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The United States is still a British Colony

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posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 02:56 AM
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Found this doing a Google search and thought I would present it here due to the fact of all the turmoil going on in the states.

Please don't flame me I present this info to you knowing full well I have not read the full material and welcome debate over its contents.


THE UNITED STATES IS STILL A BRITISH COLONY

EXTORTING TAXES FOR THE CROWN!

A DOCUMENTARY REVIEW OF CHARTERS AND TREATIES

August 17, 1996

An Expose'

An introduction by the "Informer"



This is the latest from a man who visits me quite often. He and another man researched my theory that we have never been free from the British Crown. This disc shows the results. I have states that we will never win in their courts. This shows conclusively why. We have the hard copy of the treaties that are the footnotes. This predates Schroder's material, my research of the 1861 stats by Lincoln that put us under the War Powers confiscation acts, and John Nelson's material. All our material supports that the real Principal, the King of England, still rules this country through the bankers and why we own no property in allodium. This is why it is so important to start OUR courts of God's natural (common) Law and break away from all the crap they have handed us. This is one reason Virginia had a law to hang all lawyers but was somehow, by someone, (the King) set aside to let them operate again. Some good people put in the original 13th amendment so that without the lawyers the King could not continue his strangle hold on us. James shows how that was quashed by the King. I am happy that James' research of six months bears out my theory, that most people would not listen to me, that we are still citizen/subjects under the kings of England. My article called "Reality" published in the American Bulletin and the article of mine on the "Atocha case," wherein Florida in 1981 used it's sovereignty under the British crown to try to take away the gold from the wreck found in Florida waters supports this premise. James makes mention of the Law dictionaries being England's Law Dict. you will not is lists the reign of all the Kings of England. It never mentions the reign of the Presidents of this country. Ever wonder Why? Get this out to as many people as you can.

The Informer.

The United States is still a British Colony



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 03:27 AM
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Hummm



The United States have independence day as a MAJOR holiday for it is the time when they reached independence from England.


Woohoo for them back then, didn't mean they would later get screwed up the #@$* by the TPTB back then... the Tea Party seems so irrelevant in the history that shaped the great United States when one ass#&*@ comes along an saying, you have no privacy bitch!

beats/defeat the purpose of it all.

I still will not call the US a british colony for they sent all them loyalists/queen sucker up in Canada back then! They are a dying breed in Can and I truly hope they expire real soon but to call the US a brit colony... your man of the "expose" have seriously not spent enough time in Canada to get acquainted with Queen Lovers... Down in the US they are a dead breed or if they are still alive, either, they seek political asylum .

The Queen is even i joke in England... When she comes to visit in Canada, we all know that she comes to collect her "royalties" for having her face on our coins/dollars.

So the Brits still a threat to the USA as a colony ... I think not.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 03:47 AM
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Originally posted by miss_silver
Hummm



The United States have independence day as a MAJOR holiday for it is the time when they reached independence from England.


Woohoo for them back then, didn't mean they would later get screwed up the #@$* by the TPTB back then... the Tea Party seems so irrelevant in the history that shaped the great United States when one ass#&*@ comes along an saying, you have no privacy bitch!

beats/defeat the purpose of it all.

I still will not call the US a british colony for they sent all them loyalists/queen sucker up in Canada back then! They are a dying breed in Can and I truly hope they expire real soon but to call the US a brit colony... your man of the "expose" have seriously not spent enough time in Canada to get acquainted with Queen Lovers... Down in the US they are a dead breed or if they are still alive, either, they seek political asylum .

The Queen is even i joke in England... When she comes to visit in Canada, we all know that she comes to collect her "royalties" for having her face on our coins/dollars.

So the Brits still a threat to the USA as a colony ... I think not.



How nice of you to speak for England and say we think our Queen is a joke.


I dont. And millions more here dont either. Why not ask some of our brave lads (and lasses) kicking arse around the world if they think our Queen is a joke. Whilst not everyone is totally enamoured with the royalty as a whole, i know VERY FEW people who think that about her Majesty.

God save our Queen - and god save YOUR Queen


And please dont be so bloody arrogant to think you can speak for another country and its people



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 03:59 AM
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No it isn't.

There may be some archaic laws which haven't been repealed but they are not in use and I'm sure if challenged in some court of law they would be deemed defunct.

The US is like a lively young cousin to us who we know will be a mighty fine member of the family when it mature's, grow's up and becomes an adult.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 04:13 AM
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wow please calm down I love America don't get me wrong but to belittle the queen of a country that bleeds blood with us out in the field is a step to far! So please tone down your anti British rhetoric a tad thank you.

as far as the site goes I am still reading strange stuff.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 04:21 AM
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If they get out of hand we burn down their Whitehouse. Its happen before


[edit on 12-8-2009 by VitalOverdose]



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 04:49 AM
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reply to post by miss_silver
 


?

you Americans are British.
so basically your taking the mick out of yourself lol.
and don't be going oh America beat Britain, it was basically a civil war Britain vs Britain and we could of whooped your as then the queen just didn't want to send everyone to America to fight lol.

please don't go on at the queen, England owned 2 3rds of the world and we are a very small country that is why i'm proud of England are little country took over so much.

besides no we could not beat America at this time our country is sh** but back then we could and possibly in the future



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 04:51 AM
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LOL. I don't think one person that has responded has even taken a look at the information. I have just finished reading part one and, so far, the guy makes some very good points. I would like to see if anyone is able to debunk the information presented.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 05:18 AM
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Its probably true, the idea that the British bankers would just give up control over a silly little war is unbelievable. Considering the amount of Freemasons that were present during their declaration of independence the probably just did what the British do best and that's setup a puppet government.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 05:27 AM
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Yea well you guys over the pond are wearing England shirts to LA Galaxy games. Maybe you want to be English!!



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 05:28 AM
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The raping and pillages of countries for pathetic powertrips and economic means is hardly something to be proud of...it was quite a feat though i will give you that.Anyway to the OP i don't think America is still a British Colony..but i think the city of london has everyone by the balls.All the financial power in the world is based there.

[edit on 12-8-2009 by Solomons]



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 05:28 AM
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The Americans sent a naval vessel to the UK during that war to maybe take cornwall . He did manage to land there and take a town there for a short while before the english military were aware of his presence to remove him . He knew where to land , he went and invaded the little town he was born in .



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 05:30 AM
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Course I read it.

This has been discussed to the nth degree here on ATS many, many times in the past.

It's just archaic nonsense that hasn't been repealed, the reality is we are all owned by TPTB that pull the strings from the shadows, and nationhood is irrelevant to them!



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 05:42 AM
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Course I read it.

It's just archaic nonsense that hasn't been repealed


The guy makes some good points. Are you able to debunk anything he says?



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
No it isn't.

There may be some archaic laws which haven't been repealed but they are not in use and I'm sure if challenged in some court of law they would be deemed defunct.

The US is like a lively young cousin to us who we know will be a mighty fine member of the family when it mature's, grow's up and becomes an adult.


Thanks, Pops.

Gotta have my Pops.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 07:23 AM
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Have you ever been to the UK?
Do you actually know anything about the UK?
Not the stereotyped bollocks as portrayed by Hollywood etc.

My country is so far up the proverbial that it maybe beyond redemption.

Don't you think that if the US was still a colony of ours then some of the financial benefits would be filtering through?

Do some research of your own and formulate your own opinions free from the propoganda dished up from all sides.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 07:31 AM
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just so you know im not trying to spread propaganda here just presenting some info that i thought was interesting.

thanks for all of your reply's ill present my thoughts and findings tonight at work.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 02:03 PM
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Don't you think that if the US was still a colony of ours then some of the financial benefits would be filtering through?

Do some research of your own and formulate your own opinions free from the propoganda dished up from all sides.


LOL. I can tell you didn't even read it.

Why would the financial benefits have to filter through?

Often times doing research involves confirming the accuracy of others research. Not disregarding something because our belief structure tells us it is ridiculous. I have read only through part one and so far the guy makes some excellent points. It's a shame that, so far, no one is willing to have a debate about this persons research.

You advise me to formulate my own opinion free from propaganda. How are you able to tell what is propaganda and what isn't unless you are willing to look at information objectively first.

Your advise is very hypocritical due to the fact that you aren't even willing to read the guys research.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by expatwhite



How nice of you to speak for England and say we think our Queen is a joke.


I dont. And millions more here dont either. Why not ask some of our brave lads (and lasses) kicking arse around the world if they think our Queen is a joke. Whilst not everyone is totally enamoured with the royalty as a whole, i know VERY FEW people who think that about her Majesty.

God save our Queen - and god save YOUR Queen


And please dont be so bloody arrogant to think you can speak for another country and its people



I didn't think I was "bloody" arrogant speaking up for the ones I have met through my travels who thinks otherwise about the queen. I didn't think I was bloody arrogant when her "Majesty" grants power to a Canadian representative who then have the power in return to give the OK to dissolve an entire parliament so the one in power can save his but from being evicted from his position (Stephen Harper, Canada's Prime minister) and I sure didn't know that I was being arrogant to the point to inflame yours truly to say what I think about the queen which is an opinion, yeah, people do have opinions about other countries leaders...

God save the Queen? How would it make you feel if I were to say, God save the Republic?

The main reason as to why I think she is a joke is because of this

Kicking arses around the world because of the Queen? This is a dangerous type of misplaced patriotism if you ask me, but also fine by me "if brave lads (and lasses)" feels to lay down their lives for one single individual, it is their lives and right to do so while I am left here scratching my head thinking... Really? All of that for the Queen? Where does the madness ends.



Originally posted by ashnomadonte

wow please calm down I love America don't get me wrong but to belittle the queen of a country that bleeds blood with us out in the field is a step to far! So please tone down your anti British rhetoric a tad thank you.


What you perceive as belittlement, I perceive it as free speech. Reckon that the various English people whom I have met were dead right on this point, "Insult the queen and you insult the british population" and then continued on saying what a bunch of tight "I will not repeat the words they used to convey their disgust" it it were their words, not mine.

Anti British? Really?









To get back at the topic at hand, I kick myself for that lengthy read... The United States is not "still" a british colony.

Why?

The United states is not a member of the Commonwealth.

The United States does not pay any monies to the head royalty of England.

The United states do not send tax money levied from it's tax payer to the queen.

The United States is recognized around the world as a country by other countries thus making it a former british colony and not the other way around.

And mostly

The population think themselves as americans, not loyal subjects of the queen.

So whatever treaties were signed in the past, what ever semantics used back then as either the war was won or that battle was conceded, what ever documentations dug up by the author of the article, the United States is by all definitions a country and not a colony.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 04:02 PM
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The United States does not pay any monies to the head royalty of England.

The United states do not send tax money levied from it's tax payer to the queen.


How do you know this? He makes the point that you can verify that the 1040 for is the IMF form for the tax for the U.S./ U.K. treaty through the IMF code. Can you debunk that?

However the IRS hasn't been in existence since this Countries conception so I wonder how this tax could have been collected prior to the IRS.




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