WAR: Video Shows Beheading of American Civilian Nick Berg by Al Qaeda Group

Digital Watermarks Prove Berg and Abuse Cameras Were the Same?
Alex Jones' Prison Planet
May 25 2004

There are several postings on message boards suggesting that the digital watermarks on the Berg and Abu Ghraib videos are exactly the same. While at this point we have no concrete confirmation of this, it would fit with other examples of how the Berg execution and Abu Ghraib torture scenes are very similar. The contention is that Berg was killed by the US military as a staged psy-op to distract attention from the torture scandal, an execution blamed on 'CIArabs'.

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Wouldn' that be exactly the kind of operation covered by the "copper green" program that Hersh refers to?

hmmm...why is Nick Berg dressed in a United States Federal Inmate Bright orange jumpsuit?

The whole thing is a hoax! A giant HO-AXE!!!!

There was no blood! If one cuts either the carotid artery or jugular vein while the heart was pumping, blood would spurt a good 10 plus feet covering everything. There wasn't a drop of blood anywhere.

Secondly, he was wearing the same jumpsuit worn by the Gitmo Bay prisoners. He is sitting in the same white plastic chair shown in the alleged abuse videos. The walls are the same color as the walls in the Abu Ghraib prison pictures.

Also, some of the masked men are wearing jewelry, a prohibitive "No, no" for devout Muslims. Their skin was lilly white. AT least two of these men were over-weight... hardly a jihadists lifestyle of living in caves and on the run. Two others stood at "Parade rest", a VERY, very military way to stand while not at attention. This becomes nearly innate for a trained US MILITARY soldier. And one was wearing sneakers!?!?

Come on, an abvious hoax!

Personally, I think that Berg worked for the Mossad.

i saw that video. its really wierd. there was blood and it looks pretty real when he gets his head cut off. i mean the way they do it is you can see the man cutting actually trying over and over to get through his neck. and when its cutting he actually look like hes in real pain. so i dont know what im making of all this yet....

The blood came weeping out, not spurting, which would indicate that the person who's head was allegedly cut off was already dead.

Is it possible that Berg was murdered while in Iraq and that the US military used his corpse as a tool for propaganda? I think that is the most likely scenario.

I don't know if it was staged here in the U.S by the C.I.A or what but when I watched it like 20 times I can tell it is not real. I also had a Marine Recon from Veitnam watch it and he thought it was faked too. He said they did some pretty horrible # over in Nam and this was not real. I noticed if you watch closely that they have a really hard time cutting through the middle of his neck not the back where the spine is. That seemed strange to me and then I heard that the C.I.A released that the voice on the tape does not match voice tapes of Nick Berg in phone calls to his mother. So who was on the tape? The CIA claims it is Nick Berg and his voice changed under extream stress. I personally think we did it to make Americans want a war over there to get rid of the Moslum extreamist.

yea ive seen real decapitation videos, and yes i must rethink what i posted before, they actually do have too much trouble cutting through the neck even though they have such a hunting type blade. there also wasnt enough blood, especially seeing as how the neck holds the highest traffic of bloodflow.

Everyone has life,no one has rights to take it away by force.

we need to send in hired guns who dont have to play by rules,catch these @!#$%*& and behead them while being video taped,and make sure the knife is socked in pigs blood!!!

to hell with those Iraqi, um, captors. they can behead their own. i vote we pull our own men out of Iraq, they aren't needed there, the only thing they are accomplishing is giving the Iraqis someone to kill

Originally posted by kozmo
The whole thing is a hoax! A giant HO-AXE!!!!

There was no blood! If one cuts either the carotid artery or jugular vein while the heart was pumping, blood would spurt a good 10 plus feet covering everything. There wasn't a drop of blood anywhere.

Not if they killed him before decapitating him. Radicals are a very obssessive bunch about "control" and they would do anything to make sure the world sees they are in control. Decapitating a person alive, with a knife is not easy. It is possible the terrorists don't want the world to see them struggle with a helpless tied up man, they might look "incompetent" among other things.

Secondly, he was wearing the same jumpsuit worn by the Gitmo Bay prisoners. He is sitting in the same white plastic chair shown in the alleged abuse videos. The walls are the same color as the walls in the Abu Ghraib prison pictures.

None of the hostages are wearing the same jumpsuits as the prisoners we have. The texture of the material is different. If I remember it was World Watcher who told us that the clothing that Berg and others are wearing are a traditional two piece(insert name here) i forgot the name.

Also, some of the masked men are wearing jewelry, a prohibitive "No, no" for devout Muslims. Their skin was lilly white. AT least two of these men were over-weight... hardly a jihadists lifestyle of living in caves and on the run. Two others stood at "Parade rest", a VERY, very military way to stand while not at attention. This becomes nearly innate for a trained US MILITARY soldier. And one was wearing sneakers!?!?

Come on, an abvious hoax!

Personally, I think that Berg worked for the Mossad.

Muslims can wear jewlery, a link to what they can wear was provided, i think also by World Watcher. There are also white Muslims..... not all Muslims have brown or black skin. Radical Islamists also have military skills...they are trained in paramilitary camps.... And many Muslims do wear sneakers and regular clothes....another misconception and stereotype i have seen some people give to Muslims....

If it had been a US/CIA military coverup, do you think they would be so stupid as to have so many things being similar to what is found at the Agrub (sp?) prison?

I think radicals are making the prisoners, and the surroundings where they keep hostages, similar to what can be found in the US prisons in Iraq to make a statement that they also have "prisoners of war." Which would not be true since most of the hostages taken by radical Islamists were civilian contractors.

[edit on 21-7-2004 by Muaddib]

Originally posted by kozmo
The whole thing is a hoax! A giant HO-AXE!!!!

There was no blood! If one cuts either the carotid artery or jugular vein while the heart was pumping, blood would spurt a good 10 plus feet covering everything. There wasn't a drop of blood anywhere.

Secondly, he was wearing the same jumpsuit worn by the Gitmo Bay prisoners. He is sitting in the same white plastic chair shown in the alleged abuse videos. The walls are the same color as the walls in the Abu Ghraib prison pictures.

Also, some of the masked men are wearing jewelry, a prohibitive "No, no" for devout Muslims. Their skin was lilly white. AT least two of these men were over-weight... hardly a jihadists lifestyle of living in caves and on the run. Two others stood at "Parade rest", a VERY, very military way to stand while not at attention. This becomes nearly innate for a trained US MILITARY soldier. And one was wearing sneakers!?!?

Come on, an abvious hoax!

Personally, I think that Berg worked for the Mossad.

Someone actually believes it!!! Come on Kozmo...watch it again. No blood? Are you that blind? Sneakers? So only American wear sneakers? The orange jump suit? Its 2004 Kozmo, i could order 1000 orange jump suits and have them at my front door by 8:00 tomorrow morning. The white plastic chair....i can't even count the number of white plastic chairs i've seen? The walls??? The same as the walls in the prison pictures...ok, the prison and Nick Bergs death bed were bith in the middle east, they are going to have similar walls. Why would the US government kill Nick Berg, why? What about Paul Johnson? Was he killed by Bush aswell? What about Kim Sum? Come on Kozmo, wake up, think, and stop believing EVERYTHING YOU READ. And most of all, stop getting you arguments off of Politrix.org. It make you look like a fool. Don't let your hatred for G.W. Bush cloud your judgment.

Please tell me what Bush has done for our Country in the last 4 years? I mean what has he really accomplished.

[edit on 2-8-2004 by BeenCrazii]

Bloodstain Analysis Casts Doubts on Authenticity of Beheading

Originally posted by madwalrus911
First of all 911 was a bad event for would history, second, take a look at american black ops, or have a look at bowling for columbine by michel moore,

You are seriously going to quote a fiction peddler as support for your argument? second what �American black ops� have targeted large numbers of civilians?

Does anybody know if this supposed or any other beheading has appeared on the internet?

I am not some sort of headcase, I just wondered because surely the web site would be closed down by the FBI etc. if they did show it!

why why why are people so offended and upset about the recent beheadings? hello. humans are violent. have we become so uppity that we forget the past? how about vlad the impaler? the english army slaughtering people in africa? the civil war? the inquisition? public executions(a day of fun for most back then)? what happens today is no more violent than what has been happening since humans had the urge to kill for whatever reason. i am not condoning anything that has happened,all i'm saying is that maybe people should remember how things have always been.

Originally posted by minkey53
Does anybody know if this supposed or any other beheading has appeared on the internet?

I don't want to post it in this thread because I don't want to upset anyone who doesn't want to see it but there is a site on the net that has all the beheadings in the archive along with a bunch of other crap. If this interest you send me a U2U and I will send you the link.

Ya well such video recodings can easily be faked. Especially with the technology we poses today. And even if it did really happen. I don't think it really matters. One random person died, when millions die every day and nothing is seen or heard of them. This world is very messed up and taking f***ed up movie clips like that seriously just doesn't make sence.