Jesus Christ is the only way

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by rekar

 

No Offense intended here, But I have learned a few things about you. One being your level of education by the grammar in your replies. Like I said, no offense intended, just answering your question...

so now you know i'll give up the proper grammer for humor sake.
on occassion.that's a big insight.you still seem to get the message.
Mr. conceided.
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I dont exactly have a high opinion of myself. I am no more perfect than you are, we are all human here, are we not? And it seems that you didnt get the message I was passing across. You took my first paragraph, quoted it, and took offense by it. I stated I wasnt intending to impose myself as being better than you because I use proper grammar.

Lets try to get back on topic and not make attacks towards each other though. I will admit that it was partly my fault, as I did point out your grammar... Forgive me for being rude...

The OP says that Jesus is the only way. I have stated my opinions as to why that is incorrect in my above thread below my first paragraph.

Rekar

your gonna need to prove that statement. the first amendment provides the freedom of religion and the inability to inhibit your religion. so what do you believe if you believe in nothing

reply to post by make.changes
he believes in lookin like a bad ass in his avatar. simple.

Been thinking a little more.
I remember a sequence in the documentary "Religolous" where a few people stand with big signs that said "gay people should die" or "that god hates them" and such other nonsens.

When they are confronted they response with, "We don't hate them...God does".

Now, my question is this. If this God is so powerful and fully capable to listen to millions of people at the same time, why don't he spread that hate message to those who pray to him? Why does he let those who believe in him spread a word that themself don't agree on or want to take responsibility for, to others who don't have faith in him or are just not interested??

Beats me.... really.

Just want to add that I don't say that all of you here think like this. This was just one set of people. So please take no offense.


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Originally posted by DaisyAnne

Originally posted by watchtheashes


Just wait till the fallen angels get here.

Fallen angels?

You do realize that the Jewish monotheistic faith did not incorporate angels until after the Babylonian captivity? What you refer to as angels are in fact other mesopotamian deities, demoted and rewritten in order to venerate your God.

One can only hope they are coming back. Perhaps they could clear up this blood-soaked mess that the followers of the Abrahamic faiths have made of this place.

actually fallen angels are fallen angels, they are angels that have fallen. the bible mentions it multiple times rev mentions multiple times. and not all fallen angels are bad.rev ch 2 verse 5 remember there fore whence thou art fallen. repent and do the first works;or else i will come unto thee quickly, and remove the candle sticks out of his place,except thou repent. as we know all the letters in the churchs in revelation is written to this angel. we also know that this angel isnt jesus for jesus was never called a fallen angel.

reply to post by make.changes


No, you are mistaken. Read some religious history textbooks. Jewish monotheism did not incorporate angels until after the Babylonian captivity. Your Bible is not the first book ever written, I'm afraid. History goes back further than that.

These fallen angels of yours are deities in their own right. All the angels are. They had to be demoted in order to promote this idea of monotheism.

reply to post by rekar

Lets try to get back on topic and not make attacks towards each other though. I will admit that it was partly my fault, as I did point out your grammar... Forgive me for being rude...

well i don't believe it. finally, i accept your apology and humbly offer mine
in return.i'm sure if we try,we will succeed. respect my defense of what i
feel is true in life .i try to convince no one of anything.is that asking to much you think?

ill just say you are gonna have to look in genisis for your answer. or the genisi of the qur'ran all though i dont know the name of it and it wil tell you your answer.

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by rekar

Lets try to get back on topic and not make attacks towards each other though. I will admit that it was partly my fault, as I did point out your grammar... Forgive me for being rude...

 

well i don't believe it. finally, i accept your apology and humbly offer mine
in return.i'm sure if we try,we will succeed. respect my defense of what i
feel is true in life .i try to convince no one of anything.is that asking to much you think?

Roger, it is not too much to ask. I respect your decision, as I do everyones. In retrospect, I see where I was doing exactly what I try not to do, impose my beliefs on another person...

I also see where it is inevitable to not impose beliefs on others. Once you begin telling them yours, you are imposing it on them, whether you intend to or not.

Rekar

reply to post by Akezzon

Been thinking a little more

i don't know if you are addressing me or just anyone.
but this can only be a good thing.it's definetly what i been trying to convey.
you see i can't talk to God any more than you can. anyone says they can is just as crazy to me as they are to you. are you now starting see where i'm coming from just a little bit?i know i havn't been as clear as i have
been pssd. forgive me.

Originally posted by make.changes
reply to post by John Matrix

 

your gonna need to prove that statement. the first amendment provides the freedom of religion and the inability to inhibit your religion. so what do you believe if you believe in nothing?

The proof is self evident. But tell me what statement you refer to, as there are several.

Nothing I said contradicts the first amendment.

Did I say I believe in nothing?
Read it again very sllloooowwwwwllllyyyy!!

Edit to add the link to the original post rather than quoting it in it's entirety,

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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Originally posted by make.changes
your true religion statement is something that can be agreed with im a christian, luthern to be more specific

Thank you sir. Only those who have been opened to the truth can understand this. The others still sleep.

Christ is the only way, truth, and life.

reply to post by DaisyAnne
DaisyAnn i was only playin around w/ you yesterday.trying to point out disrespect w/ disrespect .i should know better. since the apologies are goin around i can see i owe you one.i apologise.

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by DaisyAnne

 

DaisyAnn i was only playin around w/ you yesterday.trying to point out disrespect w/ disrespect .i should know better. since the apologies are goin around i can see i owe you one.i apologise.

Thank you! Apology accepted

And if I came across as insulting or disrespectful, then I hope you will accept my sincere apology too.

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by Darth Lumina

 

Challenge you? What is your challenge? Your writing doesn't make that much sense in some of your posts, so is the challenge to interpret somehow what you are saying? You have a nerve to put down someone else's intelligence when you haven't demonstrated much of it yourself. You are pretty much proving all non christians right with every post. At least everyone (well, most anyway) else is giving reasons and examples of what they put in their posts, regardless of the side of arguement. You haven't contributed anything that is even considered "challenging" by a long shot. You should try just a little bit harder there, trust me, the pain goes away.

you ASSume im a "Christian " whats that say for your intel"
just because some one believes the sme things that they do doesn't
make me one of them.
you can't accuse me of anything you say about Christians.
i'm only here in Gods defense on this physical plain .not that he needs me .
because i want too.keep that straight so you don't lose intel in my eyes,copy?



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Of course I assume you are a christian. You follow christ don't you? You posts tell me that you are a follower of jesus christ, so that in turn makes you a christian. You don't have to be going to church in order to be a christian. Plus, you are posting in a thread that is talking about jesus as being the only way. Nice try though.

Originally posted by randyvs

Great, we have another "chosen one" here who claims to know god better than everyone else. You probably think you can talk to god, but that's just like thinking that you are an

reply to post by Darth Lumina

 

why do you insist on puting words in my mouth .i'm in the mood to explain some things and this the extent of your intel .you don't like it go make your own thread about it .



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I'm not putting words into your mouth, just going by what you had posted. Go ahead and explain some things, who's stopping you? Perhaps you should make your own thread yourself, since now you are on gods defense since this thread is "Jesus Christ is the only way". Please spare me the whole Jesus is gods son b.s because I don't believe in that trash.

Originally posted by wylekat
It's interesting how the 2 most opposite religions seem to work hand in hand with suppression and the like. Why would 2 diametrically opposed belief systems each have ways of suppressing important advances in areas of science, art, technology, music (and the list goes on)?

I am over simplifying things a lot, but why did Allah and God need the human race in the dark for centuries? Why are both trying to keep us in the dark even now? Why are both trying to keep us divided? Is the human race a threat to these gods with enough knowledge? Are we able to take on the most 'powerful' beings in the universe if we simply all banded together and worked as a whole?

Very odd. I wonder what's missing, what's not being mentioned with both religions. I dont even wanna dare try to complicate and stir the pot by adding in the Jewish end of things into it. No. Wait. Mebbe we should- make a list, and see what's going on here- and try to do it without bashing too many heads in with crazed opinions of the others' beliefs. Something's starting to stink about the whole mess, to me.

47 pages of nonsense, and counting, yet this post of yours is the ONLY one I find worth giving some thought to.

It is said that the heavens declare the glory of god. Ok, like Einstein, I have to admit, seems like this world is here by design, and not by random accident. However, like you, I have begun to notice that the design INCLUDES human beings waging wars on each other. Not just through religion, but through race/ethinc wars as well.

We're "painted" differently, are given different physical features, different languages, different beliefs, then we're told to group up with those like us, those with similar paint, simliar language, similar belief, similar features, and last we're told to get rid of the other groups. Smells like a DESIGNED GAME !!! Only question I have left is, What's the motive? Scientific Test, Or Entertaining Game ? ? ?

I have NO DOUBT that Jesus existed:

Matthew 10:34-36 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

But I do not think he was anything more than a pawn of the game/test-maker. Jesus even knew he was designed to bring division. Mohamed was also designed to bring division, as was Moses. I have no doubt all 3 of these men existed, and that they EVEN DID MANY OF THE THINGS THAT IS ATTRIBUTED TO THEM. It's part of the Game/Test. They were PAWNS, they just didn't know it ! ! !

Seems that somehow we must find an answer for the FACT that some prophecies do appear as though they were both INSPIRED and CAME TO PASS.

So, my answer; the Game/Test Maker through them into the mix to add validity to the belief's, just as prayers are answered, and miracles apparently do occur. Sadly, religious people are too blinded by THEIR belief to notice that prayers of Muslims, Jews, Christians, and Hindus ALL get answered in the same frequency, the same can be said for miracles. If only they, AND the just as equally blinded atheists, would all wake up and notice that SOMETHING REALLY IS behind it all, but that THAT something is NEITHER FREINDLY nor LOVING. And that THAT something has purposefully designed EVERYTHING to be at odds with EVERYTHING else. Even in a perfect garden, the law of the land is DOG EAT DOG ! ! !

EVERYTING ALIVE COMES INTO THIS GAME/TEST WITH THE SAME SET OF INSTRUCTIONS: YOU MUST FIGHT TO SURVIVE ! ! ! And in most cases, you must group up to insure the survival of the group, which is the best way to insure the survival of self. COINCIDENSE ? ? ?

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Atheists, THINK for a moment? Why is it that greater than 98% of every thinking adult that ever lived asks the same question: Is there a god? Perhaps it's because as designers ourselves, we can RECOGNIZE when something IS designed.

Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, THINK for a moment? Do ou REALLY think that only prayers from YOUR group gets answered? Obviously there is a reason why an 85 year old Christian, an 85 year old Jew, an 85 year old Muslim, and an 85 year old Hindu, have all stuck to their beliefs for greater than 50 years. What, do you think such a person would continue their belief if NONE of their prayers were EVER answered. You are quite litterally assuming that everyone but your group is an absolute moron.

People, this world is obviously designed, unfortunately, an open mind would SEE the entire design for what it is, including those ugly parts that we dare not imagine. War is part of the design. Murder is part of the design. Genocide is part of the design. Terrorism is part of the design. Rape is part of the design. Everything that is IN HERE WITH US, was DESIGNED ! ! !

Oh, and for the dummest possible question ever, where was the designer PRIOR to designing this world; where was the Pool designer PRIOR to his taking a swim in his Pool, and how do you explain to the fish in the Pool that a world exists OUTSIDE of the Pool. What a MORONIC question if ever I heard one.

Originally posted by JustMy2Cents
Why is it that greater than 98% of every thinking adult that ever lived asks the same question: Is there a god?

Despite this is a number you just whipped out of your head, maybe its because the notion of god is widely dispensed by many cultures at young ages. Maybe it's because its been integrated into so many facets of life been now and in history. It's almost an inescapable factor in your world experience.

What kind of ideas did people have before the idea of god was introduced? Why was god introduced? Why did this make more sense to them? What kind of things would societies believe if they were isolated and nobody introduced the concept of god to them?

People, this world is obviously designed.

Not so obvious. If it were it would be accepted fact, and it would be redundant for you to say what you just said, because you wouldn't have to convince anyone. There is a case to be made for a godless universe.

Where was god prior to designing physical existence?

Easy. He was nowhere.