pilot who spotted mile wide UFOs goes on TV

Skywatcher are you taking the p**s?? If the devil did anything,it/he/she wrote the bible. It's time for science...we have evolved beyond fantasy of a book that was written thousands of years ago to control a civilisation. Aliens and UFO's are reality and they are here, and one day they will be scientifically proven whilst they sit on our doorstep. It's just a matter of time that the government can cover it up.

This vid was on over two years ago

As a retired weather forecaster for the UK Meteorological Office - the theory of this "UFO" being lenticular cloud troubles me. Lenticular cloud requires specific conditions in order to form and the positioning of the Channel Islands makes these rather difficult to achieve. These clouds form downwind of a significant orographic barrier ( hills/mountains ). In my experience a wind in excess of 20knots and a barrier of at least 1000 ft is required. Winds at all levels at the time of this phenomenon appear to be from the western half of the compass meaning there can be no barrier until the Channel Islands and the Islands themselves are much too low to achieve significant uplift in the airfow to cause a trapped wave to form.

Here is an in-depth report on the incident from a meteorological standpoint.

rr0.org...

I applaud the ability to state the obvious. Yes this video was on 2 years ago....the universe was created billions of years ago...perhaps we should not discuss it. Maybe it's too old of a topic!

Originally posted by harrytuttle
My problem with this UFO sighting is the guy admits the object was about 50 miles away. 50 MILES. For him (or the passengers) to claim that's a close enough distance to make any conclusive observations about this object other than it being a unique lenticular cloud formation is irresponsible.

Don't get me wrong, I believe they saw something, but the pilot admitted that the "UFO" didn't move during that 12 minutes. Well, that certainly sounds like a cloud to me. We've all seen clouds lit up by the sun in strange ways at least few times in our lives.

My question to the pilot: What can you put into clear language, that you observed about the object, that RULES OUT COMPLETELY this was anything other than a cloud formation?

Conversely: What can you put into clear language, that you observed about the object, that COMPLETELY DISTINGUISHES said object from any possible cloud formation?

Did he see anything about it that absolutely couldn't have been done by a cloud under the right lighting conditions?

Nothing he has reported thus far seems to justify calling it a UFO.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and nothing about this story sounds extraordinary at all.

It *would* be close enough distance to judge what it was if it was large enough to see detail. If one is to believe the pilot, he was able to see two sections in two different colors. You could ask him that question if you ever meet him. Distance alone is not enough to judge whether he had enough detail to rule out clouds. I can see the moon from 250,000 miles away and I can easily tell that it is not a cloud.

With that said, the lack of motion over that period of time makes me think the object could have just as easily been a man made experimental lighter than air vehicle of tremendous size. If it is conceivable and has some potential use, some defense department somewhere has probably tested it.

-rrr

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That was not my point, whats new was my point

Can't watch vid anything new

Sorry eyeswild! I guess topics like this get too much criticism. There are more recent feeds on it, I looked them up not a while ago. I'll try to track them down. It is quite good though to have it on a program like GMTV...finally issues like this are being projected to the country on a channel that many people watch.



[edit on 23-7-2009 by nexakill]

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
The only problem I have with this (well, not the only problem, common sense, reason and logic dictate about 10 things off hand that need to be considered) if why on earth would you need a mile wide UFO in atmosphere?

Look at it this way, we have crappy optics that can read the license plate or see the pattern on a golf ball from orbit. You would figure that any advanced race (and yes, they would have to be very advanced to keep a mile wide UFO aloft in our atmosphere) would be able to make much better observations from orbit (or even from farther distances within our solar system) without the need to have the risk of atmospheric flight. Even if they need to collect physical samples, why risk the mothership? Surley they are advanced enough to send out smaller drones or piloted "away teams" that can handle the scientific observations and collections at a substantially reduced risk.

There are many, many other reasons why I think anything related to a "mile wide ufo" is complete poppycock. Sure, some will come back telling me that how can I possibly assume the motivations and thought processes of an alien race, bla, bla. But I choose to believe that logic, reason and common sense are universal in nature, and a biological imperative to advance to the level of an intergalactic spare faring species.

Mr. Ignorethefacts, you really do ignore the facts don't ya! You sometimes act as a troll and want to poke and alter the wasp hive. The reality is that I would definitely pay attention to this pilot and what he is saying anytime over your incoherent rants. I am amazed that you are still around ATS as all you claim is fake, fake, fake, that can't be true because it goes against my common sense. Dude, give it a rest, let the man tell his account and let him at least finish before you start spewing utter nonsense and act like you are mister know it all. Learn to appreciate the facts, they will help you out in the future.

Peace!


[edit on 23-7-2009 by The Coward]

The skeptics would not believe UFOs and ETs exist even if they landed on the White House lawn and held a press conference. They would just say its mass hypnotism or a hoax put on by the government to enslave the masses.

Reason is they are stuck in their own narrow vision of reality and their little pea brains are incapable of accepting the fact that things do exist that are out of the mainstream vision of the "sheeple"

Originally posted by harrytuttle
My problem with this UFO sighting is the guy admits the object was about 50 miles away. 50 MILES. For him (or the passengers) to claim that's a close enough distance to make any conclusive observations about this object other than it being a unique lenticular cloud formation is irresponsible.

Don't get me wrong, I believe they saw something, but the pilot admitted that the "UFO" didn't move during that 12 minutes. Well, that certainly sounds like a cloud to me. We've all seen clouds lit up by the sun in strange ways at least few times in our lives.

My question to the pilot: What can you put into clear language, that you observed about the object, that RULES OUT COMPLETELY this was anything other than a cloud formation?

Conversely: What can you put into clear language, that you observed about the object, that COMPLETELY DISTINGUISHES said object from any possible cloud formation?

Did he see anything about it that absolutely couldn't have been done by a cloud under the right lighting conditions?

Nothing he has reported thus far seems to justify calling it a UFO.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and nothing about this story sounds extraordinary at all.

Yes. You've got it absolutely correct. Your questions to the pilot should put him right in his place and bring him back to reality where he belongs. You obviously have a better handle on physics, flight, more experience and are a much better judge in distance, speed, and observation. It couldn't be extraordinary because you've summed it all up with your superior intellect. And because your perception of the incident that you didn't witness is in contrast with the PILOTs, passengers, and radar's perspective, that must mean that your perception trumps all of those other idiots who were fooled by a massive illusion and a simple cloud structure. Amazing. God designated you as King.

But, the last that I checked, aircraft radar does not specialize in cloud signatures.

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There is a book that I have from some scientist whom I can't remember called commic universe or something or another, and it's all about why there it's almost imposible for extra terrestrials to be visiting our planet. On that note, one of his points is that the ships would have to be AT LEAST ONE MILE LONG in order to contain the fuel etc from where it came from, and then to return....well I think this proves his point and at the same time puts his conclusion to doubt about it not being possible.

Originally posted by nexakill
reply to post by The Coward

 

There is a book that I have from some scientist whom I can't remember called commic universe or something or another, and it's all about why there it's almost imposible for extra terrestrials to be visiting our planet. On that note, one of his points is that the ships would have to be AT LEAST ONE MILE LONG in order to contain the fuel etc from where it came from, and then to return....well I think this proves his point and at the same time puts his conclusion to doubt about it not being possible.

Our own aircraft carriers are 1000 feet long and powered by nuclear energy.

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I totally agree....the world was flat for a long time, and even after it was proven it was not, people were still sceptical. It's so annoying to justify the beliefs of people like myself and others who see outside mainstream. No one would have believed in things like TV's or phones or planes or going to the moon thousands of years ago...I just wish I could be around in the year 3000 to see all the new discoveries in science and technology, and then come back to everyone with pictures (or holograms) and say I bloody well told you so. Ignorance is not bliss...it's really really annoying. I hate sheeple!!!

For all of you that say "oh it's just a cloud" or "he could just be lying"

1. It was picked up by 2 separate ground control radars, so no, he can't "just be lying".

2. It was seen by 2 pilots and a handful of passengers from separate locations, that both reported the same thing. If it was a cloud then I doubt that it would look the same from 2 different perspectives.

3. This guy has 20 years experience and seems perfectly level-headed. I'm sure he's seen every type of cloud there is. And what reason would him, the other pilot, the passengers and ground control have for lying about this?

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The CAA will be very interested in this guy now, they will have to cover there own backs if this guy fu*ks up and has an incident, or accident, the media will say he had a history of self delusion, or whatever, you fill in the blanks, I don't care how many people witnessed it, first rule of the commercial pilot, never ever ever draw attention to yourself.

It took me four years and 75k to finally gain my licence, Richard and Judy is the last place I would go if I wanted to keep it.

reply to post by said _zebidee
I agree with you, I live in Co Down in a well known seaside resort, and more often than not at least one Lenticular cloud will form in the bay, in the same area at some time during the day. Size can vary, small to huge although that's academic, since they are all pretty big.
For the Pilot in this sighting, even if he didn't know the name of one cloud or another, i'll bet he would know what a Lenticular cloud is.Despite the shape, in daytime they are unmistakingly, a cloud.
Also the pilot did not theorise very much on what he saw, and reported just that, he was looking for answers as to why something was in a controlled airspace that should not have been there. Harrytuttle seems to have (ignored the facts) that the pilot had binoculars, 10x by which he made his observations. Edit here, because I went over the video once more again and the pilot does say that he has seen Lenticular clouds before.

[edit on 23-7-2009 by smurfy]

I sit here and observe as usual and read what members write dealing with ufo's and aliens. I don't understand why this pilot or pilots in general will be put through the ringer by skeptics.

I keep telling myself be patient these people just need more time, but time has been ticking and growth has been slow in this field.

There are many different species and ships right here in the deepness of our waters, in our skies and in our Solar System.

You only see when they slow but they are all over they move to fast. Things are going to happen here in the next few decades and they won't get credit for saving human life from the Extinction that is to have taken place.

There are many ships and beings here working to lesson the blow to try and save as many of you as they can but yet you deny and so be it.

Whatever is to be, will be.

Originally posted by dan steely
reply to post by reject

 

The CAA will be very interested in this guy now, they will have to cover there own backs if this guy fu*ks up and has an incident, or accident, the media will say he had a history of self delusion, or whatever, you fill in the blanks, I don't care how many people witnessed it, first rule of the commercial pilot, never ever ever draw attention to yourself.

It took me four years and 75k to finally gain my licence, Richard and Judy is the last place I would go if I wanted to keep it.

Good point Steely, except that he has the backing of his company, which is ? another general point,(not connected to your post) I think this video is from 2008, not 2007 which is when the sighting was made.

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Great argument, Jimmy!

Originally posted by nexakill
reply to post by The Coward

 

There is a book that I have from some scientist whom I can't remember called commic universe or something or another, and it's all about why there it's almost imposible for extra terrestrials to be visiting our planet. On that note, one of his points is that the ships would have to be AT LEAST ONE MILE LONG in order to contain the fuel etc from where it came from, and then to return....well I think this proves his point and at the same time puts his conclusion to doubt about it not being possible.

oh boy,,,long sighhhhhh

have you ever day dreamed or imagined that they might be just a few years more advanced than us??

Highly unlikely any race/or us,,would be useing rocket fuel to travel 100's/1000's of light years...
Unless there FLASH GORDON.....

the military already has some anti gravity craft,,,and thats really no secret...

Im sure the ET's are way better at their quantum physics and would obviously have a better method of propulsion than us,,,

huggs everyone!