Buzz Aldrin Reveals Existence of Monolith on Mars Moon!!!

Nice find, S&F.

I saw a cartoon in the current Private Eye depicting Buzz Aldrin with a drink problem and a caption that began, "one small sip for a man, a giant slurp for mankind."

It made me wonder what he'd done to suddenly deserve that kind of attention... maybe this was it.

reply to post by djusdjus


Pssst they lied to you about the 'cold war'

Why the interest in what Buzz says? I thought he was one of the those perpetuating the moon landing hoax?

By the way, this is my first post. Sarcasm, sorry. I do believe we landed on the moon with the Apollo projects, I am just surprised to see any interest in Buzz.

Buzz has had some very public and nasty personal problems involving the drink and depression. He has had a very unusual past. I am glad to see him out and about.

Buzz is deeply religious, having taking communion on the moon and marching with MLK, Jr. I don't know his feelings on aliens, but I would be surprised if he meant that aliens constructed the monolith. Even if you don't believe in what he did, you should read about him. He is the real deal. A very human hero.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Blaine91555

 

I was referring to this statement in the post I was replying to.

I have watched the video and it sounded to like he explained a little to much for his likeing...you can see him stop a little when talking..like "opps, should i have said that".

I don't see it.


[edit on 7/23/2009 by Phage]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when Buzz first mentioned the monolith, the CSPAN anchor asked him if it was the picture he was pointing at from his book. Buzz replied that no, it was different one on the other page. I'm assuming it was a picture of the monolith in Buzz's book.

If this is the case, has anyone read his book to tell us what Buzz writes about the monolith and how he portrays it? Maybe then we can see in what context he meant it on the show.

The anchor asks him at about 53:50 from Phage's link to CSPAN (The whole show). This indicated that the monolith is in his book. I could be wrong about this, if so, what book was the anchor using? I figured he would be using Buzz's own book.

Originally posted by Bearack
reply to post by HunkaHunka

 

Well, Buzz has been preaching quite a bit about skipping the moon and making our first landing since the moon landing on Phobus rather than either Luna or Mars.

The images of the structure are interesting, but seem quite natural to me.

Yep. Even the silly representations of what it 'probably' looks like do not reflect the actual photographs at all.

Originally posted by ArMaP
He may be an expert in photography and I, just an amateur and not even a good one, may be wrong, but I think that depth of field is not related to the size of the film, only to the construction of the lens and camera, and it's not a "rule of thumb"

Pretty much. Depth of field basically has to do with the aperture of the camera. A pinhole camera, with a tiny little aperture, has a huge depth of field, making pretty much everything in the image in focus. But you need a lot more light to get an image with a smaller aperture, since it has to jam through such a tiny opening. Something with a larger aperture doesn't need as much light, but it has a limited range of focus, usually depending on how far away the lens is away from the film or plate.

I think that's right. That's how I've always understood it, anyway.

A quantum singularity might be the ultimate pinhole camera, with mirror universes on each "side" of it.

He's referring to Phobos, not our Moon. He said "We should visit ... the moon of Mars. There' a monolith there, a very unusual structure on this little potato shaped object that foes around Mars once in seven hours". That would be Phobos. He goes on to say, "When people find out about that, they're gonna say, 'who put that there? Who put that there?'. Well, uh, the Universe ... put it there. If you choose, God put it there."

You can find out more about the Phobos Monolith here.

reply to post by weedwhacker


Yes, the density of Phobos, its mass, is far less than if it were composed of solid rock. "Voids" were first suggested by scientists, but that was rather indicative, so they later said voids filled with water ice But then the question became: "How did the water get inside the evidently solid body of Phobos? Then they constricted that theory to talk about fissures filled with ice so we wouldn't think of such things as rooms, etc. Few scientists worth their grants, contracts, univeristy chairs or government positions are going to argue with that detrmination.

But there is a discrepency with the water-filled idea that has not been explained. While ice has a mass less than stone, Phobos would have to contain an enormous amount of water for its dimensions to match it lighter than expected mass. A strong possibility must remain that it is full of voids--not necessarily empty, however. But that is only part of the problem with Phobos.

If you were to study the old Viking orbiter images you CAN discover why NASA quit their quick releasing of down-streaming data relatively quickly and went to Malin, etc. All subsequent Mars shots that we have been told about have avoided displaying much about the little moon except for a few select images. The Soviets also played the hide-and seek-game with their 1989 Phobos 1 encounter. While Western scientists lauded to high heaven the Soviet's dozen or so released images, the pictures they presented to us were actually quite terrible in clarity. (BTW It is highly doubtful that a UFO was the reason the probe failed to send its landers to the surface of Phobos, but realistically, the inhabitants wouldn't have liked that plan.

Ever since the Viking revealed that Phobos was intelligently manipulated, NASA, the Soviets/Russians and the EU have hidden the truth. They want you to be amazed about more recent images of Titan, etc. Phobos is buried. Phobos as an excellent rendezous point for a manned mission? --Forget it. Not talked about now.

Most recently published pictures of Phobos may include some close images, but what is revealed is nothing more than a typical boring moon-like terrain. The best (released) shots of Phobos come from the decades old Viking missions of the mid-70s. They clearly reveal unmistakenable signs of intelligent manipulation of that little body.

At the risk of seeming like a nut case--most of my remarks to these forumus are reasonable--I will tell this list that two weeks ago I sent ten packets of info explaining the signs I've mentioned above to ten members of the National Geologica Survey in Flagstaff where much of the work on mapping Phobos was done. Of course, they know, but I wanted them to know that some of us are getting tired of waiting. The section I sent was from a work I'm preparing called "The Trouble with Phobos."

Join Phobos with what we have discerned from our Moon, Mars itself, and UFOs in general, and we know that ETs--if only Martians--have been active in this part of the solar system for probably millions of years.

As for pinhole cameras, no, the smallest aperture has to do with the wavelength of the light going through it. If it gets smaller, then diffraction patterns begin to predominate, making the image useless. Higher energy "light" (ultraviolet, or even X-rays) could allow a much smaller aperture, but at some point it's still going to show diffraction.

That's why we now use electron microscopes. Much smaller wavelengths.

reply to post by Quazi176


Yeah, I need to get a copy. I've never seen it. I kept waiting for them to return to the photo.

reply to post by Aliensun


Thanks for all that info, Aliensun

Took guts to post it. As 'skeptical' as I may be, I have read a LOT of Science Fiction in my time, and I am especially open to the possibilities of ancient --- VERY ancient intelligent life, whether it arose on Mars first, or here, and they colonized...and Earth became briefly (thousands of years) uninhabitable...pure speculation, I know. But that's fun to me. (Sounds too much like the Total Recall storyline, perhaps, I know).

What will be needed to help pin this down as a viable hypothesis is a sense of when Mars died. How long ago, and how that might fit into what we know (or think we know) about Earth's history, last billion years or so....

Adding...

Because Phobos might hold some of the secrets to answer those questions. OR, it may just be a normal, loosely packed natural satellite, perhaps wandered out of the Asteroid Belt. BUT, if it's packed with technology, or obvious signs of intelligent tampering....hmmmm.

[edit on 24 July 2009 by weedwhacker]

Originally posted by Aliensun
Most recently published pictures of Phobos may include some close images, but what is revealed is nothing more than a typical boring moon-like terrain. The best (released) shots of Phobos come from the decades old Viking missions of the mid-70s. They clearly reveal unmistakenable signs of intelligent manipulation of that little body.

Can you show us these photos that so clearly show what you claim?

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Yeah I too would like to see those

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Aliensun

 

Thanks for all that info, Aliensun

Took guts to post it. As 'skeptical' as I may be, I have read a LOT of Science Fiction in my time, and I am especially open to the possibilities of ancient --- VERY ancient intelligent life, whether it arose on Mars first, or here, and they colonized...and Earth became briefly (thousands of years) uninhabitable...pure speculation, I know. But that's fun to me. (Sounds too much like the Total Recall storyline, perhaps, I know).

What will be needed to help pin this down as a viable hypothesis is a sense of when Mars died. How long ago, and how that might fit into what we know (or think we know) about Earth's history, last billion years or so....

Adding...

Because Phobos might hold some of the secrets to answer those questions. OR, it may just be a normal, loosely packed natural satellite, perhaps wandered out of the Asteroid Belt. BUT, if it's packed with technology, or obvious signs of intelligent tampering....hmmmm.

[edit on 24 July 2009 by weedwhacker]

See. Now there is the weedwhacker that I know and love.

Just kidding. I really do need to be grounded every once in a while by a good and (true) skeptic.

It is fun to think about what could be though.

When one has had unexplained phenomena happen you just want to find answers. Besides the idea of an alien nation sounds pretty exciting.

If I didn't have children I would probably be first to volunteer to help colonize a new planet... how exciting would that be?

Anyway... it doesn't seem all that out there.

-anyone

Originally posted by NateNute
Just dont ever call Buzz a liar to his face....see below.

He is a saint in his mind because of all the inspiration the Moon landings gave to young people. The moon landings showed nothing was impossible.

Neil Armstrong said in his 40th anniversary speech that the Moon landings was a good thing to do, it gave USA and Russia another goal instead of making war.

[edit on 24-7-2009 by conar]

reply to post by imsuchaniceguy


Nope! That would be giving the story away, and I'm not ready to do that. But the issue is coming to a head one way or the other as per my mailing to the NGS folks and this earlier message tonight.

At 71, I figure I don't have enough time to complete the writing project myself. It would make an excellent TV program however, because of the graphics and images that could be used to convey an easy understanding of what is involved. Actually, perhaps that would be best in this day and age--a quick, if short-lived, flash in the lives of unsuspecting sheeple all over the world. Much better than a few thousand dusty books.

Folks that want to slam any of my words, be my guest. I doubt that I would respond to any arguments. My usual MO here on ATS is to TRY to give pertinent info and views beyond the usual hogwash and leave it at that. But maybe not this time.

Anyway, the aliens made me do it.

Originally posted by Aliensun
reply to post by imsuchaniceguy

 

Nope! That would be giving the story away, and I'm not ready to do that. But the issue is coming to a head one way or the other as per my mailing to the NGS folks and this earlier message tonight.

At 71, I figure I don't have enough time to complete the writing project myself. It would make an excellent TV program however, because of the graphics and images that could be used to convey an easy understanding of what is involved. Actually, perhaps that would be best in this day and age--a quick, if short-lived, flash in the lives of unsuspecting sheeple all over the world. Much better than a few thousand dusty books.

Folks that want to slam any of my words, be my guest. I doubt that I would respond to any arguments. My usual MO here on ATS is to TRY to give pertinent info and views beyond the usual hogwash and leave it at that. But maybe not this time.

Anyway, the aliens made me do it.

Nope, that would be proving what you said is true. Ypu came here and said it. Why won't you back it up? Why bother coming in here to talk about it if you are not going to prove it?

These threads about structures in space always run down the same path.
me- "can you prove any of that or show evidence?"
All of you- "No because of a crappy reason."

The pictures are not yours. You do not own the copyright to them. If they exsist, then you would have no problem telling us where to find them or even posting them yourself.

Sad, I come to these threads with high hopes and always leave empty handed and saddened. At 71, it is nice that you still have an active imagination. Good for you. Please post that crap in the grey area.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by harrytuttle

 

AND....notice how HE is getting all the attention. No one seems to remember the men from the other Apollos, huh?

Could it be that 'Buzz' just either likes the attention, or is making a living/augmenting his income from it?

[edit on 24-7-2009 by cyclopean1]

reply to post by Crakeur

he says it's on a potato shaped moon of mars. He never says it is artificial. he says "the universe put it there."

By this he was referring to life.. Let me show you what he means.. many people get confused with this life thing..

basic maths for you here.

the universe is made up of what? matter and energy "as we know it" and understand it.

Life is a product of the universe... most people equate life with being human... not "life" as a component of the universe as a hole, this is because of god syndrome..

Life is not about being human "objectively" but about what life in fact is.

Be for you was born you was what? nothing? ah... well that is a joke and why?

well something would have needed to created you in the first place in order for you to be born!

Now when you die.. most people look at it as BLACKNESS when in fact its the very same thing as being alive.. why? well you would not know would you because you cant be "dead" and alive at the same time "hence why we only see one side of the picture resulting in infinity..

So when he says the UNIVERSE put it there.. he was talking about aliens.. because the universe made ALL life.. not just you and me but everything that is LIVING on earth and in space..

Most people tend to think X files when it comes to aliens

is a cat an alien? or a tree? or do we class aliens as just a life from not from our planet?

Most of the boffins in the know do not class life as special according to "earth"

because the mathematics / probability of you even being here to ask if there is in fact alien life out weighs the probability of aliens.

this is what many people fail to understand

YOU are here asking if there is aliens?

here is a question for any skeptic

do you think YOU being here is normal?

most will say I DONT KNOW = god

the rest will say ALIENS

common sens would tell you that...aliens are real

why? because your able to even ask the question in the first place

nice code words buzz, respect to you for putting it in a way the peeps "NWO" wont kick your rear end for.

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Aliensun's post (above) on Phobos should be moved to a new thread, as it will be buried here, as it is on page x.