NAVY Space Command Uncovered

A tiny gem from the "Seas to the Stars" written by the US Navy

The Eisenhower administration determined, therefore, to pursue space goals in two distinct parts: military and civilian. The civilian part would be overt, "scientific," highly advertised and fully exploited for its world propaganda value [4]. The military part would be covert and highly secret. (The high degree of secrecy was as much to avoid bad publicity abroad as it was to keep the Soviets from knowing the details.) The mere existence of U.S. spying and other sensitive military applications from space would not be acknowledged openly by the U.S. government.





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Excellent Thread Zorgon!

I found this in my "saved" pile, thought it fit right in....
(from an email to Richard Boylan on the Red Ice creations site)

Richard (and Mark),
I would like to add that these missions are carried out by an secretive government organization called USAC (United States Aerospace Command), which was led by (now this was back during my Cabal days) a General (3 stars) Walter Brennig. He led a force of over 350 MILITARY astronauts who were trained at a variety of facilities which included Nellis etc...John Yaniec, who runs the regular "Near Weightless Astronaut training program", also gives substantial time aboard a KC-135A to training military astronauts. The majority of their training takes place, unknown and separate (except for head of NASA), from regular astronauts at a subterranean training facility at Glenn Research Center in Ohio. These military Astronauts (from now on MAs) are also taught specific flying abilities of various anti-gravitic craft at Area 51, and it must be said that ALL MA's can fly, unlike NASA's crew members who are payload specialists etc and are not capable of reentry duties nor attitude adjustments while in orbit. These MA's, once they complete their 3 year training program (all must have certain criteria - no wife, family or siblings nor close relatives) are then assigned to various duties such as :
1.) repair of various non-sanctioned private high resolution camera/monitoring satellites in orbit
2.) missions to our Moon Base at the edge of the Jura Mountain range, which house a spaceport and a rotating crew of 20 persons. The Edge of the mountain range there hides the base, built into the side, exceptionally well. Another base, at least back in the mid 90's, was being built nearby in the crater Mairan, which was found to have a large deposit of ice on the bottom (not covering the entire bottom though), and a machine, patented by Robert Zubrin who was never informed that his invention for unfreezing water and creating H2O and part of a self-sustaining ecosystem was being built for usage.
3.) Travel to our Mars base to provide support to continued archaeological missions going on there, despite the Cabal's efforts to refute Stanley McDaniel, Hoagland, Hancock et al. of the impossible chance of such anomalies found and studied being natural. Artifacts have been found.
4.) To help construct another small 'mid-station' for trips to Europa. The device for melting thru the ice while sealing itself behind except for an antenna as slim as a hair but as sturdy as a metal rope, with the end result being the exploration of the sea which lies underneath. This was Dan Goldin's 'child', and he diverted funds to the building of the devices and waystation halfway to Europa.

www.redicecreations.com...

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So effectively the NAVY is saying an agency like NASA would be an ideal front..

Nice spotting that statement has propaganda value

Ooops sorry I should have stated what chapter that came from for other people looking into this

Chapter One

1.4.1 The challenge of monitoring activities behind the Iron Curtain

The nest paragraph down in the same chapter:

This "military" versus "civilian" (called "scientific") dichotomy was rigorously implemented by the U.S. Government and was to rule U.S. space programs for ensuing decades. During the early 1960s, for example, either a U.S. space program was 'scientific", or it did not overtly exist. (Later in that decade, existence of several military space systems did become public knowledge, among them TRANSIT and the Defense Meteorological Satellite Program (DMSP), both highly successful, programs.)


Just recently before I joined ATS I heard two interviews with "Aquanauts".

For the folk interested you can can listen to this interview which aired on Australia's national government owned broadcaster so don't expect woo woo type stuff but listen to her Heritage

Astronaut K. Megan McArthur (now she has quite a NAVY pedigree)

www.abc.net.au...

Don't jump the Cue....

Why interviewer's always ask what oceans look like from orbit is cool and all but I would love if one of these so called Journo's asked "What does the Moon look like whilst situated outside of Earth's Atmosphere"

Has anyone ever asked the Navy for a colour picture of the Moon ?

Originally posted by Somamech
Don't jump the Cue....

Why interviewer's always ask what oceans look like from orbit is cool and all but I would love if one of these so called Journo's asked "What does the Moon look like whilst situated outside of Earth's Atmosphere"

Has anyone ever asked the Navy for a colour picture of the Moon ?

I don't know if they have or not, but i would bet that many here would delve into what a color image really is.

But just take a regular old camera, like the one Andre Agassi used to peddle, and snap some pictures. The false color crap is only confusing people (and that makes NASA somewhat unavailable to the public).

Originally posted by Somamech
Has anyone ever asked the Navy for a colour picture of the Moon ?

Ask and ye shall receive...

This is Reiner Gamma magnetic anomaly taken by the NAVY Clementine spacecraft in 1994. Its just south of Aristarchus...

Any requests?




For comparison... same area taken with a 10 inch Scope from the suburbs of London




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I think the government should just come out with the truth about its space command. They should have the support of the people not their doubts or fears.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

Originally posted by Somamech
Don't jump the Cue....

Why interviewer's always ask what oceans look like from orbit is cool and all but I would love if one of these so called Journo's asked "What does the Moon look like whilst situated outside of Earth's Atmosphere"

Has anyone ever asked the Navy for a colour picture of the Moon ?

I don't know if they have or not, but i would bet that many here would delve into what a color image really is.

But just take a regular old camera, like the one Andre Agassi used to peddle, and snap some pictures. The false color crap is only confusing people (and that makes NASA somewhat unavailable to the public).

I will do, full moon is about on us so I will go out and take some shots at different exposures. I've been on a bit of moon search tonight and found a site explaining the RGB data in a lot of detail

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HUH So someone with a 10 inch scope can take an image as nearly as good as the Navy.. heck I didn't even know Clementine recorded in colour... I've only ever seen the moon maps where they blur out certain area's in grey scale

If you are taking requests I would love to see Copernicus in Colour as that's the first hig rez image of a crater I have seen from .. "The lost tapes"

SO the Navy should revise their history book and say we also like Propaganda

Thanks for the images they are brilliant

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You have done an incredible amount of work here , Zorgon. I'm just wondering if you have run across any connections with Richard Hoaglan's work? I have read Hoagland and kept track of Enterprisemission.com. If the Navy's out there, have they any new information RE: ruins on Mars, Iapetus, or our own moon?

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...heck I didn't even know Clementine recorded in colour...

Don't think Clementine did. Thought those images have false-color enhancements.

ArMaP would be the one to know, though.

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Colour pictures of the moon have sent me down an endless rabbit borough at the moment


Now Getting back to Navy Starships

Project Longshot:

hyperspace.wikia.com...

Project Longshot is a design for an interstellar spaceship, an unmanned probe intended to fly to Alpha Centauri powered by nuclear pulse propulsion. Developed by the US Navy's Naval Academy and NASA, Longshot was designed to be built at the Space Station Alpha, the much larger precursor to the existing International Space Station. Unlike the somewhat similar Project Daedalus, Longshot was designed solely using existing technology, although some development was required.

Unlike Daedalus' closed-cycle fusion engine, Longshot used a long-lived nuclear fission reactor for power. Initially generating 300 kilowatts, the reactor powered a number of lasers in the engine that were used to ignite inertial confinement fusion similar to that in Daedalus. The main design difference was that Daedalus relied on the fusion reaction being able to power the ship as well, whereas in Longshot the external reactor provided this power.

The reactor was also used to power a laser for communications back to Earth, with a maximum power of 250 kilowatts. For most of the journey this would be used at a much lower power for sending data about the interstellar medium, but during the flyby the engines would be turned off and the entire power dedicated to communications at about 1 kilobit per second.

The baseline Longshot massed 6.4 metric tonnes, which includes a 3.4 tonne allocation for a large flywheel energy storage system. The rest of its mass was fuel.

You can view the paper on Scribd with the lovely Yellow brick roads

REF: Beals, K. A., M. Beaulieu, F. J. Dembia, J. Kerstiens, D. L. Kramer, J. R. West and J. A. Zito. Project Longshot: An Unmanned Probe To Alpha Centauri. U S Naval Academy. NASA-CR-184718. 1988.

www.scribd.com...

this is a pretty amazing find!

Here are a few links in regard to the Naval Space Command.

www.fas.org...

Excerpt:

NAVAL SPACE COMMAND

Mission

Headquartered at Dahlgren, Va., Naval Space Command began operations Oct. 1, 1983. Naval Space Command uses the medium of space and its potential to provide essential information and capabilities to shore and afloat naval forces by a variety of means:

Operating surveillance, navigation, communication, environmental, and information systems;
Advocating naval warfighting requirements in the joint arena; and
Advising, supporting, and assisting the naval services through training, and by developing space plans, programs, policies, concepts, and doctrine.


also...
www.au.af.mil...

Seems pretty "out in the open"...but then again who knows the true intentions of any large organization like this...specially with ties right to our Military.


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The plot thickens gentlemen....the plot thickens...

www.fas.org...

www.fas.org...

looks like evryone gets a turn....Army has an agency too...link is dead
www.fas.org...

wow we have our very own BattleLab?!
www.fas.org...

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Originally posted by jeddun
looks like evryone gets a turn....Army has an agency too...link is dead
www.fas.org...

Army has its own launch facility

Kwajalien Atoll

Ronald Reagan Ballistic Missile Defense Test Site (RTS) - Marshall Islands

Where the real Star Wars happens Even NASA has operations down there..



www.smdc.army.mil...

US ARMY SMDC (Space and Missile Defense Command is also the Redstone Arsenal where Project Paperclip happened. Von Braun made rockets for the Army before he went to NASA

When I have time I will pick on the Air Force

I wish the whole lot of them stop using the term "Theatre" and use an appropriate phrase like "We can Blow # up on Earth...but not elsewhere even though we try"



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I like the line... "Deep Space Surveillance"

Just what are they keeping an eye on in 'Deep Space" that is of military concern?






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With Regards to Sea launch;

Even when they show us the rockets they use in televisions shows and documentaries, things like the Engines are blurred out because that info is still Classified. We do not have a need to know.:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/48d3899f738a.jpg[/atsimg]


*The censoring of the classified engines begins at around 6:00:




Hidden in plain sight...

Zorgon, this is your find from way back in 2007, I just grabbed a screencap out of it so people could see what I was talking about. In any case, I figured it would be a good example to show how things are concealed.

So with sea launch platforms, not only do we not know what they are launching or where they are launching from - we don't even know what they are launching with....