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Originally posted by 911files
Now Craig, you and I have both been in that parking lot and you know that is a load of manure. A plane with a 124 foot wingspan directly over that lot would be at a between 70 - 90 degree angle up from the ground from their POV. The angle indicated by their arms in your interviews is less than 45 degrees. Please pick up a trig book and do the math.
Originally posted by Craig Ranke CIT
Look where they illustrated it John.
You are being dishonest and you know it.
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But feel free to keep trying because it only further exposes your dishonesty.
Originally posted by 911files
Yes, they drew paths consistent with their perceptions. We have been through this already many times.
And why is it you call anyone who disagrees with you dishonest?
It is a solid fact that a plane over the ANC parking area would be 70-90 degrees above the ANC witnesses.
Originally posted by Ligon
Originally posted by jthomas
Don't forget your Twoofer standards: "If there are no photos, there is no evidence."
Show us the photos of Ranke and Aldo with the entire group of people. By your standards, if you can't provide those photos, than you have no "proof" that more than a few people who were shown with Craig and Aldo attended.
You want to be consistent in your standards, correct, Ligon?
When did I ever say "If there are no photos, there is no evidence"? Please quote me or stop putting words in my mouth.
Clearly I am not of this view because I do not require a photograph to conclude which side of the gas station the plane flew on. I've seen/heard firsthand interviews with over a dozen witnesses who all had different yet excellent vantage points to judge this and they all insist it was on the north side. It is impossible for all of them to be wrong about this general detail in the same way.
Originally posted by SonicInfinity
reply to posts by Craig Ranke CIT and 911files
You know what I just realized? You two have very similar argumentative styles. In fact, if you removed the names attached, it would almost look like the same person arguing with himself. Obviously, you two aren't the same person, but that's just how it seems.
Originally posted by Craig Ranke CIT
Originally posted by 911files
Now Craig, you and I have both been in that parking lot and you know that is a load of manure. A plane with a 124 foot wingspan directly over that lot would be at a between 70 - 90 degree angle up from the ground from their POV. The angle indicated by their arms in your interviews is less than 45 degrees. Please pick up a trig book and do the math.
Look where they illustrated it John.
Originally posted by jthomas
Show us the photos of Ranke and Aldo with the entire group of people. By your standards, if you can't provide those photos, than you have no "proof" that more than a few people who were shown with Craig and Aldo attended.
Originally posted by Craig Ranke CIT
reply to post by SonicInfinity
I suggest you ignore both of us and simply view the evidence yourself to make your own determination.
I can assure you we are nothing alike and if you want the details behind his shadowy yet brief association with the "truth movement" read this.
He didn't emotionally spiral out of control while "quitting" the truth movement in a swirl of obscenities and deleting his website with every article he ever published on the topic because he was right.
I can promise you that CIT will never remove our published articles from the public domain.
Originally posted by 911files
Now who is being dishonest Craig? All of my materials are online. AAL77.COM has been backed up on three different hosts around the world so that hackers can't take it down again (course you being a software engineer would know nothing about that).
Originally posted by Craig Ranke CIT
Originally posted by 911files
Now who is being dishonest Craig? All of my materials are online. AAL77.COM has been backed up on three different hosts around the world so that hackers can't take it down again (course you being a software engineer would know nothing about that).
I have never claimed to be a "software engineer" and I am NOT one.
Provide your hosted link to the article you wrote for Gaffney's book.
You had dozens of articles chronicling your "research" over the past 2 years on 911files.com and they were all deleted along with the entire site.
NONE of these dozens of deleted articles have been replicated on AAL77.com.
Provide the links to them and I'll admit that I was mistaken. If you can't provide the links it will be proof that you are lying again.
[edit on 13-7-2009 by Craig Ranke CIT]
Originally posted by 911files
Sorry Craig, as you will recall, someone hacked that site as well and I started posting my stuff on JREF to avoid the hassle. So if you miss the stuff, take it up with the hackers out there, not me.
Originally posted by Craig Ranke CIT
Originally posted by 911files
Sorry Craig, as you will recall, someone hacked that site as well and I started posting my stuff on JREF to avoid the hassle. So if you miss the stuff, take it up with the hackers out there, not me.
Post links to the articles on jref then.
You had dozens of them.
I have not seen any of them replicated on jref or anywhere.
I'm sorry but even if your site was "hacked" twice as you claim it wouldn't have made the articles disappear from your harddrive or the cached articles on internet archives.
You published the initial version of the article used in Gaffney's book on your site several months BEFORE his book was released so it is clearly fair use.
So post a link to that version along with links to all the articles you published on 911files.com.
If you can provide the links to them (even on jref) I'll admit that I was mistaken. If you can't provide the links it will be proof that you are lying again.
[edit on 13-7-2009 by Craig Ranke CIT]
Originally posted by 911files
Why would I want to Craig?
All of that material is being put into a book,
Sadly though, my files are done and I have work to do. JREF has a cool search function and the name is the same there. I don't post there any more because they keep blocking you and your trolls which just takes all the fun out of it.
Well, yours truly just got threatened with suspension because when HI attacked the OP author as being stupid, I asked him if he was sober. Yet the "stupid" remarks are left as perfectly fine. JREF can KISS MY A**!
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Originally posted by Craig Ranke CIT
Originally posted by 911files
Why would I want to Craig?
In order to demonstrate that you were being honest when you claimed they have not been removed from the internet.
It's clear t hat you cannot proving that you were of course lying again.
All of that material is being put into a book,
Oh really?
So the dozens of articles you wrote and published online chronicling your "research" and continuous personal attacks against us will be put into a "book"?
For some reason I find that hard to believe. Are people supposed to then buy this book?
Either way it proves you were just now lying about the notion that they were all still in the public domain.
Sadly though, my files are done and I have work to do. JREF has a cool search function and the name is the same there. I don't post there any more because they keep blocking you and your trolls which just takes all the fun out of it.
The articles are not on jref or anywhere and you know it.
What's funny is that you are now even going so far as to lie about why you can't even post at jref anymore.
Here is the truth about that....
You wrote:
Well, yours truly just got threatened with suspension because when HI attacked the OP author as being stupid, I asked him if he was sober. Yet the "stupid" remarks are left as perfectly fine. JREF can KISS MY A**!
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With that emotional outburst that in essence was you committing suicide by mod, you once again faded into oblivion apparently to work on this new scrapbook of all your previously deleted articles.
Originally posted by 911files
Darn, can't believe anything you read in the paper anymore.
Originally posted by 911files
Darn Craig, you really are a poor researcher. Check my 911files ID. You'll find I was not suspended or banned. I canceled my membership on the board. It stopped being fun.
Please stop being delusional Craig. 911files.info was not about you. It was as described a place to make my working notes public. So no, the book is not about you and I doubt if I will even mention you or CIT.