is really great. I've enjoyed the Science of Peace information and his ebooks tremendously as well. His theory on 2012 is the only one that I've put stock in so far, it explains a lot of things that are going on in my life as well.

I really wish that I could attend one of his conferences but none of them have been near enough to where I live. Hopefully his movie Convergence will come out soon enough.

reply to post by jvm222

 

His free ebooks can be found here:
divinecosmos.com...

this guy, as so many others believe in this fictational "eather". Warning bells should start going of right there. There is no proof of this "eather" these 2012 bandwagon riders believe in. None!

The odds of something major happening in 2012 because of the cosmic allignment is pretty darn small. lets see... how old is the planet. 4.5 billion years(estimated) how many ascentions do we know of.... None. No evidence of ascention from 1st dimention, to 2nd to 3rd....so the odds of ascention happening in 3 years time is well.... 1 in "4.5billion to invinite"
No chance.
I'll be the 1st to say i was wrong(when we ascend to what or where ever), but because there is no way of telling the future by anyone, I call (yet again) BS!
its all about the bandwagon and money. Occultism

Can you prove that he is wrong? Proof please, throw some our way if you can. You are making claims as he is, now show what you have to back it up.

ther have been so many threads on these type of people and why its has been declared bunk!
i'll have a look around and let you know of sources, dont have any on me now. but do know of some i will get back to ya!
Read this so long
www.abovetopsecret.com...


[edit on 18-9-2009 by GerhardSA]

Hi All

I enjoy David Wilcocks site and when I first fell into the rabbit hole it was coming across his site that helped me get my faith in life back! I do feel he loves appeasing his ego (heaps of images of his head on his website blogs as paragrapgh spaces!!) but since hes hooked up with Dan Burisch Im more wary of his his words. He seems to be not as honest now, and more focused on making ppl think a certain way, it seems programmed to me.

The Galactic Crossing is happening over the next few years, But the only thing I know for sure that will happen on 21st Dec 2012 is my wedding!!!


Havce agreat weekend everyone
themuse

reply to post by kaskade

well just think about being in complete dark for 7 days..
that suuuure would change the world lol

It will appear as ONE DAY of darkness for some and ONE DAY without night for others. This event will precede a pole shift as earth wobbles to and fro and shifts. Change the world, that is an understatement.-)

I agree the correlation is weak, and I don't think it will happen exactly that way, but I think it will be something like that.

I think the Betelgeuse going supernova theory is pretty awesome.

Originally posted by ET_MAN
reply to post by kaskade

 

well just think about being in complete dark for 7 days..
that suuuure would change the world lol

It will appear as ONE DAY of darkness for some and ONE DAY without night for others. This event will precede a pole shift as earth wobbles to and fro and shifts. Change the world, that is an understatement.-)

Do you think that's metaphorical?

reply to post by GerhardSA


Sorry, I don`t buy the reverse story at all. It sounds more like grasping at straws to try and find something to bedunk someone with. That to me is like saying, "Because he blinked his eyes, he is telling lies". People are going to have to try alot harder then that to bedunk other people.

reply to post by ET_MAN


That comes from the Maya. Thirty hours of darkness during the pole shift. I read that also ET_MAN. The new Maya leaders are coming forward to clear the air about how some of the old Maya legends are being misquoted.

Originally posted by insideNSA
I am starting this thread here at ATS because I tried to start this thread on David Wilcock's site but was denied by the moderator because what I posted 'did not agree' with David's views. I couldn't believe it. I was respectful in my post. All I did was express doubt about what David thinks will happen on 2012 basically saying that I didn't see a strong enough link between his research, which I said was very well done, and the conclusions he draws from that research.

Could it be possable that David Wilcock is a very positive person and bringing your own negative views to his website, and indeed the people who read his stuff, would cuase alot of Negative energy in the information he is trying to get out there to people who only visit his site for positive energy? Just a thought, though it sure seems that way!!

Doubt is a negative thoughtform that has no place in a postive website, in which his website is set up on. The reason you get away with it here is becasue people are willing to accept negative thougts, a place in which it is allowed and accepted!

I was trying to spark his loyal followers into action and give me more evidence found in David's data to more strongly back up his claims. I even said it in a more polite manner than I posted here. It seems the mod only wants 'YES' men to post on that site, unlike ATS where we are all free to express differing opinions. I mean isn't that what its all about!

Exactly the point i made above. ATS is a site were one can express there opinions, albiet negative or positive. David Wilcock's site is not both, its one and that one is Posative. His loyal followers are there for a reason, because they find him either credable or very very informative, and indeed both. For you to try and spark his loyal followers into action ( albiet, negative ) and feed YOU evidence found in Davids data is searching for the wrong answers and going about it the wrong way. If you strongly feel he is in the wrong, then is it not up to you to prove him wrong and search his evidence yourself by means of other researchers whom are doing, saying and presenting the same evidence as David?

Anyway David foresee's 2012 as a time of ascension/evolution for the human species. A time when things will be '100 times more harmonious than what they currently are'. (I stated in my post that I don't think anything in particular would happen on Dec 21st 2012 or around that time, that it would be the status quo, but I was hoping that I was wrong and that David was right)

Im presuming you had substantial evidence to back up your claims when you presented your post on his site? I sure hope so!

Im living proof of what he is presenting about ascension, about how we will start to experience other sense's as we head towards 4D. Over the past year i have been able to feel people's emotions and many times have picked up on there thoughts - very strongly i may add!!! I see it alot in nature, animals becoming more and more aware, with most not even being scared of Humans - we are all starting to interact with each other and notice who and what we are in this vast universe. I could go into great detail on what ive been experiencing through which David Wilcock is presenting, though for now ill just leave an insight. Can i prove what im saying? Sure, meet up with me and ill tell you what your thinking, take you to a forrest and let you see the wildlife interact with me.

Some of the background data David gives for this are lab experiments where DNA information was exchanged between developing embryos using a laser to transmit the DNA information. So for instance he claims something along the lines of a salamander's DNA info was sent using a laser to a frog's developing embryo, and the frog embryo grew up as a salamander. he gave other examples similar to this.

You dont appear to do any research for yourself, using words like " Something ". Do you just flick through his research and find what you think are flaws without reseaching it for yourself? I mean, i hope you have researched it?

he also stated how our solar system is changing due to the fact we are entering a more energetic part of space. (all of the planets heating up, becoming more energetic) which I also believe is true. he also points out that evolution happens in huge leaps, not a slow process.

Totally agree!!!

so putting these data points together. David thinks we are due around 2012 for the next step in human evolution. this will be triggered by us receiving some energy burst (similar to the laser/from/salamander experiment) from the center of the galaxy. the energy burst will upgrade/turn on/mutate our DNA for the next step in human evolution. the energy burst is that will due this from the center of the galaxy is due to the fact that our galaxy is a conscious being named Logos and that we and the planet will cross from 3 density to 4th density, whatever that means.

This energy burst, as you call it, is already happeningall around us!! Again you dont seem to be researching what he is presenting - you would know what it means if you spent a bit of time researching it!

so you see, this sounds amazing and I hope he is right. But I just think the link between his circumstantial evidence that I presented above and all these great things happening to us and the planet is a very weak link. I think David Wilcock jumps to some pretty big conclusions, based on these tidbits of scientific fact (although I have never heard about transmitting DNA info with a laser except from DW) but accepting that that is true, i think they are just interesting data points at best.

You never presented any " circumstantial " evidence above, you are merely speculating your views based on presumptions of reading what you want to read in order to claim Wilcock as a hoax.

I think we are definitely at the cusp between ages, Pisces and Aquarius. And I due believe we are due for some big changes. (Not necessarily linked to 2012, but anytime in the next 5 - 50 years) I just don't buy into David's logic though I really do hope he is correct.

What do you think will be happening over the next 5-10 years? Respond with proof, please!

So what do you all think about DW and his theories?

100% correct!

reply to post by kerazeesicko


"2012" was mentioned as a significant date back in 1987 during the Harmonic Convergence (is that the right title?)

However, it was instantly replaced by what people saw as another important date (and closer) "2000".

Once 2000 came and went, the focus shifted to 2012.

However, I would like to point out that y2k and 2012 are really not at all related since y2k fears were focused on technology, and 2012 combines science, astrology, history, prophecy, and religeon.

Originally posted by lpowell0627However, I would like to point out that y2k and 2012 are really not at all related since y2k fears were focused on technology, and 2012 combines science, astrology, history, prophecy, and religeon.

Hi there, i totally agree with that statement.

I think its very important to note here as this gets people confused with the date 2012 - the only subject that relates to this whole 2012 malarky is the " *fact* " that the Mayan Calendar stops ( 21/12/2012 ). Why it stops, well Mayan texts tell us that its " the end of an era, the birth of a new one "!! Its got nothing to do with any other conspiracy, NONE!!! People ( some on here ) seem to think that the whole world is going to go " BOOM " with an Armagedan type ending, others think that at exactly 21st december 2012 something major is going to happen. Well thats not the case at all.

Ascension has been happening for quite a few years now. It will reach its peak between 2011 and 2013 - not on the exact date of 21st dec 2012 which many believe.

Without going into detail myself about all this, a quick flick on David Wilcocks website gives a great insight as to what is and will continue to happen.

So, forget that date of 2012 - its all hype, another farce being planted into the brains of paraniod conspiracy theorists.

IP

I used to pay a lot of attention to Wilcock and I've even read through his entire book, 'The Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce'.

What I can conclude from David Wilcock is that whether his predictions are right or wrong, he still has some incredible insight that is worth checking out. My favorite things he talks about are 2012 and the Montauk project, that which can be seen here:

www.youtube.com...

I don't think Wilcock is a bad guy because the only message he seems to have is for people to embrace 2012 with positivity and hope. As long as you do more positive things in your life that overshadow the negativity, you are on the right path to ascension. If you accept his philosophy and ignore the fact that he charges fees for downloading his music or attending his conferences, then he really doesn't seem all that threatening. Is he right about the future? Who knows. He has the evidence you just have to choose to accept it or not.

I know this sounds weird but I am also an acension believer. I guess I would say that I'm 60% a believer in ascension for 2012 and 40% believer that nothing will happen. Part of me wants to believe that we will all decend into the next density. I can already see some things that are happening that makes me believe this more. The rational side of me says that nothing will happen and its all hype. I would really love to think that great changes are coming to us for the better. I can also see the pole shift thing as a possibility but I don't know if this will come around before 2012, during or after. I love surprises so I guess I will just have to wait and see!!!!!