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PROJECT ISIS: The KGB's Discovery of The Tomb of The Visitor

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posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 02:03 PM
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This one's for you ZORGON me old buddy/, me pal, me friend!!

well....they do say many a truth is spoken in jest, and if the guy's who made this video where hoaxers then obviously they where jesting!!

ergo...there is probably a reason for this being a hoax, who knows what kind of misinformation agents have been collaborating together on this video to hide the truth in plain site!!(well, this is a conspiracy site after all!
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posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 02:09 PM
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Nice. Thanks for the vids...I always loved that footage.

How many octaves does sound need to transpose before it is light? Do you know? Is it 88 octaves?

Thanks again.



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by letthereaderunderstandMeans Son of Levi and the gospel...Gotta get back in time.


Don't forget also this incident



Caption
The walls of Jericho crumble as the Israelite priest blows his horn in this illustration from a 14th century Icelandic manuscript

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 02:22 PM
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Nonsense video and the premises it sets out are inaccurate. There is extensive archaeological evidence showing the evolution of ancient Egypt over 10 thousands years and more.



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 02:28 PM
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reply to post by zorgon

Just like the octaves in music are separated so too did those water spheres levitate at certain heights.
 




This is particularly interesting to me. Pythagoreas spent some time in Egypt, and it is believed that he was indoctrinated into the Mysteries (that esoteric "secret society" that is prevalent in all cultures) of Egypt. One of the things he picked up while in Egypt was music. Not just drum beats, but string music.

He so loved string music that he would often pronounce that music made by any other method (horns, flutes, drums) was profane and not worthy of his ears. His favorite instrument was a 7 stringed lyre. The esoteric meanings behind why the instrument had 7 strings is very interesting (but too far off topic for this thread....at least right now).

The reason i bring this up....it would seem that the Egyptians were the originators of music. Pythagoreas picked up his interest in music while traveling into India and Egypt. He spent so much time and effort on his musical research that he developed a medical system using music. Before his students met each day, they would play music. Not music for entertainment, but rather music meant to prepare the mind.

Resonant sound waves seem to be an oft running theme, especially in the research i have undertaken over the last month. Pythagoreas' more secret teachings were lost to the ages in the fire that killed him. But that are some very tantalizing clues that can be had regarding what some of those teachings were. The blending of mathematics, mysticism, and music.

[edit on 26-7-2009 by bigfatfurrytexan]



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by masonwatcher
Nonsense video and the premises it sets out are inaccurate. There is extensive archaeological evidence showing the evolution of ancient Egypt over 10 thousands years and more.



You might want to tell Egyptology this. It would seem that you are holding information that no one else i have ever met is holding.



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by masonwatcherThere is extensive archaeological evidence showing the evolution of ancient Egypt over 10 thousands years and more.


You mean like the rope theory when Egypt didn't have strong rope?



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 02:49 PM
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It might not levitate stone

www.thinkgeek.com...

but i sure get looks as I wave it inside a pc while repairing it




posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by hisshadow
but i sure get looks as I wave it inside a pc while repairing it


Way cool
Just ordered one... Does it do anything? If not mine soon will



UPDATE

Just found a big version of the Alien reconstruct from the video..




Also someone earlier guffawed about the scientist being a UROLOGIST

"Astro physicist, neurologist and science advisor in advanced propulsion system gained access to the files of Project Isis...."[/i]

NEUROLOGIST not Urologist



This was a top secret project brought about by KBG concerning the discovery of the Tomb of the Visitor in 1961.

Up until SCI-FI purchased this exclusive footage from an agent of the Russian Mafia, it had never been seen outside the top secret facilities of the KGB. SCI-FI showed it one time on television and as it stands today, no evidence of this film or the project is available. ..except what we have copies of here given to us by a client that had taped the original show.

This video is a a powerful documentary with actual footage filmed by the KGB and verified by specialists in the fields for SCI-FI to be authentic film footage.


So this was aired on TV bt Sci-Fi

Lots more on this here... just reading it now
www.burlingtonnews.net...



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon


Also someone earlier guffawed about the scientist being a UROLOGIST

"Astro physicist, neurologist and science advisor in advanced propulsion system gained access to the files of Project Isis...."[/i]

NEUROLOGIST not Urologist




Yeah, well that same post had horrible punctuation and couldn't spell Kremlin correctly. I am not one of those that will poke fun at poor spelling...but in this case it might give us a clue into said posters true credentials (which he claims are fairly extensive, despite the appearance).



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 03:15 PM
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Just finished watching all 8 episodes (again), although many of the actors and actresses and videos in these episodes are highly suspicious. I believe there is some truth to this.

Ever since I was 9 years old I have been fascinated in egyptology and the pyramids, I have been researching for almost 22 years now and from about the age of 16 I came up with the idea (after a dream) that 'they; must have used sound or some levitaton device to lift these huge stones. To say that slaves lifted them in to place with so much precision that you can't get a razor blade down the mortar joints is just ludicrously ignorant.

After watching these episodes there is one thing that stuck in my mind that I have an afiiiation with, the fact that the archeologists found inside the rock a strong MAGNETIC force? something tells me that this is the place to start looking, I don't buy the whole astrological beacon idea, I do believe that the pyramids were used as machines but I have a strange gut feeling that this was to create something much bigger than we can comprehend at the moment. Maybe some kind of energy stem?

Also what struck a chord is the reconstruction of the alien face, I am 100% sure without a shadow of a doubt that is what 'they' look like, my heart started beating and I had a flashback of something that happed to me when I was a kid (to my knowledge I have never been abducted) but I just thought about when I got lost once when I was young very wierd indeed, which has got me writing a long post.

OP As always I and everyone else appreciate your work, you obviously have alot of knowledge and research and we are all happy that you decide to share it on this site.

I do have my eye on you though Z with all this knowledge how come you haven't been picked off yet?



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 03:15 PM
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Egypt's Oldest Known Art Identified, Is 15,000 Years Old


Dan Morrison in Cairo, Egypt
for National Geographic News
July 11, 2007

Rock face drawings and etchings recently rediscovered in southern Egypt are similar in age and style to the iconic Stone Age cave paintings in Lascaux, France, and Altamira, Spain, archaeologists say.

"It is not at all an exaggeration to call it 'Lascaux on the Nile,'" said expedition leader Dirk Huyge, curator of the Egyptian Collection at the Royal Museums of Art and History in Brussels, Belgium.

news.nationalgeographic.com...



Mud tomb found near oldest Egypt pyramid

Mud Brick Tomb Built More Than 4,000 Years Ago Discovered Near Egypt's Most Ancient Pyramid

Staff
AP News

Feb 19, 2007 12:39 EST

A mud brick tomb dating back more than 4,000 years has been discovered near Egypt's most ancient pyramid in the Saqqara complex south of Cairo, antiquities official announced Monday. The tomb, which was found by an Egyptian-Australian mission, belonged to Ka-Hay, who kept divine records, and his wife, said Zahi Hawass, Egypt's antiquities chief. Excavators found five wooden statues depicting the tomb's owner and his wife in a niche at the tomb's forefront. Among the wooden figures was a unique double statue of a seated Ka-Hay and his wife, Hawass said.

www.blnz.com...


How about reading up on the subject.


Proto Pharaohnic Egypt formed in the upper Nile while the Lower Nile Egypt was an agrarian society with very little technology. The know how and pyramid builders came from the Aswan to the south. Even the pyramid buildings show an evaluation.

With unification of the Upper and Lower Egypt, at about 4000 years BC, there was an explosion of advancement that display the linear development of Aswan culture. Wealth was the propellant.

[edit on 033131p://pm3104 by masonwatcher]



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 03:23 PM
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Wow that was a good documentary.... there seems to be a lot of evidence. The footage of the Russians being abducted, and the reaction of the daughter to the video seemed real to me but the guy with the hidden camera sounded like an actor.


[edit on 26-7-2009 by kronos11]



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 03:26 PM
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More... seems that one thing was missing in the youtube clips but is on the DvD and the Google Netherlands version

That little piece is a very important one...

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f74fd20d5922.png[/atsimg]

So looking up the names will not help us a lot and explains why they yield nothing. I will go look again at Part one but I did not see it... but here it is in the full length google version


Google Video Link



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 03:32 PM
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How about some of us don't place much trust in mainstream archeologists?



How about this one...

Discovery of 12,000 Year Old temple Complex
Could Alter Theory of Human Development
www.thelivingmoon.com...

This was built with very detailed carvings in a time before man was supposed to have pottery

And this one is documented by main stream archaeology


Göbekli Tepe, Turkey
9000 BC



One of the carvings on the pillars




posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by masonwatcher



A mud brick tomb dating back more than 4,000 years has been discovered near Egypt's most ancient pyramid in the Saqqara complex south of Cairo, antiquities official announced Monday. The tomb, which was found by an Egyptian-Australian mission, belonged to Ka-Hay, who kept divine records, and his wife, said Zahi Hawass, Egypt's antiquities chief. Excavators found five wooden statues depicting the tomb's owner and his wife in a niche at the tomb's forefront. Among the wooden figures was a unique double statue of a seated Ka-Hay and his wife, Hawass said.

www.blnz.com...


So someone build another tomb beside the ancient pyramid... this proves what exactly? We have built cities over old ruins too...



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posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 03:41 PM
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'ere Zorgon... have you ever heard of the lost pyramids of Caral? It was apparently discovered in 2001 that it was purported to be a whole 1000 years older than the earliest known civilisation previously known in the America's. Archeollogist's believe that they are the fabled "mother city" the missing link so to speak of archeology, and if right then this missing link will maybe help scholars to understand why humans became civilised!! But thats just one opinion amongst many, and i do believe myself, personally, that we go way further back in time, and by the way, the earliest known civilisation to date in that area apart from this discovery in 2001 is 2627 bc, and at that time, 'supposedly' (emphasis on the supposedly!) there was only 6 mother civilisations on the Earth at this point and they where..... Egypt, China,Peru,Mesopotamia,Central America and India.

Just a little bit of food for thought, thought I would throw that right in there, my participation in this I suppose, was starting to feel a little left out!!
Apologies for a slighly longwinded explanation if you or anyone else monitoring this thread already knows about this!
s+f by the way buddy, great stuff!!!


p.s. there is a documentary done by the BBC on this, and you can find it on youtube....

p.p.s. I am in the U.K. and when i watched part 8 it ran all the way to the end...


[edit on 26-7-2009 by DARREN1976]



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 04:53 PM
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The development of pyramids was a process. Not all Egyptians got buried in pyramids. The earliest pyramids were constructed of mud up to 10 thousand years ago, roughly the same time the Sphinx was constructed. Anceint Egypt was made up of two kingdoms sited at the Lower and Upper Niles. The older of the two kingdoms was the Upper Nile kindom otherwise known as Nubian kingdom of the Aswan.

The Nubian kingdom produced the first stone pyramids;

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a283629a5371.gif[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/04a1dc5a34fa.jpg[/atsimg]


By the time both the Lower and Upper kingdoms unified, pyramid building evolved into the step form to achieve perfect proportions at about 5000 BC.
This is the Step Pyramid of Djozer

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/34f588a158ed.jpg[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/9a74f78dd669.jpg[/atsimg]

By 4000 BC in an attempt to refine construction techniques the bent pyramid form started to appear.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3799b74b2c41.jpg[/atsimg]

Eventually proportion and construction techniques were so refined that the elegant Red Pyramid was constructed.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/13a6b4eb1725.jpg[/atsimg]

By roughly 3000 years the Pyramids of Giza were built;

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f18c5850d6f5.jpg[/atsimg]

Egyptian advancement was a linear process that has been well documented. The only reason mystery and romance surrounds the ancient Egyptians is because they were a forgotten civilisation and no one could interpret hieroglyphics until the discovery of the Rosetta Stone in 1799.

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posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 06:11 PM
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That's all well and good if you accept the traditional view of history that is brainwashed into us.

The bent pyramid was not simply a different design, but a construction change due to not being able to continue raising the structure at the intended angle because of faults appearing in the lower strata.

How is it possible that ancient egyptians can go from building poor quality mud brick pyramids and in a very short time are evolved enough to create out of stone the massive structures that we today cannot hope to recreate..at all?

Pyramid building from my perspective shows the great pyramid as being the first built, and all others as poor quality attempts to copy. The great pyramid is recorded in Sumerian History as having been in existence from immediately after the "flood", when it was built with one of it's tasks being as a guidance beacon to incoming Anunnaki ships... and yes this was recorded before the date ascribed by history to the great pyramid.

I think you will find Cheops was an arrogantly egocentric ruler who cleand up around the sphinx and pyramids in order to usurp their already ancient greatness for himself as ruler.. a great move providing him with massive kudos in history.

Not once ever has a human corpse been found inside the pyramids, they simply never were tombs as Mr. Hawass would like us all to continue believing.

Lastly, anything said by Zahi Hawass should be taken with a grain of salt. Research into how the guy got his position and you will see this man employs deceit and had no qualms doing so. So he cannot be trusted to offer truth of anything that does not sit with his view of ancient egyptian history.

History is written only by the Victorious, and we all know how much humans like to blow their own trumpet even if it means not ascribing the truth to history.



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by masonwatcher
The development of pyramids was a process. Not all Egyptians got buried in pyramids.


Regarding The Great Pyramid, there is no real evidence that anyone was ever buried there. That is not science.




The earliest pyramids were constructed of mud up to 10 thousand years ago, roughly the same time the Sphinx was constructed.


Does this not seem strange to you? They were making mud pyramids at the same time that they made something as astounding as the Sphynx?

And what about the theory that the Sphynx was created when the stones for the GP were quarried? That is the line that Hawass promotes.



Anceint Egypt was made up of two kingdoms sited at the Lower and Upper Niles. The older of the two kingdoms was the Upper Nile kindom otherwise known as Nubian kingdom of the Aswan.

The Nubian kingdom produced the first stone pyramids;

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a283629a5371.gif[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/04a1dc5a34fa.jpg[/atsimg]


By the time both the Lower and Upper kingdoms unified, pyramid building evolved into the step form to achieve perfect proportions at about 5000 BC.
This is the Step Pyramid of Djozer

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/34f588a158ed.jpg[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/9a74f78dd669.jpg[/atsimg]

By 4000 BC in an attempt to refine construction techniques the bent pyramid form started to appear.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3799b74b2c41.jpg[/atsimg]

Eventually proportion and construction techniques were so refined that the elegant Red Pyramid was constructed.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/13a6b4eb1725.jpg[/atsimg]

By roughly 3000 years the Pyramids of Giza were built;

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f18c5850d6f5.jpg[/atsimg]

Egyptian advancement was a linear process that has been well documented. The only reason mystery and romance surrounds the ancient Egyptians is because they were a forgotten civilisation and no one could interpret hieroglyphics until the discovery of the Rosetta Stone in 1799.

[edit on 043131p://pm3153 by masonwatcher]


The contention i have (and i think Zorgon shares with me) is that the GP seems to be the original, and the Egyptians copied it in later dynasties. The other pyramids seem to have been tombs. The GP didn't. When it was first opened (it was a Babylonian king...can't remember which one), they found nothing. He ended up burying enough money to pay his men with once he decided that they might mutiny. Digging through solid granite just is not that easy.

Nothing makes sense if you date the pyramid at 2500 bc. It DOES start to make sense when you date it closer to 11,000 BC.



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