Alien Abduction - Most Likely Relative Molestation!

reply to post by mellisamouse


I've mentioned more here already, but feel I am treated here as if delusional anyway. So, it's kinda pointless to bother....with all of it. Lot of bizarre memories though.

IDK I'm not afraid of doctors so much as I am disappointed and really annoyed with them and think there's something they aren't telling me. Such as test results. Sometimes or usually I feel like the doctors are controlled by the government or the aliens.

I was shown not too long ago about an x-ray that showed something inside me I didn't see before. I have recalled a Whitely Streiber type event over 10 year ago for a hernia surgery supposedly by aliens...as to why I saw a bunch of small clasps in a row on the x-ray. They looked like jewelry clasps where a hernia repair would be.

When I finally had another hernia repair for that same area last september, my brother-in-law who was with me there, complained that it took several hours compared to what they had claimed it would.

I can only guess that they ran other tests I was unaware of.

I've also seen x-rays of my skull before that showed objects in the back like marbles....yeah, marbles.

I recalled having said I was glad I hadn't lost them yet.

IDK if all of that was real or was faked somehow. All I know is that the metal detectors go off in government buildings,airports etc.

I've thought about the regression hypnosis, group therapy etc. but am much better at procrastination.

Although, I'm kinda glad I'm not treated as if some real abductee celebrity with people constantly bothering me.

I was treated like an abductee when I was homeless though. They tried to run a bunch of tests on me or were messing with my head.....idk. They were looking for abduction signs. They found my one scoop mark on my leg though. That's the only obvious one I have that I can actually see. I think they used some metal detector on me also. The whole thing was really confusing. For soem reason, I was also tasered by some cop there. I had the barbs stuck in my gut for a couple weeks after that, until I went into another hospital. It was kinda like Star Trek when the one nurse used some device on the sores.

I found one scoop mark exactly like mine on Rense, but now its been taken down. I can only guess that scoop marks are used for cloning. Supposedly they can only clone tissue from a living person etc. As if your soul still has to be present. idk

Originally posted by grapesofraft
I think all people who believe they were adbucted by aliens should go and discuss it with a good psychiatrist, because it is more likely that all of you may have been molested by one of your relatives or someone close to you. I am not saying this to hurt anyones feelings, but to help people uncover the thruth so they may heal.

I have read many stories of people being abducted by aliens. Many of them involve touching and probing of sensitive areas of the body. Some start out as someone standing at the edge or side of the bed watching the potential abductee. All of this struck me as being similar to sexual abuse and so I beagan to wonder if Alien Abduction is just a story made up by the brain to deal with the fact that the person was molested.

I believe it would make it easier to deal with. Say if someone you loved was coming into your room at night and molesting you, wouldnt it be easier for you and your brain to handle it if you could frame it as some far off alien. That would make them non-human and distant and these ideas could better enable you to deal with it psychologically.

Say you lived with that person or they were a close relative and you had to see them everyday, see how it would make it easier to attribute it to Aliens or Ghosts or whatever than to attribute it to your older brother, your uncle, your dad, a friend of the family, etc...

Here are some links to show that other people may believe this is at least partially true.

Harvard Gazette

Wikipedia

I believe it could be possible that all Alien Abuductees were victims of molestation as a child. Could it be they were just victims of a pedophillic relative or could it be that Aliens are pedophiles and they get their kicks from watching kids sleep, or "probing" them as they lay in some drugged or dream state?

What do you think?


[edit on 13-7-2009 by grapesofraft]

not all abductees have the same negative experience..not all are probed according to their experiences so there goes that theory..plus some people have missing gaps in time and have implants found in them

To assume that "all" people were molested is a comment way out in left field at least for me. Yes, it is a possibility for "some" people but not all. Abduction is very personal and I for one know some of my friends were not molested. Let's be more open minded for those who are experiencing something that for them is complicated, scary and always on the back burner of their minds.

reply to post by AliensExist


There are people who live with the memory that they were molested. Not everyone's "ego" represses the memory.
And again you are talking like I'm referring to all abductees as victims of you-know-what..

reply to post by VergeofObscene


How does it insult people who have been genuinely molested?


You people are just having a hard time accepting the fact that not everyone lives in a fantasy world.

I hand it to you grapes that is an interesting theory and could explain some abduction cases.

A lot of the stories themselves remind me of the vet clinic instead or wildlife researchers. I'm sure my cat has a lot of traumatic experiences. The vet wears a surgical mask, a hat, funky gloves, and big glasses. He anal probes the cat (thermometer-or a stick to check for worms) and ties him to the observation table with straps because the cat gets violent then. He holds up a needle and pulls up the skin on the cat's neck and injects chemicals (rabies vaccine) into the cat. Last he uses a plunger to force liquids (deworming) down the cat's throat. The cat is a nervous wreck after a veterinarian visit.

In it's own way the cat may communicate with another cat saying, "You won't believe what happened to me!" He certainly does remember the experience because he hisses and screams at the veterinarian as soon as he sees him in the strange clothing.

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reply to post by DGFenrir


I know that there are people who live with the memory and I know that you're not talking about all abductees. But that does nothing to refute the evidence of alien abduction, I'm getting a little impatient. You seriously aren't presenting any form of an argument. Most of the abduction cases I've heard of happened to multiple adults and often in their cars, it's rare that it happens in your bed. You can't explain some of these cases with anything other than what they claim - alien abduction. Just try to explain the Betty and Barney Hill case or the Travis Walton case or the Cahill case or the Allagash abductions just some of the ones I remember off of the top of my head. And again, there is physical evidence for this in the form of implants, which have been verified to have traces of extraterrestrial metal in them. You obviously have preconceived notions about this serious topic of ETs and you aren't willing to consider any of the evidence or thousands of witness accounts. You think we're all dumb nuts don't you? You think respected scientist, MIT graduate, and 6th man to walk on the moon Edgar Mitchell is just a dumb UFO nut, you think phD physicist Stanton Friedman is a dumb nut, you think president Carter is a dumb nut and Philip Corso and John Podesta and Gordon Cooper and John McCain and Walter Cronkite and a countless number of high ranking military officials and all of the witnesses to the Roswell Incident and the 82 Zimbabwean children in a case I've read about today in which they all witness ETs, they're all nuts is that so?

I hope that someday if you do realize the truth you will be enough of a man to admit that you were the one living in a close-minded fantasy world in which everything the government says is true.

[edit on 18-7-2009 by AliensExist]

reply to post by AliensExist


My point isn't to refute anything here. I'm not here to "debunk" abduction. I only agree with the theory that many of the abductions may be a result of some traumatic experience.
There have been discussions about those "implants" here on ATS. Most were debunked. Link me to one or two that haven't.

Maybe it is you who is living in a fantasy world? You believe something that has no proof..

Edit:
Many of the abductions are also hoaxes. Made up to get that 15 minutes of fame. There is no way to prove or disprove one.

[edit on 19/7/2009 by DGFenrir]

Implants?

There is no proof there are alien implants in people. Dr Lier is just some crazy old doctor.

Joe Nickell, a columnist for Skeptical Inquirer magazine, noted that “Since 1994 alleged implants have been surgically recovered but they’ve become remarkably diverse: one looks like a shard of glass, another a triangular piece of metal, still another a carbon fiber, and so on. None was located in the brain or nasal cavity, instead being recovered from such extremities as toe, hand, shin, external ear, etc.; some were accompanied by scars while others were not. As physicians know, a foreign object can enter the body unnoticed, as during a fall, or while running barefoot in sand or grass—even as a splinter from a larger impacting object.” People find all sorts of weird things in their bodies, but so far none are of alien origin.

Source

reply to post by AliensExist


Do you know that Travis Walton miserably failed his first polygraph test regarding the alleged abduction?

reply to post by grapesofraft


yes I agree.

I wrote a thread ages ago...

Greys are perhaps only grey areas of your mind

Good to see I am not the only one thinking a little deeper into this.

Now I am not saying that everyone who claims to be abducted by aliens have been molested. I just mean the ones that claim to have been probed.

Give me one good reason an alien would have to insert a probe in a male?

reply to post by Thurisaz


Thank you. I will have to read up on your thread. I was in another thread where someone mentioned that the description of a gray aliens body could be interpreted as a phallic symbol itself. I found that to be possible once I thought about it.

I just read the OP to your thread, and all I can say is that great minds think alike.

[edit on 7/19/2009 by grapesofraft]

I would have to wonder how many of these people were purposely manipulated to appear as abductees for disinformation. Implants might also be swapped with something more down to earth also.

I've seen a couple of alleged implants of mine on x-rays and have also been skeptical. maybe the x-rays were fake? I dunno.

reply to post by aleon1018


Now why would that be. I am sure scienctists would love to analyze a real alien implant. I think that sometimes humans will twist the facts to hold onto their incorrect believes.

reply to post by aleon1018

I've also seen x-rays of my skull before that showed objects in the back like marbles....yeah, marbles.

I recalled having said I was glad I hadn't lost them yet.

If your doctors found what they thought were black marbles in your brain they would have done surgery on you right there and then as that woud probably be interpretted as pools of blood or a blood clot. I am not saying you are lying just that you may have misinterpreted the x ray results.

Originally posted by grapesofraft
reply to post by aleon1018

 

Now why would that be. I am sure scienctists would love to analyze a real alien implant. I think that sometimes humans will twist the facts to hold onto their incorrect believes.

Who's to prove that they haven't yet? They may be forced to call the government when they find these. It might be likely the government tracks these alleged abductees themselves. Some have mentioned MKultra.

reply to post by aleon1018


So we have thousands of doctors that are being forced to report this to the government but none of them have sold that story to a mag, paper, or news show?

reply to post by aleon1018


I take it from your posts that you have been abducted by aliens. Have you ever been probed, and if so why do you think they would probe you?

Originally posted by grapesofraft
reply to post by aleon1018

 

I take it from your posts that you have been abducted by aliens. Have you ever been probed, and if so why do you think they would probe you?

I've recalled what was some type of surgery for a hernia. That thing they used looked more a three jawed spreader than some simple probe. Not a memory I would care to relive through hypnosis.

My x-rays have showed implants in my skull and my gut. At this point, I don't trust these memories either. I know I've set off metal detectors though.