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The sun's magnetic field does reverse every 11 years but it does not "flip"

is there some semantic difference between the words "reverse" and "flip" that i'm not aware of?


reverse..... +/- changed to -/+

flip..... -/+ changed to +/-


perhaps you've your own definition of terms, but in my humble opinion, if a negative pole becomes a positive and a positive pole becomes a negative, that does indeed constitute a use of the term "flip in polarity"


perhaps i've mistaken, though.

please enlighten me if this is the case.

reply to post by Phage


I think the problem as you pointed out is the understanding of terms. If the sun as I have my self pointed out is going to wake up with some what of a bang then people should worry.. not doom and gloom but it will effect our planet "we just do not know how" to be honest.

The next one starts in 2011.. thats when it begins.. will it max out in 2012? or 13? who knows..

But the evidence is clear the sun is doing some odd stuff right now "no spots" none for the past 300 years we have seen ZIP from our sun....

If i was to make a calculated guess?

I would say the sun is going to wake up and shed a lot of mass.

Let us not for get that the sun as it gets older GROWS and what does that mean?

well it has to eject mass of some sort in order for it to do so...

Like a snake that sheds its skin.

I hope im wrong but the signs are not good from were i am sitting.

good luck to us all

reply to post by Nathan_Orin

Flip connotes (in fact, many define it as) a very rapid inversion; to flip a coin, the acrobat did a flip, flipping burgers. When he says this, Kaku makes a rapid "flipping" motion with his hands.
(I flipped out when he said that.)


The solar reversal is neither a simple, or rapid flip.

And yes, the precise connotation of the word is important. Kaku is skilled at selecting words for their impact.

[edit on 8/3/2009 by Phage]

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
But the evidence is clear the sun is doing some odd stuff right now "no spots" none for the past 300 years we have seen ZIP from our sun....

What??


In November of 2008 there were 5 sunspots.
In December of 2007 there were 10 sunspots.
In November of 2006 there were 21 sunspots.
In December of 2005 there were 41 sunspots.
solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov...

The cycle went down, the cycle will go up.

[edit on 8/4/2009 by Phage]

This is EXACTLY the message that I've been reading from Matthew Ward.
I highly reccomend those who are interested check out the essay on 2012 & the ascension here: www.matthewbooks.com...
and the rest of his messages: www.matthewbooks.com...

Whoever said that they feel that time is going by faster is exactly right. I think I read that we go through 1 day in what would've been 3, due to the higher vibrations the Earth is going into.
Thank you very much for your post, Mulder

reply to post by Phage

from nasa...

"...when the sun's poles flip."

science.nasa.gov...

you should let them know that they've got it wrong...seems important.

reply to post by chiron613

These predictions have several things in common: 1. They're going to happen "Real Soon Now(tm)". 2. They're a result of forces external to us. 3. Mankind is a mess, and we're either going to be saved or punished 4. They're aways wrong

You forgot to add: 5. They make a buttload of money. 6. they end up famous for as long as their prediction is in the 'future'. Once it's history, they move on to another bottle of snake oil. 7. Religious freaks seem to profit a LOT from it.

Hey OP, I respect you for your thoughts and opinions. Now what I say here is what I see you as and I'll tell you why I think that.

I think you are a CIA agent or a disinfo agent and here is how I came to that conclusion. The world is plunging into a dark abyss, the only way out seems to be if we work together and act quickly rather then wait for the ascension. Here you are telling people don't worry about wars, famine, or hunger because after 2012 there will be no such thing.

Well if we fail to act soon, if 2012 passes and nothing happens, we would be in a worse off place then we are today. We are trying to pass off our problems to dreams and fairy tales rather then tackle them head on.

You are misleading these people from our problems to a fantasy future which is not written in stone. That my friend is why I think you are a disinfo agent.

i know a change is gona come like the song says,i feel it in my dreams especially,because i've been receiving some interesting information in them

reply to post by Nathan_Orin

Ok. The breakdown and rebuilding of the solar magnetic field over a period of months is "officially" a flip.

I'm still a little confused about how to determine when the flip actually occurs though. Apparently what happened in the 2000-2001 solar max is that the northern hemisphere of the sun began to flip in early 2000, leaving the sun with two north poles and two south poles in November. The south pole did not complete its flip until May of 2002.

I found this article which does a pretty good job of describing what happened. A period of intense activity ran from 1999 to 2000. During this period there were more than 5 CMEs each day, sometimes a lot more than that. Even though sunspot activity peaked in July of 2000 the increase in CMEs continued until October of 2002.
spaceflightnow.com...

So it took two years for the sun to complete its magnetic flip. Intense activity started in the year prior to the beginning of the flip and continued for months after the flip was completed. Maybe it's just me but it sounds a bit melodramatic and alarmist to say, "Every eleven years the sun's magnetic field flips, releasing a shockwave of radiation." I think more than a few people take that to mean there is going to suddenly be this tremendous blast from the sun.

That's not the way it works. The activity rises to a peak then subsides. At any time during that period there can and will be flares and CMEs, some stronger than others. Some will be pointed at Earth and others won't. It happens every 11 years. We are more vulnerable in some aspects because of our dependence on electricity and satellites and maybe that's why Kaku was being so dramatic, to drive the point home. But there is no reason to anticipate a catastrophic event.

Originally posted by Phage
In May of 2009 new data caused the prediction to be revised.
www.swpc.noaa.gov...

From the above link...

CONSENSUS STATEMENT OF THE SOLAR CYCLE 24 PREDICTION PANEL March 20, 2007

May 8, 2009

Solar Cycle 24 Prediction Update May 8, 2009 -- The Solar Cycle 24 Prediction Panel has reached a consensus decision on the prediction of the next solar cycle (Cycle 24). First, the panel has agreed that solar minimum occurred in December, 2008. This still qualifies as a prediction since the smoothed sunspot number is only valid through September, 2008. The panel has decided that the next solar cycle will be below average in intensity, with a maximum sunspot number of 90. Given the predicted date of solar minimum and the predicted maximum intensity, solar maximum is now expected to occur in May, 2013. Note, this is a consensus opinion, not a unanimous decision. A supermajority of the panel did agree to this prediction.

Recent Changes to Solar Cycle Values and Plots

March 2, 2009 -- The Solar Cycle 24 Prediction Panel has not issued any updates to their prediction. However, the Space Weather Prediction Center, and the Chair of the Prediction Panel decided to implement what they believe to be an obvious change to the plotted data. The two predictions, of maximum being either a SSN of 90 or a SSN of 140 remain intact. Once the date of solar minimum is known, that is all the information needed to arrive at a prediction curve. The panel prediction of solar minimum in March, 2008 has been eclipsed.Minimum will now occur no earlier than August, 2008. For every month beyond March 2008 that minimum slips, it is necessary to shift the prediction curves by the same amount. SWPC commenced doing so in mid-February and will continue to do so, unless or until the prediction panel sets a new predicted date for the time of solar minimum.

Source

So we know not all are in agreement, and considering it may be a SSN 140, should we not be concerned a little? Does anyone know the highest SSN there has been in the past?

In March 1989, a solar storm much less intense than the perfect space storm of 1859 caused the Hydro-Quebec (Canada) power grid to go down for over nine hours, and the resulting damages and loss in revenue were estimated to be in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

Source

reply to post by Phage


im sure it will

www.abovetopsecret.com...

feel free to read

Enjoy

posted on 31-5-2009 @ 10:21 PM single this post "quote"REPLY TO: The Sun and 2012 Well I have just been surfing as you do.. and came across this www.newscientist.com... now i shall put some info from the link IT IS midnight on 22 September 2012 and the skies above Manhattan are filled with a flickering curtain of colourful light. Few New Yorkers have seen the aurora this far south but their fascination is short-lived. Within a few seconds, electric bulbs dim and flicker, then become unusually bright for a fleeting moment. Then all the lights in the state go out. Within 90 seconds, the entire eastern half of the US is without power. Keep reading www.nap.edu... More? www.newscientist.com... you bet! and now ? www.space.com... interesting? www.space.com... what is going on ?? and this ? www.projectcamelot.org...

just in case you do not hit the link or if anyone wants to view the evidence

reply to post by dalan.


well said!!!

Ok fine, so the sun is going to blast our planet. What's the dig deal? You're alive today. Don't ever waste a today with worry about tommorow.

Live each day as if it were your last. Let the people you love know just how much you do care. Do the things you have always wanted to if you are able. Life is such a precious gift, why waste it with worry.

What will come to pass will come to pass. That which you have the power to change, change it. When you have done those things you will truly be free.

nothing 'bad' will happen in 2012,however,we will be aware of something approaching that is not so good. its all in the interview with a man from 2097 thread.

@ Spooky Fox Mulder who began this thread.
@ anyone else

Spooky name but nicely spoken, whoever your friend might be... I affirm what you say. But their is much work to be done. Just as you said that some will not understand and some will.... Many do not, many have their heart fixed on negativity.

I want these people here to know, they who don't see what's around them, and that there are so much wanderfull things. It's just that those little things can make you a new person indeed.
Ever saw that docu "The Secret" ? That tells that we are co-creator of our own reality ? Let me take that example of never have to search for a parking space, well... I don't have to search for a parking space ! While other just pass by that empty parking space for a reason or another close to the entrance of whatever building it is... Even this has be proven scientifically. We ARE co-creators of our own reality, of our own future unexpected things to occur. We are creating all that.

But if most of you want to know if 2012 could be real or not ... just ask the Black Ops, they know !

Ask the Vatican, they know

Ask those freemasons societies... they know

Ask...

Enough said. If you would look inside yourself, make contact with that part of you, learn to accept other things that have been tought to you, tho they are not all that childish. Listen to people that talks with 2 tongues, learn to read between the lines. Open your heart and mind. Nothing is a coincidence, nothing. Learn from other who speaks about peace and love, they love to share what they know. Think about what they say, question them but analyse the meaning of their words. Analyse yourself.

You would be surprised what is stored inside of you, those wanderfull daily things such as telepathy, intuitive feeling, visiting other places without leaving the place you are in and so much more. These are elements of daily life ! This is posible NOW, many of earth knows this for a fact ! You do NOT need to be a spiritual teacher for enjoying all those great things.

Do not be so negative, I know life's hard on earth where we are so conditioned, so brainwashed so manipulated. So don"t let them do that any further to you and do the opposite, do the positive. Think positive, try to discover who you are. Proof is all around you, proof is in you and you are the proof. They do not want you to discover this fact, ask the vatican, ask those who knows about the great pyramides all around the world that stood up once in all their proud.

When you are in a phase that you can not hate anymore... your life will be different cause you are different within your heart. And you were always that beautifull !
I do not hate Bush junior, I do not hate Hitler, I can not hate. But I do NOT agree with their actions at all. I forgive them. And you... do you ? Can you forgive someone else ? Did you figured already out that if someone's issue does opset you that it is because that issue is also yours ?

Many of you speaks with a scared mindset. Do not fear what's yours. Those things coming from the NWO, those activities that ARE indeed a fact, they are a dying species. They can have some high moments but they are nothing but shallow. Do not be trapped withing their charade.
You have a free will, this can never been taking away from you even when it seems that way. Choose for peace, choose for love in your heart. True love has never been a burden but a joy. Choose...

If you reached the end of my message, you have been showing yourself patiently. I thank you for this. Many lifeforms outside our world does exists
indeed. This I can affirm to you. Once I shall come home. Many of you will know on a certain moment who they really are, just before the going into 2012 stage will be interesting. At that moment you will have a free choice. There's no doubt about this.

I wish you a wanderfull learning voyage.

Originally posted by dalan.
reply to post by Spooky Fox Mulder

 

I just wanted to add that the more negative posts on here gave me a mental image of the dark space that surrounds us trying to convince a star to stop "burning so brightly, what is the point, you are surrounded by darkness."

[edit on 8/2/2009 by dalan.]

That is just beautiful, Dalan.

To the OP: It bothers me that you would post something like this in a discussion forum yet be unwilling to participate in a discussion about what was posted. We've got some people angry, some people intuitively supportive, some blindly supportive, and some wavering. A little context and original thought would be appreciated. It would give this otherwise good post some weight.

Edit: Want to add some love for Phage. You rock.

[edit on 4-8-2009 by Elepheagle]

reply to post by Spooky Fox Mulder


Greetings Mulder,
Good insights on 2012.

The Ascension is the transformation .

Someone asked how if Huamnity Ascends will that help Earth.

Because many Humans will be ready for the next level or vibration of existance.

Its also the time for the great uplifting of Humanity .

2012 will not be uneventful but just the opposite .

You will just need to relax and wait .

Blessings Love and Light,
CmdrAleon

well...it was very pleasent reading the post. Even if ALL THIS IS BS...if ALL THIS IS A LIE...the bottom line is, is the OP is still making this world a better place.
THINK ABOUT IT, if everyone read this, and it was a hoax...BUT EVERYONE changed for the better....