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Originally posted by COOL HAND
Did you ever bother to check that the French were at war with England at the time as well? Remember how they joined up with us so that they could have revenge on the English for past losses to them?
It is called American History, you might want to look into some of it.
Originally posted by Illmatic67
Joseph Stalin saved Europe, not FDR.
Originally posted by Illmatic67
It wasn't until Saratoga that King Louis saw that the British could be beaten and that is when he openly recognized America's independence.
So don't make it out that France was on their side from the very beginning because it wasn't that.
Originally posted by Illmatic67
It wasn't until Saratoga that King Louis saw that the British could be beaten and that is when he openly recognized America's independence.
Actually it was the actions of diplomats in France who had already convinced him to join us for his own benefit well before Saratoga. It took him time to assemble a fleet to take his army across the Atlantic.
So don't make it out that France was on their side from the very beginning because it wasn't that.
So all of the trade that they did with us, in open defiance of the British blockade, was for what?
It's called American History- read it.
I have, it's obvious that you have read a different version of history than the rest of us.
[Edited on 5-12-2004 by Illmatic67]
Originally posted by specialasianX
Nans doesnt present his argument well but i agree... sure the USA HEPLED! (i hate it when you guys make it sound like it was all you) defeat the Germans twice, but who will help the world defeat the tide of American aggresion and tyranny? I miss the old days when america was quite peacful. A couple of bombing missions here, a quick war in kosovo there. Now America is threatening the world, both directly and indirectly. Directly they are threatening Arab and Muslim nations, who pose little to no threat to America. America are instilling fear into the population of the world to justify its aggresion, the same way the Nazis did to justify they're treatment of the Jews. The Western world is being affected by Americas actions as the Muslim world see Americas friends as their enemies. The smart thing fro any country to do right now would be to refuse to help the USA in any further action against any other country. The more wars we fight for the USA the more of a target we become. Let America fight its own wars, and let Americalose them on its own.
And as for 60% of americans thinking Iraq had connections to Al-Qaeda, and had WMD... Alot of the ignorant population of the USA STILL believe these 'facts' even though absolutely no evidence has surfaced to support either of them...
God Bless the USA coz they sure need it, coz as they keep lying and covering up there obvious tyranny, less and less people are going to bless them.
Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS
the truth is that USA are a Nazist and Fascist country.
Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS
But anyway, the truth is that USA are a Nazist and Fascist country.
[Edited on 12-5-2004 by Nans DESMICHELS]
It also could have ended sooner if it weren't for those vichy french.