landing on i20?

reply to post by qonone


You couldn't be the idiot because you raise an important issue...

What happened to MUFON? If they were anytime for real, I mean...

The Gov says something and MUFON simply says "oh, we debunked it, the Gov said it was X"...

It's ridiculous to their credibility, honestly.

I love that MUFON just say's "no it's an F-35 move along" without giving proof or explanation, so you just have to believe them, thats so funny.

The photo that compares the object to an f22 is good, must admit it's a close (ish) match, but now compare it to the second photo (the on of the rear of the convoy), let's just say the f22 chassis (or f35 chassis) is no where near large enough compared to the objet, and the f22 & f35 with wings are alot larger than the object (f22 wingspan 44ft, f35 wingspan 35ft), personnaly I estimate the object to be about 20ft large (on the second photo) concidering the trailers is in between 8.20 and 10 ft large (as the semi trailer does not seem to be larger than the truck thats pulling it)

Just some dimension reference points

Oh and here are some simple diagrams :
www.codeonemagazine.com...

And full f-35 diagrams : (if anyone can read the properly)
www.up-ship.com...

i agree, i think mufon is full of it, and here we go with the "turbine" stuff...AFTER the so-called "official" explanation came out.....give the turbine thing up,..its NOT a turbine obviously, and it looks too small to be a plane as mufon is claiming, and for mufon, im suprised they just went ahead and "agreed" that "oh it was just a plane", why not research it even further?? they could of told mufon it was a weather balloon and they wud of agreed...im not buying it. i think it should be researched even further and people should find something else to say besides "plane" and "windturbine"...c'mon..

Well of course there going to agree with it. In all honesty their probably going alone with the governments cover plan i mean that is way to small to be a plane don't resemble a wind turbine. things like this is the reason I'm writing a book because i want to try to uncover what litter bit of truth is still out there on these incidents. so if anyone would like to make their own statements on this i will gladly add them to my book. But the government needs to tell us the truth for a changeing instead of covering crap up

I do not see he disc or round shape people are referring to, the picture, to me is far to blurry to pick up on things like that. Determining whether it is covered or uncovered, is even difficult to determine.

The only problem I have for the official explanation is if the radio station truly received a phone call, then why did the Radio station deny receiving a call if the official story is true? This for some reason bugs me, but it could have been a top secret craft they are trying to pass as a F-35.

[edit on 8/21/2009 by AlienCarnage]

reply to post by AlienCarnage


The 'official' explanation really doesn't make sense to me either... I see no resemblance between that object and an F-35... In my opinion just looks like another brilliant government cover-up

i read through most of the thread but not all. im just wondering if it has been considered that the object was shrink wrapped? ive seen things like boats, helicopters, fiberglass pools, and misc. machinery covered with huge pieces of shrink wrap. the wrap doesnt exactly cover every part of whats wrapped and could give the appearance of adding extra smoothed sections.

Friends live in Dallas, Arlington and Fort Worth area... Haven't heard anything from them about the incident but I doubt there isn't anymore pictures or videos of what happened.

I never thought about it being warped in shrink wrap but i think its a very good cover up weather or not in a UFO because apparently they don't want you to really know what it was because if they did they would show us a picture of the very same object instead of ones saying this is what it was and it not being the same picture but of one "Like it" i mean how hard would it have been to do so

now , im not claiming this is any particular object but it could be something that was wrapped. here's a site with some examples of large objects that have been wrapped.

www.kbyachts.com...

i know what your saying and i fully agree with you and i still have the photos of it i saved i just wish you could get a cell phone image clearer becuase i would like to honestly know what it is and where its from and why the men in black suits the military and the police

Yo all, sorry for hijacking, but if you all wanna see a UFO coverup tonight I invite you to VA.

200 Ton UFO will close some streets tonight:
www2.timesdispatch.com...

Yup, link says its a C-17, but you know, here on ATS everything is an UFO, so see ya all tonight.

reply to post by daniel_g


You realize that you just raised the issue even more, don't you?

Since you are so smart and it's obvious to you, please explain to all the ignorant of us "here on ATS" why the military/governament didn't release any information about this transportation.

Since "it's so normal" and "everything here on ATS is a UFO".

Because, you know, "here on ATS" usually we try to see past the obvious, and we don't just giggle and say "uhuh... This link says it's a plane! vrruummm".

Just for example "the official link" in the Battle of LA said it was a weather ballon.

That's so cute... A weather ballon that can take shots from AA guns made to bring down BOMBERS.

But hey, the link says it, so it must be true!

[edit on 22/8/09 by Tifozi]

Originally posted by Tifozi
reply to post by daniel_g

 

You realize that you just raised the issue even more, don't you?

Since you are so smart and it's obvious to you, please explain to all the ignorant of us "here on ATS" why the military/governament didn't release any information about this transportation.

Since "it's so normal" and "everything here on ATS is a UFO".

Because, you know, "here on ATS" usually we try to see past the obvious, and we don't just giggle and say "uhuh... This link says it's a plane! vrruummm".

Just for example "the official link" in the Battle of LA said it was a weather ballon.

That's so cute... A weather ballon that can take shots from AA guns made to bring down BOMBERS.

But hey, the link says it, so it must be true!

[edit on 22/8/09 by Tifozi]

Tifozy, I don't understand why you have to grab something I post and twist it around.

The fuselage came all the way from California (but I'll let the 'smart' ATS community verify that information).

Why did I post here?
1- To mock the thread
2- So that perhaps another 'smart' ATS member could trace the route the fuselage took. I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be the same truck as it most likely traveled only by night and at relatively slow speeds.

Oh, and yes, most likely the (local) government did release info about it, I don't live there, I don't know. Too bad your 'smart' ATS'r wasn't present at that moment. Instead we get a fool who could have called local authorities to try and find out what's going on, but instead starts a thread on ATS called 'landing on i20?'

What's even worse, there's no attempt on anyone to find out what's going on between pages 1-3, the closest they come to is a guy monitoring radio stations to see if they mention anything.

Coincidentally, another ATSr posts the same thing, but on another thread, and another road in the same area. That's when the real smart ATSrs kicked in. They figured out that's the route between to known facilities, and even go as far as to guess what it might have been (a fighter jet fuselage).

Sadly, to date, no one suggested contacting the transportation authority in Texas to try and find more info. Do it myself perhaps? I'm sorry, but no. Guys like you make me lose all hope in humankind since I know that if I call, and post results here, guys like you will start throwing comments like 'that's why it's called a coverup, they won't tell you the tuth!', or will find never ending loopholes in the story.

and we don't just giggle and say "uhuh... This link says it's a plane! vrruummm".

Eat your own words, didn't you just write: "That's so cute... A weather ballon that can take shots from AA guns made to bring down BOMBERS"

So somehow you came to the conclusion that there was something in the sky - I thought u didn't jump to conclusions that easily. But anyways, suppose there was something, suppose it was a weather balloon, suppose the military did shoot it down. Would you ever expect to see the headline 'Military shoots thousands of rounds, downs weather balloon'?

Maybe they did shoot down a weather balloon and are still covering it up.
Maybe they shot a weather balloon, and missed.
Maybe they did shoot an UFO with no success.
Maybe they downed an UFO and are covering it up.
Maybe they simply shot a cloud.

Abosutely no one ever said 'weather balloon, case closed' rather they open possibilities, same thing I'm doing here.


[edit on 22-8-2009 by daniel_g]

Daniel if you came here just to "Mock" this tread do it with some dignity in stead of sounding like a offset jerk i mean come on who know what it was. everyone's assuming something rather it being a UFO a f-53 or a flying turd. the fact of it all is we're discussing it and yea you can throw in your two cents
but whatever it was does'nt it really matter in the end? will anyone lose sleep over it i think not so why are you coming on here acting like if some choose to believe its a UFO or whatever its gonna really affect you any? i mean i don't mind people expressing there opinions but when someone has to be a all around butt about it i figure I'll let them know so yea stop no need to get butt hurt right?

Originally posted by EmeraldBlood
Daniel if you came here just to "Mock" this tread

No, obviously you did not read my whole post.
I came here for two reasons, one you already mentioned - and I think its well deserved, just take a look around, 11 pages of nothing. The other reason is well documented in my posts.

Seems here on ATS is better not to contribute anything if the feelings of those who want to believe are going to be shattered one way or the other.

[edit on 23-8-2009 by daniel_g]

Ok so your here to crash the beliefs of what others what to believe is true LOL I guess it truly means someone has nothing else to do with their time and openly admits it I'm proud of you. Admitting a problem is the first step to recovery

Originally posted by EmeraldBlood
Ok so your here to crash the beliefs of what others what to believe is true LOL I guess it truly means someone has nothing else to do with their time and openly admits it I'm proud of you. Admitting a problem is the first step to recovery

No Emerald, and I'm surprised you missed the point 3 times, didn't they teach you how to read back in school? (hint: reading goes way beyond looking at words and making your own interpretation)

I'll say it plain simple: I am here to add yet another possibility.

Also, when did I say I have nothing else to do with my time? To my understanding my private life is way beyond your knowledge. Oh wait, now I understand, that's all you can say to make yourself feel better. Why do I say this? Because you only have like 8 posts on ATS but played that card 2 times already.

BTW, the other thread you played that card is this one:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Weren't you mocking just about everyone who claims to have been abducted? You indirectly told them to get themselves checked because they might be crazy. Do I smell a hypocrite?



[edit on 23-8-2009 by daniel_g]

No actually that was two different statements talk about needing to go back to school and in all honesty i don't need set here and make insults to feel better about myself i feel just fine thank you =D but thanks for caring Lol come on im just trying to make this intresting for you and you seem to be getting a bit upset by my words if it will make you fell better ill take it all back

and no i wasnt mocking anyone the only thing i ever said on any tread and thats becuase the tread was a openly admitted joke was that if Santa abducted me id send my self to a mental house is all LOL