Obama Joker artist unmasked: A fellow Chicagoan

I would like to know how many people in the USA actually keep their opinions of Obama to themselves to avoid being hassled by the people who consider any criticism of the first black potus to be racist. Anyone want to start a poll? It would have to be an anonymous poll though.

I'm amused with those moronic, thin-skinned liberals who are crowing "racism"... A Photoshopped image of a half-black man wearing white-face makeup. Which half is supposed to be offended by this? Obama's Negro half or his Caucasian half? Idiots.

— Doc Velocity

Originally posted by JIMC5499
No I'm not doing the samething that I say I'm against.

"People who disagree with Obama do so because of his race."
"People who vote for Obama do so because of his race."

You may think there's a difference between those two, but you're fooling yourself.

I had telephone pollsters call me racist because I said that I didn't support Obama.

Well, boo-hoo. I've been told I only voted for him because of his race. Join the club. You can't have it both ways. Well, you can, but you'll be seen for what you are...

Originally posted by FlyersFan
they shouldn't go after the artist who jokers up Obama.
...
But to abuse and hastle artists for expressing themselves politically in art ... that's shades of 1939 Germany

This Firas Alkhateeb guy got his name in the paper. Such abuse! Oh! They're "going after him"! Oh NO! They aren't hassling him, they wrote a story about him. Talk about thin-skinned.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
There are chances of assassination for ANY POTUS.

I don't expect you to understand that part, but if you want to try, read my first post in this thread. GWB is not black, gay or a woman.

This person is expressing their free speech rights through art.

And no one is stopping him, are they? I didn't equate that to assassination. It's more complex than that.

Originally posted by EnlightenUp

Then the counter exploded after a still-anonymous rogue famously found his image, digitally removed the references to Time Magazine, captioned the picture with the word "socialism" and hung printed copies around L.A., making headlines.

So, this really doesn't solve the whole mystery of who and why.

Why is the big mystery here.

Why is it a big deal?

Bush was drawn,photoshopped,cartooned and cgid in hundreds of different pieces each more insulting than the next.

Can no man (or woman) be allowed to defile the face of Obama?


Why the huge double standard from the media?

Yep.......................................Why?

Ha Ha Ha, funny how the media portrayed the artist as a radical right wing nut, when in truth, he is a "socialist", according to his last statement in the article.

Nice Post!

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I don't expect you to understand that part, but if you want to try, read my first post in this thread. GWB is not black, gay or a woman.

Why do you continue to ignore the fact the left reveled in fantasies about assassinating Bush? It was almost main stream and never once was it called out by the media. Nobody has suggested anything close to assassinating Obama and yet you and the media are trying your best to drum up that fear.

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Originally posted by badgerprints
Why the huge double standard from the media?

I wonder the same thing. Why do you think it is?

Maybe the media loves Obama. Maybe they hated George Bush because of the wars he started and the disrespect with which he treated our Constitution. Maybe more of the media support Obama than did Bush. Would that be so hard to believe? Maybe they see that Obama is still popular and want to give the people what they want to see... Who knows? But it's an interesting question.

Originally posted by Wimbly
Nobody has suggested anything close to assassinating Obama

That is NOT TRUE. Google it. Read. Just because you haven't seen it on TV doesn't mean it's not happening.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

That is NOT TRUE. Google it. Read. Just because you haven't seen it on TV doesn't mean it's not happening.

Once again, you completely ignore that this was almost main stream under Bush. You want to have it both ways.

Recently there was a guy that was arrested for threatening to kill Obama. The MSM was all over it for days. What they didn't tell you , is that he was also threatening Bush. It was only after he threatened Obama that he was arrested.

Maybe they see that Obama is still popular and want to give the people what they want to see... Who knows? But it's an interesting question.

Wait a second. Bush's popularity didn't stop the MSM from attacking him as a dumb cowboy who stole the election. It went on non-stop until 9/11, then they switched to attack him for "not connecting the dots".

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Originally posted by Wimbly
Once again, you completely ignore that this was almost main stream under Bush.

I'm not ignoring it. You said no one wants to kill Obama and I disagreed. Bush is irrelevant. I'm not making any claims about Bush.

Recently there was a guy that was arrested for threatening to kill Obama.

I thought you said no one wanted to kill him! So, now you're disagreeing with yourself! I give up!

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I wonder the same thing. Why do you think it is?

Maybe the media loves Obama. Maybe they hated George Bush because of the wars he started and the disrespect with which he treated our Constitution. Maybe more of the media support Obama than did Bush. Would that be so hard to believe? Maybe they see that Obama is still popular and want to give the people what they want to see... Who knows? But it's an interesting question.

Obviously they love Obama. They attack anybody who doesn't and lets it be known in a public forum.

Obviously they hated Bush, because they treated him as poorly befor he was elected for his first term. Never mind the things he deserved to be hated for.

The media doesn't give a damn about our constitution. They just parade it out to crow about the parts they like. They spend much of the rest of their time trying to tell us why it is useless.

As far as giving the people what they want, yeah, they will when it makes them money.

Still. Why demonstrate in such a grand fashion how hypocritical they are?

Or do they not care what people think at all?

Originally posted by badgerprints
Obviously they love Obama.

So, they love Obama... Why? Is this because they agree with him politically? I know the media is supposed to be unbiased, but it's been many years since that's been the case. So, is it because they agree with his policies?

Obviously they hated Bush,

Again, I wonder why. Did they disagree with his politics?

Does the media love Obama because they're predominantly Democrats? That seems kind of shallow, but I suppose that could be why.

I've been thinking about this question and there's one thing I think Obama has from the media that George Bush could never hope to have. And that's respect.

Obama is (or at least his image is) highly intelligent, cool, respectful, "together". George Bush was a good old boy who had the image of a bumbling fool. He spoke incorrectly, he was a goof and his image just isn't that of a "together", cool-headed president for the 21st Century.

The more I think about it, the more I think that's the reason that the media is so generous with Obama. Because they respect him.

Why demonstrate in such a grand fashion how hypocritical they are?

Do you call the media hypocritical because they support one president and not another? It's well-known that the media is biased one way or the other. FOX and MSNBC are perfect examples. Why would we expect them to be neutral? I don't. I know they aren't. Don't forget, FOX and the more right-leaning media are displaying the same behavior. They loved Bush in his day and hate Obama now... One is only hypocritical when they claim to be neutral while supporting one or the other.

But I wonder if it's respect...Putting a joker face on Bush is practically ignored because he's a clown, anyway. Doing the same thing to Obama is being highly disrespectful of an honored statesman. I think that's how the media is viewing this. They aren't aware of any hypocrisy.

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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

But I wonder if it's respect...Putting a joker face on Bush is practically ignored because he's a clown, anyway. Doing the same thing to Obama is being highly disrespectful of an honored statesman. I think that's how the media is viewing this. They aren't aware of any hypocrisy.

Oh you're being emotional again.
An "honored statesman" is not the same as a President.
Forget about the joker clown face, what if it were a chimp face instead?
No equal rights when the media decides to ridicule the President.

Either way it's disrespectful of a President but some people are unable to think logically.

I would say most of the threats, negative racist comments and other B.S. is planted by the very same people it is directed at. Obama himself is a master at Chicago Politics.

Liberals in general and for the most part fabricate crap like this. It's a dis-service to true cries of racism.

I read more often than not that some black cries racism and in the end it was the black that fabricated the racist slurs painted on a car or home. Or a cross burning or a black woman getting raped by a white La Cross team or a Black "educated" professor crying racism because a cop shows up to protect his property.

I find it interesting that the MSM says so many people want Obama done in but they say nothing about how he wants to kill off my mother or father or my grand parents... The guy is the Joker as portrayed in the latest Batman movie...

Obama is the Joker, only 10 fold worse.

Originally posted by Wimbly

I'd say the treatment Obama is getting is pretty tame compared to the utter vitriol Bush was given from the very start of his presidency.

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What's the point of arguing this?

Anyway, you're probably right. I had a Not My President T-Shirt from day one. That's the nature of politics, though. Nothing new really...

Anyway, I always thought the 'controversy' of the poster was a non-issue. It's not a particularly clever piece of propaganda.

Bailing out bankers and car companies does not make the president a socialist. It just shows he's in the pocket of big business like most other politicians.

By the way... BOOOHOOO! for right-wingers feeling the heat from the government. I hope you all get prosecuted under the PATRIOT act that most of you supported.

Originally posted by Alxandro
An "honored statesman" is not the same as a President.

Oh, really?

Statesman:

1 : one versed in the principles or art of government; especially : one actively engaged in conducting the business of a government or in shaping its policies

mw

Regardless, I was talking about how the MEDIA sees him. We're exploring a double standard in the media here. When you want to join in with some intelligent discussion, feel free.

No equal rights when the media decides to ridicule the President.

Exactly. That's what we're talking about. Good. Now, WHY is that? Maybe you should read a few posts on this page between badgerprints and myself before you jump in the middle of the discussion with an off the wall comment about emotions and such. Then you'd see that we aren't actually arguing, but agreeing.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by badgerprints
Obviously they love Obama.

So, they love Obama... Why? Is this because they agree with him politically?

Does the media love Obama because they're predominantly Democrats?

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The media loves President Obeyme because of the bailouts most of the MSM's parent companies recieved... they are essentially being paid what to say and report on.

You speak of rasism in your posts... there's NO White American College Fund, no NAAWP, White Business Association, etc but there sure are black ones. That is the very essence of what perpetuates racism in America.

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My entry for the Obama Joker Video contest:

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by Wimbly

Recently there was a guy that was arrested for threatening to kill Obama.

I thought you said no one wanted to kill him! So, now you're disagreeing with yourself!

I give up!

You just taught me to distrust everything you say since you obviously ignore whole stories and only pick out and respond to only certain parts that help your point (although the sentence following that one could destroy you point).

Hence:

"Recently there was a guy that was arrested for threatening to kill Obama. The MSM was all over it for days. What they didn't tell you , is that he was also threatening Bush. It was only after he threatened Obama that he was arrested."



Also, he was saying Bush threats were mainstream but you don't hear nearly as many Obama threats IN THE MAINSTREAM. Plus, people who threatened Bush weren't labeled as the ridiculous things they are labeling anyone who even opposes Obama.

Portraying a President as joker is political free speech, protected under the constitution, whether or not you find it offensive or not. What goes around comes around.

The racism card is being drawn to shut people up or to dismiss someone's opinion. It is a cheap trick especially after having a man of race ascend to the highest office.

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Originally posted by AliBruh
You just taught me to distrust everything you say

Well, I'm just heartbroken, let me tell you...

Also, he was saying Bush threats were mainstream but you don't hear nearly as many Obama threats IN THE MAINSTREAM. Plus, people who threatened Bush weren't labeled as the ridiculous things they are labeling anyone who even opposes Obama.

I KNOW. I'm agreeing with you! You guys are just so used to arguing, you can't even comprehend when someone's agreeing with you!

I KNOW the media is biased. I'm not denying that. I'm simply exploring WHY they're biased. I'm asking you why you think the media is biased... Why did FOX news support Bush SO much and now is ragging on Obama every chance they get? Why did MSNBC point out Bush's failings every day, but now Obama can do no wrong?

I'm asking you for your opinion. And you just keep arguing with me. It's really pretty funny.

A52FWY, I completely agree with you.

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