landing on i20?

Huh? Yeah thats how we build planes we build a part there and transport it here to get more work done on it. We take it around to about 5 places around the country in big convoys disrupting traffic then bingo! We built a plane! If this is such a common occurance why isn't this seen or photographed more often??

yea i know!! like the just haul secret air craft around half built on flatbed trailors for the hell of it through big citys at night....i agree no plane!! so to all who keep saying it is...and to the stupid "windturbine" theory too. looks NOTHING LIKE EITHER...and yea MUFON has released false explanations such as stevensville, thanks for pointing that out!!!!!

Originally posted by guardstarr
Huh? Yeah thats how we build planes we build a part there and transport it here to get more work done on it. We take it around to about 5 places around the country in big convoys disrupting traffic then bingo! We built a plane! If this is such a common occurance why isn't this seen or photographed more often??

That actually happens. Airbus has the Belugas to transport airplane parts (again, how come Airbus can be more efficiant in tranport than the US secret agencies...) from factory to factory.

BUT, and this is a huge "but" (laughs a part...) it only happens in prototypes, because when the model (military or not) is finished and production has started, there is usually only one factory (or assembly line) and the parts come in small sizes (easy and cheaper to transport) to the factory.

That happens with the M1 Abraham Tank, it happens with the Apache Attack Helicopter, and the F-35 is no different.

It helps keep secrecy about techonology, it's cheaper, more effective and faster and they can do a thing that the military LOVE: they can CONTROL every step of the production.

Originally posted by Crayfish
For an easier comparison, here's the I-80 F-22 on a flatbed resized and placed near the I-20 F-35:



Size and dimensions all seem to be roughly correct. Bear in mind however that the F-22 is 62ft in length and the F-35 is 50ft. The angles of the photos are not perfect matches either.

That's great work Crayfish

I've taken the liberty of showing your comparison pic (below). I think that clearly shows it's a wrapped plane on that truck.

The shape matches.

The size matches.

The wrapped appearance matches.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5a90aa9092ae.jpg[/atsimg]

I've also shown your other picture of the wrapped plane being made ready for transport.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b03ffebcdf1b.jpg[/atsimg]

I'm convinced.....

It's a plane.

im not, i want to see a clear quality pic of another thing being transported from roughly the same distance and another up close, poss. a vid too before im convinced its "a plane"....you can "compair" diff photos all day, but it doesnt convince me its a plane...and look at how small the ppl are in the wrapped pic....that plane clearly seems to be larger than whats on the truck...srry im not convinced

Originally posted by M0bstar
and look at how small the ppl are in the wrapped pic....that plane clearly seems to be larger than whats on the truck...srry im not convinced

I have to agree. That thing looks much, much larger than what is on that truck.

In My option it looks nothing like the picture its don't look like a plane its more round but as i said that is my option i do believe the government is trying to cover something up as usually... if its not how the president bakes cookies its a UFO.personally this story's going in my book =/ i find it very interesting weather its a UFO or a flying turd. so if anyone has anymore comments on this please please write them down.but to anyone out there that heard the message of the radio from the callers calling in please let me know that as well because I'm am under the impression that "No one called" so say the general manager LOL actually I'm under the impression that the government thinks we cant handle the truth on anything but that's another story

Originally posted by EmeraldBlood
I find it very interesting weather its a UFO or a flying turd.

Let me read that again.....

"I find it very interesting weather its a UFO or a flying turd."

Ok.....once more.....

"I find it very interesting weather its a UFO or a flying turd."

Ok.....one last time.....

"I find it very interesting weather its a UFO or a flying turd."

Nup....I can't even begin to respond to that.

You win

Edited...again...seen new photo.


The bottom doesn't match with a F-35 chassis. And it can't be a F-22 (size) because the F-22 has 2 engines....

[edit on 20/8/09 by Tifozi]

reply to post by Tifozi

G'day Tifozi....

All your points are fair enough.

Like I said, I don't think it's a perfect match but on balance I think it's still a plane, with an outside chance it's a piece of specialist equipment such as that mentioned earlier in the thread (i.e. part of a large wind turbine).

I'm going to have to stop mixing up my aircraft nomenclature!

Originally posted by Sam60
reply to post by Tifozi

 

G'day Tifozi....

All your points are fair enough.

Like I said, I don't think it's a perfect match but on balance I think it's still a plane, with an outside chance it's a piece of specialist equipment such as that mentioned earlier in the thread (i.e. part of a large wind turbine).

I'm going to have to stop mixing up my aircraft nomenclature!

Good day (it's lunch time here. lol)


The only thing that bothers me is just the bottom... Because the sides actually are correct with the wings of a F-35 (it has small wings and are on the back of the chassis. If this is the one that can lift verticaly, it must have space for the middle turbine) but not the bottom.

Acording to the aerodynimics and technology of the "thing" it must have a lot of flat angles (like the F-117 stealth bomber (people call it a fighter because of the size, but it's a bomber...)) so it can evade radar more easly (like the F-22 does).

A big and round belly doesn't aid that at all.

As for the wind turbine theory(started by me actually), although people enjoy making fun of it, is the closest thing I have seen to that.

Believing or not, I have seen things very similar to this on various travels to home, and I can assure you that if I find them again I'll take pictures so I can compare the two. When I say "wind turbine" people think of one already assembled... Well, those things can reach 30meters high... They don't travel completed... but ok... People believe what they want.


EDIT

Btw, just found this:



Tilt it to the left some 5º or so, put some dark cover on it, and imagine yourself at the distance of the photo in the OP, and tell me that they don't look very similar. Just a thought...

(bate in mind that this things are very different from model to model, I know that this example looks different)

[edit on 20/8/09 by Tifozi]

Those pictures do not match. Pure and simple. yes, large stuff gets carted about like that, but the comparisson pictures are not the same as what is in the original picture. There are defined shapes in the other pics, in the original picture, it's a disc shape. not a plane shape, not a wing shape it's a disc shape.

Show me a picture of a disc shape object that big, being moved, and i'll be convinced. It could well be machinery of some kind, maybe part of a large engine, or something. But I'm not convinced that the pictures posted, are at all what was being transported on that night.

Originally posted by Acidtastic
Those pictures do not match. Pure and simple. yes, large stuff gets carted about like that, but the comparisson pictures are not the same as what is in the original picture. There are defined shapes in the other pics, in the original picture, it's a disc shape. not a plane shape, not a wing shape it's a disc shape.

Show me a picture of a disc shape object that big, being moved, and i'll be convinced. It could well be machinery of some kind, maybe part of a large engine, or something. But I'm not convinced that the pictures posted, are at all what was being transported on that night.

The object isn't disc shapped.

If you look at the angles on the bottom you can see that it makes a small straight line before being impossible to see because of the blur from the light.

And about the shape on the sides, those specs vary from model to model acording to the winds, hight and size of the blades.

reply to post by Tifozi

Perhaps you're right....

Perhaps it isn't a plane.

It's very hard to identify it exactly....

[edit on 20-8-2009 by Sam60]

If it was a part of a wind turbine, why would the official explanation be that it was an F-35 being shipped?

To me, it looks like a large flanged object. Alomost like an oversized plumbing item. Or something from a large buildings heating/ducting set up.

But to me, it looks nothing like a plane of any sort. Unless it's some black ops project style thing, and that crashed.

Wssn't there one recently, with a simular shaped object (in half IIRC) Which was supposed to be a ufo on the move. It looks like that, doubled up on itself.

[edit on 20/8/2009 by Acidtastic]

reply to post by Tifozi


The only real problem I have with the comparison photos of the plane or the turbine is that there is not a "over sized load " sign and none of the others have escorts following them, not to mention all the photos I've seen so far were in taken in the daytime. All over sized loads I've ever passed on the road only has a truck in front and one I saw had a truck in front and one in the rear. I agree the one wrapped in the blue tarp is too large to be the same object. One other point, the object on I-20 has smooth rounded edges that look thicker than the plane wings, and it doesn't looked wrapped up in anything to me. I have seen a wind generator like the one you posted before on hwy 287, and I will admit it looked alienish, however, I knew what it was, there was no question in my mind.

Originally posted by sickofitall2012
reply to post by Tifozi

 

The only real problem I have with the comparison photos of the plane or the turbine is that there is not a "over sized load " sign and none of the others have escorts following them, not to mention all the photos I've seen so far were in taken in the daytime. All over sized loads I've ever passed on the road only has a truck in front and one I saw had a truck in front and one in the rear. I agree the one wrapped in the blue tarp is too large to be the same object. One other point, the object on I-20 has smooth rounded edges that look thicker than the plane wings, and it doesn't looked wrapped up in anything to me. I have seen a wind generator like the one you posted before on hwy 287, and I will admit it looked alienish, however, I knew what it was, there was no question in my mind.

What do you mean? The photo I presented has a "over size load", and in that case it doesn't have any escort, but I can assure you they do that most of the times.

Again, with my life experience I can tell you that I haven't seen any of this being transported during the day but during the night (less trafic), and it always had escorts.

As for your point of "I knew what is was", maybe you did because it was during the day and you weren't looking at it from a blurry picture... Just guessing.

Originally posted by Crayfish
If it was a part of a wind turbine, why would the official explanation be that it was an F-35 being shipped?

Can you please link me to that official report? Thanks, I think I missed it.

reply to post by Tifozi


I know yours had one, I'm talking about the I-20 one had NO sign. I can clearly see the sign on your photo. I simply said the photos I've seen SO FAR have been during the day, I have yet to see a photo taken at night, that's all I was saying.
The report is at ufocasebook.com

[edit on 20-8-2009 by sickofitall2012]

That just looks nothing like an F-35, not that i know how a half built F-35 looks like, but c'mon, that which is being transported on the flatbed looks a "flying saucer-ish" shape. It could be another military plane/project, yes. Maybe they are just distorting facts of the type, for obvious reasons ofcourse.

How (if) MUFON can fall for that is beyond me, well not really, as i don't trust them anyways. They probably know what the object is and the average person are not on a need to know basis. As long as they know then all is A-OKAY in their eyes. If they do not know, well then i take back what i said but then they are idiots anyway to believe this.

I could be wrong, making me the idiot...ofcourse.

[edit on 8/20/2009 by qonone]