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Originally posted by pyrytyes
reply to post by ~Lucidity
"Reassure me that we would ber able to or give me more things to really stay up late at night worrying about. Either way, what do you think?"
Simple answer: No. No foreign power would attempt a forceful attack on the US mainland with the goal of occupation, annihilation.
Why would they have to attack in such a violent manner? The methodologies are already in place and active to step right in and take over without a shot fired or a bomb dropped. You just have to look at the current and recent past administrations to see that we are defeated already.
We, as a country are divided ideologically. When there are more on the side of de-weaponizing the populace, the take over will be complete.
Nikita Kruschev commented "We will bury you", his statement is not far from coming true. "not from without, but from within."
Get some sleep. Commrade. Big Brother watches over you...
Originally posted by surfinguru
reply to post by ~Lucidity
Well, let's see, the numerous men and women training and being trained in the armed services that are CONUS, Veterans themselves, National Guard Units, Reserves, DHS, NSA, CIA, FBI, local Police, Sheriff, SWAT Teams, private contractors (Xe for example), other firearms training facility employees in an of themselves is a pretty big list of people to organize and resist on a professional level.
Now, factor in the level of guns sales (1.2 million in April alone) and the fact that ammunition manufacturers can't keep up with demand tells me that a large portion of the US population is very well armed and ready.
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by jprophet420
I have no doubt Americans would fight however, wherever they needed to. Hell I would too. But how many would? Do you think our most densely populated areas would fare? The big cities. The states where they're more sitting ducks. I worry about them.
Also by saying this about the guerilla warfare, partisans, insurgency, are you also saying that out military might be stretched to thin? Or be too far away?
Originally posted by severdsoul
They may try, but it would never work, thanks to the 2nd amendment there are more guns in the U.S. than anywhere, combine that with the military fire power we have and who ever would invade would have quite the battle on hand.
I know for montana they did a survey last fall, they estimate 4 guns for every person alive just in our little state.
I am sure people would wake up and take arms to fight if it was on U.S. soil, all the nancy do rights would change their tune and stand up for whats right.
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Originally posted by jprophet420
Vietnam wtfpwnd us and so did Iraq on home turf. And were not 3rd world. I'm not worried in the slightest.
I'm not sure what your comments about Vietnam and Iraq means? I'm aware we're not quite third world yet too. And I'm glad you're not worried.
But tell me WHY you're not worried? If this scenario were to unfold, what would happen?
Originally posted by LeTan
If you really want to feel better, watch the movie Red Dawn. I know its hollywood, but I think it very accurately shows how the American people will react. Scared at first, but slowly they become brave and aware of what is going on and take their country back from the Soviets.
If there is one thing the rest of the world doesn't have that we do is the basic understanding of human flaw and error and how to exploit it. They used the perversion of soviet troops in red dawn to lure them into an ambush. A lot of women (not all) in the states are good at manipulation. I wish i was kidding.
[edit on 4-7-2009 by LeTan]
[edit on 4-7-2009 by LeTan]
Originally posted by secretagent woooman
No offense but the chances of militias and armed citizens defending the country is nil. If anything they'll be viewed as an internal security threat due to ties to anti-government and Neo-Nazi groups, and those who are ex-military would be reinstated for service. Having paranoid people running around with guns conducting their own little war in the midst of a national crisis is the last thing anyone needs.
If you guys are that serious about fighting, why not sign up for the National Guard and get paid to train? At least you would learn the proper way to do this. Not to mention, you'd be off FBI watchlists.
Re: Chinese forces. Much of mainland China is a desert and those people live in basic conditions far harsher than the average American. If anything they are far better conditioned to survival than us, they are not dependent on air conditioning.
The two big assets the US would have is an extremely large geographic area and heavy defense installations that can hit targets around the world.
The biggest negatives? The fleet and active force is too spread out across the world to immediately respond to a crisis, and lack of backup. I;d be surprised to see anyone beyond England send forces, possibly Canada. Most countries have their own internal problems at the moment.
Originally posted by gravykraken
sure. it hasn't happened yet, and most likley for good reason.
invading forces would probably be stopped in their tracks at the Rockies and Mississippi River. IF they ever made it to the souther states, there would be a blood bath the likes of wich the world has never seen.
Originally posted by pyrytyes
IF this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ were to happen, it would be by INVITATION from our own government, especially if it were to be on a massive scale. Our tax dollars have paid for some mighty fine defenses, early warning systems in the years that I've been paying into the system.
On the other hand...where is the nearest "gun tower" to your location? I am in Tucson, and never have I seen one, let alone one available for my use. The military will take care of it, unless they are ordered to stand down and allow it to happen.
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Will we rally? It has been known to happen, and I have no doubt that s.hould the scenario play out as you seem to hope, the populace will an-up and yes, rally.
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