Da Vinci Crop circle ( the netherlands)

reply to post by 0bserver1


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Ok great.

They've finally added some images to the 'rumors' section.

CCC, like everyone else here,
has provided a link to the same mentioned website niburu.nl,
which is known for bad research and
basically, it is an 'official' DISINFO site.

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Originally posted by 0bserver1


Do you know by any chance if researchers are now investigating this crop circle?

[edit on 11/02/2007 by 0bserver1]

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As everyone seems to be pretending they aren't,
I'm sure they do,
like me,
and many others.



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Face it, this one requires some actual additional explaining.

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[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/279a0cfcbb5a.jpg[/atsimg]

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reply to post by Zyril


I don't think humans are brilliant enough to create crop circles.

And even the brightest human would have neither the time or precision required to do such a thing.

[edit on 9-8-2009 by Janitor From Mars]

reply to post by Zyril


How could it be man made and we can't even get things right here , and look at the size of it . they proved thats it's not man made a few years back when the crop circles where smaller, people was comming out saying they made it and when they showed how they was doing it. theirs was nothing like the beings . its trying to tell us humans some thing and those who know how to truly read it understands it. i just wish i knew whoo they are? but now the closer we get too 2012 its almost like a everyday one pops up. man could spy on its on people but not corn or weat feilds . but yet you think its man made . if i had the money i would put eyes on every feild on earth or at least EU were most are happening that would put a end to the non beleivers ..

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As no one has yet,
offered any actual solid answers,
while we are here now, in the third day,
it is probably reasonable to expect
additional forthcoming
revelations.

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Hello! Who really cares if it was man made on not? The point of the crop circle is the message someone feels strongly about. That's the point of any artwork. The point is to get the viewer to feel and think. Let's evolve to that. I wish everyone would get two wal-mart bags and fill them up with trash from where you live, work, or play, and start to clean up the planet. I went to a beautiful beach in Florida this spring that was loaded with trash. I used the plastic bags from the beach to pick up four miles of litter as I walked along. It was 40-50 lbs of trash when I was finished.
That's what I did on vacation. How sad we humans are to ruin our own planet! and to ruin it for the other inhabitants!

The Giant Butterfly / Da Vinci 'Crop Circle' in The Netherlands on YouTube.

Originally posted by Sol12
A gorgeous looking human butterfly,
if not, the most stunning cropcircle ever.

You say several things that I think are right, I also noticed that there seems to be some discrepancies in the stories and we should keep an eye on this.

But there is one thing with which I do not agree, and I have been thinking about saying it, so I will say it now.

To me, that crop "drawing" is not gorgeous or beautiful, the man looks like a thin version of the Michelin man, all the grace of the Da Vinci work was lost, there is no real shape to the man, only a rough outline, showing that crops are not the best medium to create real complex (with subtle curves) drawings.

Sorry for the "art critic" moment, but I am used to comment on my sister's works (she is a painter and ask me for my opinion many times) and I thought I should post my opinion about that part of this case.

reply to post by Janitor From Mars

And even the brightest human would have neither the time or precision required to do such a thing. [edit on 9-8-2009 by Janitor From Mars]

I'm sorry I've got to insist here. Do you really mean you don't think that even the brighthiest human couldnt create a crop circle?. My friend, you are subestimating the human race. Bright humans have already created things be far more complex. In science and art. Your post was made as a joke, as a blind wrong assumption and if you are actually ready to deny ignorance you should hear me. And I'm out of discussion on this topic, Im not talking right now if the crop discussed in this topic is actually man made or not, I just need to make you understand we, as humans, are capable of making crop circles, being overnight on a longer time, and it would take more than a week to do something really really complex. I think I'm doing my work making you understand that, whatever are your believes and search in denying ignorance, your statement is way far away from reality.

I mean, with the time. A computer can take a given shape, diagram it in different circles and different parts, like paiting the monalisa by numbers. The mystery is when this formations appears overnight or in a place were there is no access (or when the patterns doesnt seem made by a human, you get my point). That is what we need to discuss and investigate.

And just to take a small part of the "amazing" things humans can do, and on context on the crop theme. Here you have:

funfever.blogspot.com...

weburbanist.com...

Originally posted by Janitor From Mars
reply to post by Zyril

 

I don't think humans are brilliant enough to create crop circles.

And even the brightest human would have neither the time or precision required to do such a thing.

[edit on 9-8-2009 by Janitor From Mars]

Microprocessors are billions of times more complicated and articulate than crop circles. Who makes them?

reply to post by Jskun

That was a very nice video, but it didn't show the making of that thing in Netherlands. It's like saying if I can drive a car, I can fly the space shuttle.

Some folks say that the Dutch thing is too huge to be made by man. That's exactly what the hoaxers will prove wrong by releasing the video showing how they made this giant.

Yeah, right. There is never a video like that -- there has never been a video showing the making of anything that later attracted plenty of attention. That would kill the mystery for good or those circles were not man made.

reply to post by stander


Excuse me, as I state on my post, that video was posted to answer the poster statement

yet time after time we ask to see people making them - especially on such a scale - and time and time again, we get nothing to back up it was man made - or 'other' - something is making them - and i don't know any "man" that can - do you?

And then I posted it again, clarifying in my post that it was out of context of the crop circle in this post, to show him humans are indeed capable of doing crop circles (when he said he doesnt think any human being have the time o intelligence to do so).

Read my post in context and dont only watch the video.

I never posted that video as proove to debunk the Netherland's crop circle, but to discuss those statements that sparkled on this thread.


Edit: In the spirit to keep focus, don't you think that if in one night a group of organized 30 people can do that crop circle, in several nights and with a permit, a group of 50 people or the same 30 people can do the same "giant" crop circle? There is a benefit of doubt in both ways, because the article dont say it appeared over night (And we dont know until more information appears).

And the stadium picture on the original picture seems really out of place. It doesnt seem as the field is that big, and still, we cannot say that "the picture of the stadium provees it", that would be believing anything anyone says. Can someone find the actual fact of what is the size of the place?


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reply to post by Jskun

Aha. I didn't see the context.

The size is really comparable to the size of a football field. The tramlines are spread apart far more than usual, as I found out later.

Originally posted by ArMaP


But there is one thing with which I do not agree, and I have been thinking about saying it, so I will say it now.

Sorry for the "art critic" moment, but I am used to comment on my sister's works (she is a painter and ask me for my opinion many times) and I thought I should post my opinion about that part of this case.

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The two images I posted earlier,
show the butterfly photographed at an angle,
so the image appears slightly distorted.

Having said this,

The 'imperfect' Human,
seems an interesting detail
to the stunning perfection
of this overall intricate design?



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There is only one reference in the Dutch press:
www.pzc.nl...

It says that 55 folks were involved in the making of the formation after they got a permission from the farmer. But it doesn't mention how much time it took it took to complete it. I guess they did it during daytime hours.

reply to post by stander


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Old news.
Read back some pages.


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Originally posted by Jskun
Can someone find the actual fact of what is the size of the place?
[edit on 9-8-2009 by Jskun]

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Size is estimated to be
approximately 25 hectare/acres.

1500 feet by 1500 feet.
500 by 500 meters.

I have yet to see an image, that was taken
from enough altitude to cover the area
properly and center focused.

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Originally posted by Sol12

Originally posted by Jskun
Can someone find the actual fact of what is the size of the place?
[edit on 9-8-2009 by Jskun]

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Size is estimated to be
approximately 25 hectare/acres.

1500 feet by 1500 feet.
500 by 500 meters.

I have yet to see an image, that was taken
from enough altitude to cover the area
properly and center focused.

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What exactly is wrong with the original image from the very first post?

It shows the entire thing and most of the surrounding area.



[edit on 9-8-2009 by nightmare_david]

Massive, no way it could be man-made...in the night without anybody knowing. And it would have taken days and days to do it.