ufo caught on bbc webcam during live broadcast

Originally posted by micpsi
If you were British, you would realise that, unlike in the Amazon jungles, there are no bugs in Britain large enough to create that image. The largest British 'bug' likely to be in acity like Newcastle is the bumble bee, which is dark (not light) coloured, and perhaps the dragon fly, which has a darting movement, not a motion as long and linear as that shown by the UFO.

As an explanation, bugs are out.

Well, then it must have been a white butterfly hopped up on coke. How else could it fly that fast? It's all over London you know...

Now that we do have a reasonable explanation for this 'exotic' object, I suggest we just forget about it and start talking about interesting things, such as what is gong on in "American Idol"

reply to post by Heliocentric


Here's a rod tale that may or may not interest you.

Around 2000 I was watching a nature program, on my new giant tv and satellite system Homer style.

Te program was shot in the African Savannah, hyenas , lions and all that.

The camera had just zoomed in for a close up of a small bird, when I saw a blur come through the frame.

I didn't actually think about it, well you don't, insects are everywhere so they seem to not require any thought.

For a moment though I was briefly (and I mean briefly ) curious about why the bird didn't go for the insect, it didn't seem to notice it, obviously too quick.Then I went back to being Homer and switched off my brain again.

Some hours afterward the bird thing was nagging me I vaguely recalled something somewhere in relation to super fast insects, so I went to check the VCR which had been on at the time as I was trying out all the equipment.

After what seemed like an eternity I found the bird sequence and watched it in slow mo, may find a super fast insect who knows. Weirdly it wasn't a case of the bird not seeing the insect, the insect appeared to go right through the bird !

I initially thought it must be the camera angle but after watching it over and over I couldn't see it go around the bird it went into the bird ! It messed with my head so much i turned it off and forgot about it for a couple of day.

Some time later time on my hands I was at the VCR again trying to freeze the frame at the exact moment the insect hit the bird.

What I first noticed trying to do this was the insect was like a stick and its' wings were a blur, then thinking of stick I remembered the something about super fast insects. It was something about rods but I hadn't been paying too much attention.

Hours and hours i spent trying to get this thing to still fame at the right moment, and eventually (much to the relief of my now ex wife lol) I got it.

I was like a kid with a new toy, and dragged the bemused wife to the TV. "What do you see?" I asked her, "a bloody bird, what the hell is wrong with you" she said but the a pointed out the insect , she was totally agog yup that thing went into the bird plain as day.

Then I remembered something about the wings and known insects supposed to have a given number but I couldn't remember.

i phoned a local Uni and spoke to Ben (hi Ben if you happen to be reading this) an entomologist, who confirmed insects have max 2 pairs of wings.

I then informed Ben that me and the ball and chain, were looking at a bug with 3 pairs of wings, Ben was skeptical obviously.

There they were though, somewhat blurred granted, but not blurred enough to be 2 pairs giving the impression of 3.

So there you go, a bug that looked like a mini broom handle with 3 pairs of wings and they weren't legs that gave the appearance of wings,. if they were then that thing was walking nowhere.

To this day I am convinced that the bug went straight through that bird and out the other side as much as my rational mind kicks my butt. The ex was in no doubt either and she spotted it without my pointing it out.

There you go cool tale, no video tape (as you guessed) I promised to give it to Ben but Teletubbies took over my ex wife's thought processing when the kids needed beating lol. Of course it was my fault for not marking the tape eat me and not, do not tape over bird, women aggh !

Originally posted by icarus78
news.bbc.co.uk...

not sure how to embed video, but will do screencaps if people cant view it.

i dont *think* it's a bird..

Some might be Bugs and others might be the craft with a
300mps or 1800mph top speed worked on by Tesla.
Guess someone stole it and didn't tell. Must cost a lot of
money keeping something like that and the cost of the
lies even more costly.

hello fellow geordies in this thread..

looking at the field of vision that the webcam offers, i was trying to work out where it was actually sited in related to the bridges and other landmarks [the sage gateshead is the silver building to the left of frame], the nearest building offering that height is quite some distance away from the millenium bridge [the bridge you can see people are standing on].

this leads me to conclude that the camera is 'zoomed' in on the sage building, millenium and tyne bridge, which means that there's every chance that what we're seeing is something rather small and fly-like that has flown past the camera, and this has created the illusion of an unidentified object travelling at speed and some distance, when in fact it was probably no further away than a matter of metres.

case closed?

ps. to anyone suggesting it's rc because there's people on the bridge; people often stand on the bridge at it's centre because of the photographic opportunity it affords to take pictures of the river's other bridges upstream [there's another 5 within the immediate vicinity]. there are no more bridges to the left as you look at it.

Originally posted by icarus78
hello fellow geordies in this thread..

looking at the field of vision that the webcam offers, i was trying to work out where it was actually sited in related to the bridges and other landmarks [the sage gateshead is the silver building to the left of frame], the nearest building offering that height is quite some distance away from the millenium bridge [the bridge you can see people are standing on].

this leads me to conclude that the camera is 'zoomed' in on the sage building, millenium and tyne bridge, which means that there's every chance that what we're seeing is something rather small and fly-like that has flown past the camera, and this has created the illusion of an unidentified object travelling at speed and some distance, when in fact it was probably no further away than a matter of metres.

case closed?

Yup!

Like I said way back, I think it's something close to the camera moving moving quite quickly.

......... a bug.

The perspective looks about normal to me, here are a couple of shots to compare with. The first picture is focused on the bridge.





I tell you what Sam, why don't take you bug theory to a professional entomologist, would be interesting to know what the pros has to say about it?

Let's see, the bug is white, round/oval/ kind of shapeless, should at least be the size of a football, flies in a straight line and is present in the London area.

I can see them entomologists scratching their heads...

Originally posted by Heliocentric
The perspective looks about normal to me, here are a couple of shots to compare with. The first picture is focused on the bridge.





I tell you what Sam, why don't take you bug theory to a professional entomologist, would be interesting to know what the pros has to say about it?

Let's see, the bug is white, round/oval/ kind of shapeless, should at least be the size of a football, flies in a straight line and is present in the London area.

I can see them entomologists scratching their heads...

OK.....

Maybe the bug isn't white. Maybe it's just reflective.

Maybe the bug isn't round. Maybe it's just out of focus.

Come on.....rods?

You're going to do yourself a mischief if you keep that up.

Be careful!

No matter what, until a UFO lands on the White House lawn with all the networks there.... UFO's will always be a product of the lunatic mind. A million sane people will never convince anyone of the truth. We are not alone. Just ask Admiral Byrd.

Originally posted by Sam60
OK.....

Maybe the bug isn't white. Maybe it's just reflective.

Maybe the bug isn't round. Maybe it's just out of focus.

Come on.....rods?

You're going to do yourself a mischief if you keep that up.

Be careful!

No, it's a misunderstanding.

Some other members suggested rods. I suggested an orb.

I simply defended the ROD phenomenon against a couple of members that were under the impression that rods are simply overexposed footage of insects. I explained to them how and why it wasn't so, that's all.

I still suggest this is an orb. In any case, the bug theory is flawed.

I froze the image at 0:13, you see the object (drawn out, comet-like) inside the left corner where the bridge and the bridge arc meets. I did it here because there's some dark background:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/4fc4f1b26707.png[/atsimg]

Here's a blow-up:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6f83a27f8a3e.png[/atsimg]

And another,

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b9f51baf44db.png[/atsimg]

The web cam seems to 'treat' the object as the other objects in the picture, therefore it is not 'out of focus'

It's increasingly difficult to freeze a good image of the object as it moves to the right. Conclusion; the object is closer to the web cam as it enters the frame (but far away enough), and moves away from the web cam (in the direction of the river), with degrading image quality as a result.

It is not a bug zipping in front of the lens.

The object is clearly white or clear reflective,

There seems to be a 'ball' with a tail, I believe that's due to speed and aperture, so the object is probably roundish or oval,

It does not look like a bug!

You take care too

[edit on 7-8-2009 by Heliocentric]

BUGS or BIRDS. USSUALLY BUGS

...and technical phenomenons regarding capturing images.
...and people not knowing those technical stuff.


Bugs filmed during the day.
Bugs can appear long and short.
Bugs can appear white or black. (depending on ilumination and bacground brightness)
Bugs can appear colored or translucid.
Bugs can appear moving straight or doing fast turns.
Bugs are a very likely occurence. Just 2 holidays not hunting them and i have already a big collection.

I don't like bugs.

But here they are:

r1
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a4e2b66bfd6a.jpg[/atsimg]

r4
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/eb663e9ca587.jpg[/atsimg]

r9
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/97f8c82fac9f.jpg[/atsimg]

r14
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c59261a28618.jpg[/atsimg]

r17
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/1a70784aad6a.jpg[/atsimg]

r21
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/2a6b16ff1eb3.jpg[/atsimg]



All of these frames extracted from this movie:





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More BUGS:

r2
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/064369a4a5d3.jpg[/atsimg]

r3
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/de78c9b11dcc.jpg[/atsimg]


r5
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f3bb19eb67f3.jpg[/atsimg]

and it's animation:

r18
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/1b3b6b4283f4.gif[/atsimg]


r6
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5070bf91e75d.jpg[/atsimg]
and from another part of the same shot:
r22
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/9ceab39254ad.jpg[/atsimg]



r7
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/caefca8b55a7.jpg[/atsimg]

and the corresponding animation:
r13
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/95f0b1a42460.gif[/atsimg]



r8
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b6653726a682.gif[/atsimg]

r10
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/cbe6a0a16d64.jpg[/atsimg]

r11
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6cf79cffbab2.gif[/atsimg]

r12
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d9c4e171a411.gif[/atsimg]

r23
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3f7c03f36900.jpg[/atsimg]

and the animation here:
r15
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5f327da89217.gif[/atsimg]




r16
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f9abc6232f80.jpg[/atsimg]
and the animation:
r20
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a0e5b96c628a.gif[/atsimg]



r19
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/1e43a4b22cee.jpg[/atsimg]


r24
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/e91ea0cc9772.gif[/atsimg]


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More bugs or birds?

Here is my collection:

www.freewebs.com...
www.freewebs.com...
www.freewebs.com...
www.freewebs.com...

(later edit: now i see i have some broken links in my free site... ussually links to the original pictures, which where too big for my primary used picture sharing site, imageshack.us, and therefore posted at picfu.com, which..lost them )


Damn those BUGS. It really can puzzle your brain...


p.s. all the animations are slowned down at half or third of real speed, because using GIF format.



[edit on 7/8/09 by depthoffield]

[edit on 7/8/09 by depthoffield]

Two reference shots:

One with object, at 0:13

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6f83a27f8a3e.png[/atsimg]

And one without, at 0:14

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d7e356628de5.png[/atsimg]

Go back and read through what I say about rods depthoffield, it could have saved you half an hour posting those pics

Originally posted by Heliocentric
Go back and read through what I say about rods depthoffield, it could have saved you half an hour posting those pics

I read it. I beginning to wonder if you work for Escamilla

Anyway, one thing for certain:
if you blow up (zoom) pictures much beyound their original resolution, you will interpolate them, and this ussually add false information. Now, in my links, have you recognize any BUG with it's head, wings or whatever? If you blow some of them you will also get strange result. (shapes etcetera). You will evidentiate all kind of compression artifacts etcetera. Pointless to blow up things and using as arguments.

[edit on 7/8/09 by depthoffield]

reply to post by depthoffield


That is definately no BUG!!

Did you not see how big that thing is? You can tell from the video that's way too big to be a BUG.

I think my explanation of it being a remote control plane is highly more likely than a BUG! In fact i would have believed you more if you had told me it was Superman!

Go check my video out on page before this......

[edit on 7-8-2009 by TruthxIsxInxThexMist]

reply to post by depthoffield

G'day Depthof field....it's nice to see you on the thread

So what do you think.....bug, bird, something else?

I think "bug"!

reply to post by Heliocentric

G'day again Heliocentric.

Hey....we're managing to keep this quite civilised

I'm not into orbs......

......& I still say "bug"!

BBC posts a video of a bug flying across a web cam and says they can't ID it!!!

i don't buy it, the BBC is one of the oldest and most prolific broadcasting companies in the world, if they aren't experts in identifying camera anomalies then i don't know how you become an expert. if it was a bug, their editing dept surely would have immediately said, "its a bug!! ufo? you idiots, it's a bug!".

if they say they can't identify it, i think it's foolhardy to dismiss it as a bug out of hand. if it was easily identifiable as something as common as an insect, they would have ID'ed it.

unless they're having some fun, see if it is picked up by the UFO community so they can later say "even a picture of a bug close to the screen will convince some UFO hunters....", which i wouldn't put past them.

reply to post by pieman

It's definitely bugs!

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/ef159f3335bb.jpg[/atsimg]

Hello, I found this news article on the BBC home page and was particularly interested. I came to these forums because I've seen interesting discussion here in the past and this seemed to be the most open minded debate about this event.

I'm posting because as this video is taken by a static camera it represents a good opportunity to remove the background and take a look at the anomaly without any surrounding noise. For the purpose of doing this I took the following two frames from the youtube version of the video:





Both frames contain the object that was caught on camera.

What we can easily do now is find the difference between the two frames. This is the result of that procedure:



As you can see there are no image artefacts that look like beating wings as you see in most "rods" that are caused by insects.

If the BBC could release a higher resolution version of the raw video we'd be able to make out more information.


[edit on 7-8-2009 by Crayfish]

reply to post by Sam60


so you've been saying, you've made your view clear in your previous posts, there's no need to bludgeon me with it.

[edit on 7/8/09 by pieman]

Originally posted by pieman
reply to post by Sam60

 

so you've been saying, you've made your view clear in your previous posts, there's no need to bludgeon me with it.

[edit on 7/8/09 by pieman]

It was just a joke.....

You know.... "bugs" ..... bunny......?