Chinese Lanterns and ISS cause alot of UFO reportings, N0?

I'm not aiming this at Ufologist's, more towards the few posts I have seen since joining a few weeks ago and other sites with descriptions of what "could be" Lanterns or the ISS..?

To be honest as a keen watcher of the skies for over 25 years, i still get strange looks from friends if I point out a satelite!!

The ISS is very bright and again If you go about pointing it out to someone You could be left feeling silly and wired to the moon so to speak...

Just thought I'd raise this point, please don't get hot and bothered if I've insulted your intelligence.

I'm not trying to take anything away from the UFO debate but rather help folk who stumble on this sort of thing and think Omfg!! Then flood the proper debate with normal sky activity...

It must be a result of alot of UFO sightings "not all" and I suppose they are to the individual as they are "Unidentified" to them at that point..?

Thoughts and wisdom please ATSers..



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reply to post by weedev

I agree - they are the subject of a lot of UFO reports.

I also agree - it is best to know about all that sort of stuff before you go jumping up & down in public.

reply to post by Sam60


Nice wee vid:

Because there are no points of reference for a light in the sky, there is no way to judge distance (altitude) or speed. Therefore, as in the video you posted, sky lanterns are easily mistaken for very large objects which are distant and moving very fast.

The same thing happens with the ISS only in reverse. Because it is often so bright, it is mistaken for an object flying within the atmosphere (sometimes even "very low").

reply to post by weedev

Chinese Lanterns and ISS cause alot of UFO reportings, N0?

Yeah, I think we can add Chinese Lanterns to the list that includes Temperature Inversions, Venus and of course, Swamp Gas.

It's just another tool (or weapon) for industrial debunkers to smack everyone with on the topic of UFOs.

The thing about the ISS is that a lot of people know about it. If I saw an object in the sky, I would be able to determine if it was the ISS because I've seen it before. Plus videos of the ISS mistaken as a UFO are easily identified here.

There are a ton of UFOs that cannot be explained as these two things.

Originally posted by redoubt
reply to post by weedev

 

Chinese Lanterns and ISS cause alot of UFO reportings, N0?

Yeah, I think we can add Chinese Lanterns to the list that includes Temperature Inversions, Venus and of course, Swamp Gas.

It's just another tool (or weapon) for industrial debunkers to smack everyone with on the topic of UFOs.

Plus you have to consider that chinese lanterns are not that bright. I saw my first group of them the other day and I knew exactly what they where, but after seeing them in person I can say there are a few cases debunked as chinese lanterns that don't fit the description.

Originally posted by weedev
reply to post by Sam60

 

Nice wee vid:

I was in Southampton today, i took my kids in there to buy a solar balloon to mess about with up on the forest.

The shop we got it from, Hawkin's Bazzar, also sells these Chinese lanterns. The shop keeper and i got into a conversation about the solar balloons and the lanterns being responsible for so many UFO sightings recently.

He said every time someone buys a few of these for a party in Southampton, you get someone shouting UFO. Without fail.

CX.

Please be fair to all the folk who've seen the real ufo orbs. Yes the party lanterns and the space station account for some sightings and they are just that. But once you have seen the real ufo orbs, not just those amber/orange type but the white, the red, the green the blue the mettalic, the angle grinder type that morphs into a Jesus/Angel light and then see the mothership and get crop sprayed by a substance like cotton wool/candy floss that is sooooo similar to that called Manna in the Bible, then you really do understand that there is something very much out of this world in our sky.

Originally posted by redoubt
reply to post by weedev

 

Chinese Lanterns and ISS cause alot of UFO reportings, N0?

Yeah, I think we can add Chinese Lanterns to the list that includes Temperature Inversions, Venus and of course, Swamp Gas.

It's just another tool (or weapon) for industrial debunkers to smack everyone with on the topic of UFOs.

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reply to post by ufoorbhunter


That is the point of the post.

Originally posted by weedev
To be honest as a keen watcher of the skies for over 25 years, i still get strange looks from friends if I point out a satelite!!

Then you have strange friends When I take people out and point out satellites they say cool and learn how to spot them. Then after a while I let them look through the night goggles

The ISS is very bright and again If you go about pointing it out to someone You could be left feeling silly and wired to the moon so to speak...

So you have actually seen it?

I'm not trying to take anything away from the UFO debate but rather help folk who stumble on this sort of thing and think Omfg!! Then flood the proper debate with normal sky activity...

as you say... "but..."

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reply to post by weedev

My point is some sightings are not the ISS and lanterns. Oh the ufo orbs are very real and they are not all amber/orange types or white types, can you account for the green, red, blue, mettalics, angle grinder types?

I have seen Chinese lanterns launched and then the next day the radio locally was reporting people seeing UFO's in the exact same timeframe/spot. If you don't see them launched, you don't know what to make of them. They look really cool and unlike most things you see in the sky.

reply to post by weedev


The fire orbs or Foo plane:
Send an bag of fire up in the air in New Jersey, USA you get arrested.
Send up a Tesla Foo/Phoo aircraft in air in the UK its OK.


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reply to post by TeslaandLyne
Tess the ufo orbs really do exist. Those things in my avatar, are they in any way similar to the Foo over Germany? These things are real and I know you go with the man made approach, Tess they are like something alive, like a animal under a microscope with the ability to arrange themselves in formation and capability of signalling back and having a light beam (red type), travel in same coloured pairs and are connected to motherships.

reply to post by zorgon


Strange friends maybe, could be an age thing..

Yes I've seen "it", this is my point by that comment maybe you have not seen the ISS??

ISS: Link

EVERYBODY!

I AM NOT TAKING AWAY FROM UFO'ERS!!

Read the OP, I couldn't make it any clearer..

Like ufoorbhunter said: some of these sightings do indeed account for sky lanterns and satellites, and they are are often times mistaken for the real UFO orbs. I was lucky to have had a sighting about a year ago in Brimingham, England (as did ufoorbhunter near Buxton) involving two amber/orange UFOs and one bluish/purplish one that actually emerged from the orange/amber one. The sighting occured about 200-300ft away and maybe 20-30ft above my neighbor's roof. They were very low and stationary.

I can tell you without a hint of doubt that there is a very clear difference between a sky lantern and an authentic UFO orb when you see them from up-close. In person they literally appear as basketball-sized globes, each with a distinct tint to them. The most fascinating thing though is that they flicker all the colours of visible light from the electromagnetic radiation spectrum (all colours from a rainbow) and can actually change the wavelength of radiation from the range of visible light to microwave, which makes them literally dematerialize in thin air. When this happens you can only see them in infrared. This is also probably why some crop circles show signs of radioactivity.

There is also a very strong correlation between the behaviour of these UFO orbs and the stories written of in ancient biblical scriptures. If you truly want my opinion, I can tell you with very high certainty that these objects are spiritual, multi-dimensional extraterrestrials that the primitive civilizations turned into gods.

They seem to respond to mediation and prayer as crazy as that seem, so if you really want to see them try meditating before bed each night and then go out sky-watching for a few minutes for at least a week. I haven't tried it but you might get lucky.





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reply to post by hermantinkly
Jeez Herm that was awesome. You really do know your stuff!

reply to post by hermantinkly
Jeez Herm that was awesome. You really do know your stuff!