Photo - Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate (political fraud)

reply to post by truthtothemasses


MORE PROOF OF THE AUSSIE BC BEING A FAKE!

I wish I could take credit for the following, but I can't, although it's in the area that really concerned me - the bottom paragraph. Anyway, look closely at the signature - the "Deputy Registrar" part of the form is OVER TOP of the signature/stamp!



Man, I could kick myself for not catching that.

Next?

Here's something else I learned - open both the Australian and Kenyan documents in Photoshop Elements. From there under the Image menu "Divide Scanned Photos". Nothing should appear on the Kenyan document, however six layers should peal away from the Australian one!

These layers should all show distortion:

Layer 1 - Date and Place of Birth
Layer 2 - Father (followed by) Name, Surname, Age and B
Layer 3 - Name, Surname and Birthplace
Layer 4 - Issue [ Living Deceased
Layer 5 - Signature, Description Informant
Layer 6 - The entire right section of the page, specifically the inserted text fields and bottom right quadrant

reply to post by GLDNGUN


Holy crap. I honestly didn't see that coming. Good job catching the sig part GLDNGUN. I would have never saw that myself. Now the question is who the hell did this?

Originally posted by FollowTheConstitution
reply to post by lee anoma

 

I'd say Obama has done a pretty good job of it so far! His puppet masters who pull his strings have gone to a lot of trouble to pull this off. Including murder!

Might I enquire as to who was murdered in order to keep Obama out of trouble? And who are these so called "puppet masters" so speak of?

Originally posted by GLDNGUN
Again, nobody is saying that it isn't "legit". What they are saying is that even if it is a legit announcement it does NOT mean that Obama was born in Hawaii.

If you are talking about the 'birth announcements' in the news paper .. I definately am saying they are not legitimate. The addresses given in the announcements go to an address that the Obamas didn't live at. It's been proven. The announcements can't be used as 'proof' of anything because they are bogus.

Originally posted by lee anoma
The 46 year old birth announcements are being denounced as being possibly fraudulent by the birther crowd. This is easy to do when they present NO legitimate evidence to the contrary.

No lee anoma ... the evidence was given that the Obamas never lived where the so-called birth announcements said they lived. The announcements can NOT be used as a source of information to prove he was born in Hawaii because they are flat out wrong.

We have two 40+ year old birth announcement ads from two different major Newspapers in Hawaii.

... and both are wrong.

Site #1

Info here

The address listed is 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, and was the residence of Orland Scott Lefforge, a Professor at UH at Manoa, Dept. of Speech. Later, he became an assistant to Sen. Daniel Inouye in 1967. After that he wrote a paper about “In service Training as an Instrument of Change” (1971). He was also an administrator in the UH Community College office, and a member of the Osher Institute. He died July 4, 2007 at the age of 91. His wife/companion Thelma Jones Lefforge Young died June 12, 2008.

Ten days from Lefforge’s death is plenty of time to cut, typeset, & paste a new birth announcement. From what I’ve read, the announcements were scanned and emailed by the librarian in Hawaii to a blogger named Lori and then to the TD [texasdarling.wordpress.com] blog.

In 1961 the Dunhams lived on Kamehameha Avenue, while Obama Sr. lived on 11th Avenue. The Lefforge family, including their 3 children under the age of seven were residing at the luxury home listed on Obama’s newly found birth announcement — 6085 Kalanianaole Highway.

FOR THE RECORD - not that it matters - I have said this before and I'm saying it now - i do believe he was probably born in Hawaii but that he's hiding something on his paperwork that he's got locked up in the vault. You just can't use those announcements to prove Hawaiian birth. They are in error.


If Obama would just release his vault paperwork that is in Hawaii then all this could go away.

*** Unless line 18a is checked off on his 1961 birth certificate that is locked up. That means a relative could have registered the birth while he was still out of the country. That's what I've read online anyways. We won't know unless he releases his paperwork. Perhaps line 18a is what is being hidden?? If he'd just release it ... it's all up to him ...

Sorry if this was already posted (this thread moves way to fast to keep up with everything)

Australian ABC found the man whose birth certificate was copied.
Listen to the interview here:

www.abc.net.au...

His birth certificate was up on the net and they managed to find it.

Here's a 1964 “certified copy of registration of birth” from Australia, easily available on Bomford.net, a genealogy site. There are striking similarities between this document and the one Orly Taitz is passing off as a “Kenyan birth certificate” for Barack Obama.

- The design is identical, down to the seal at the top and the classifications (”Christian name,” etc) used for identifying the baby.

- The “registrar” on the Bomford document is G.F. Lavender. On the Taitz document, it’s E.F. Lavender.

- The “district registrar” on the Bomford document is J.H. Miller. On the Taitz document, it’s M.H. Miller.

- The number of the book is identical on both documents: Book 44B, Page 5733.

What’s more likely — that two Kenyan bureaucrats shared last names with two Australian bureaucrats, and that the numbers on both certificates were identical? Or that someone used this document, available online for anyone who wanted to look, to forge the Obama “certificate?”

sorry again if this has already been posted !

It could be faked it may not be faked whether it be true or not I still think Obama is a scary man and a fraud.

In fact I made a video about what would happen if Obama was found out to be a Kenyan born citizen:

I will credit you this flyersfan...unlike some blithers...you have the integrity to admit that it is a forgery when the evidence came out as opposed to still going with it regardless...now if you would just go back and look at all the other dubious claims about his lack of a birth certificate you would find the lies there as well.

Originally posted by XyZeR

- The design is identical, down to the seal at the top and the classifications (”Christian name,” etc) used for identifying the baby.

What seal at the top is identical? There is no seal at the top, and if they are talking about the coat of arms, both are very different.

“Christian names” is used on a lot of countries Birth Certs, especially former British Colonies.

Both the Aussie one and Kenyan one could be fake.

Mikey





[edit on 4/8/2009 by Mikey84]

reply to post by XyZeR


Very good, XyZeR. That sums it up pretty well. We'll have to check out the story more but it certainly is looking more and more like this is a hoax. we can't know for sure without the original document of course, but it's certainly looking more and more like it.

In my opening post I said 'this should be fun' and never said one way or the other if it was a hoax or authentic. I'm thinking this has been a lot of fun and a great exercise in digging in and discovering the truth about things.

reply to post by grover


I wish she didn't, it kills the momentum. I hope this doesn't deter her and others to find other 'evidence' regarding Obama's birth place. She said it herself, that it's gonna be fun.

You know, some time ago there's a vote regarding the top ten conspiracy of all time. I asked in the thread, why Obama's BC is not in the top ten.

I respect your sincerity FlyersFan
Off course everyone is entitled to stay sceptical about this, but that's their choice.

For me personally, after all I've seen I've made my mind up that this is indeed a forgery, a smartly executed one at that (the troll who fabricated this is not a dummy it seems, he almosty got it perfect)

It was indeed fun trying to discover what the truth was in all of this, even though we were searching at completly different ends of the spectrum

Originally posted by XyZeR
Sorry if this was already posted (this thread moves way to fast to keep up with everything)

Australian ABC found the man whose birth certificate was copied.
Listen to the interview here:

www.abc.net.au...

Trouble with that is that Bomford seems not to have checked his birth certificate to see if it has been altered and tampered with, but merely said-

DAVID JEFFREY BOMFORD: It's little old me and my mum and everything else up there. Oh I definitely confirm that the birth certificate was mine. That was quite easy to see - my address, even the style of the birth certificate was an old South Australian one.

So has he checked the registrars names and the numbers....no...just that it's his address and the style of an old South Australian one. So it's all still open to debate really.

reply to post by FlyersFan


I love it - the Kenya thing's a fraud. Less than five minutes of Googling will tell you that. But still people want it to be real.

The guy who runs Free Republic already determined that it's a fake. And you know the Freepers would love to have something like this to point to - if it was real.

Lots of disappointed Freepers...

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reply to post by Nightflyer28

Did you see this post?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Are you saying they are both fake? (That's sort of my thought, but I don't have any good proof about which one is fake or real).

I guess i don't understand. The " 7d 6s" if the price for form 495. The book and the page number is the location of the original birth certificate inside the master book of all birth certificates. Whether in Australia or Kenya, the registrars are the same so the name should be the same. Why aren't both copies legit?

Originally posted by brjam
I guess i don't understand. The " 7d 6s" if the price for form 495. The book and the page number is the location of the original birth certificate inside the master book of all birth certificates. Whether in Australia or Kenya, the registrars are the same so the name should be the same. Why aren't both copies legit?

That is the direction I was starting to think. You can't honestly say that the Kenya one is made from the AU one. We have lots of people on here from AU and Brits alike. One of them can't do a little research to find out how BC's were done for both of these back then?

reply to post by FlyersFan


Me thinks I'm Un-Ignored.

Either that or you have a 'mole' and are in violation of T&C to 'gang' up on a member.

Thanks for addressing my post verbatim.

For the record I HAVE NOT BEEN WARNED on this thread. (I had 2 posts removed)

Perhaps someone is confusing exposing the truth as being a troll.
Besides, I'm not a troll. I'm a boy.

By definition the planting or spreading of erroneous, uncorroborated lies or hearsay is the "art of disinformation".

misinformation that is deliberately disseminated in order to influence or confuse rivals

wordnetweb.princeton.edu...

Disinformation is false or inaccurate information that is spread deliberately. It is synonymous with and sometimes called Black propaganda. It may include the distribution of forged documents, manuscripts, and photographs, or spreading malicious rumors and fabricated intelligence. ...

(Bold emphasis above added by me.)

en.wikipedia.org...

I suspect you are a Master Artist of Disinfo, but I think I'll pass on your next exhibition.

Oh and thanks for the "meds" reminder. I almost forgot.
They prevent me from saying what I really feel.

Regards...KK



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