Warnings From The Benevolents!

reply to post by MamaJ


I too am fascinated by NDEs. But they sometimes contradict each other. For example some Catholic saints or children were taken to hell by Virgin Mary as a warning to share with others, and I wholly believe the apparitions are true. And yet an Evangelical had an NDE and in it they were told Mary has no idea about the happening on earth and that it's all a satanic deception to divert attention away from Christ. I am scared that I may somehow be deceived and end up doing something that offends God in some way. Even the bible warns about deceiving spirits, and yet someone on ATS shared with me an experience where the voice of Mary came to his head and told him to follow Jesus. So yeah, murky subject.

reply to post by LeoVirgo

Learn about the word in 'life'...first. Then reread the bible and you can see why Jesus was able to say 'I am the word'...for when you awaken to the spirit that you really are...the 'life' of spirit within you becomes the 'word' as well. When all is ready, each will pick up their own cross. Until then, each will use scapegoats and use the blood of another man to Find the Way. There is a reason Jesus did not fight for his life of flesh...for he understood that this life of flesh is not the life we are here to live for and that letting go of the flesh you think you are, is a part of the path of picking up your cross and placing your earthly attachments apone it.

A MEN to that!!!! May I add....not just the Word "Life" but many other Word's have another meaning than you may perceive the first and second go around. The Word can come to life each to you read it! Love it!!!

Peace and love to you!!! xoxoxox

Jenn

Originally posted by 547000
reply to post by MamaJ

 

I too am fascinated by NDEs. But they sometimes contradict each other. For example some Catholic saints or children were taken to hell by Virgin Mary as a warning to share with others, and I wholly believe the apparitions are true. And yet an Evangelical had an NDE and in it they were told Mary has no idea about the happening on earth and that it's all a satanic deception to divert attention away from Christ. I am scared that I may somehow be deceived and end up doing something that offends God in some way. Even the bible warns about deceiving spirits, and yet someone on ATS shared with me an experience where the voice of Mary came to his head and told him to follow Jesus. So yeah, murky subject.

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I understand what you are saying, however when I study and research any subject I go all out. I mean I get my hands on everything I can of said interest. From there I weigh out stories that do not add up with the collective. What is left? The tales that are left that all add up can be disected as well. When you get to the core of what you think is truth...you still have to be objective with any "new" material you find yourself investigating. I for one think the spirit of truth always reveals itself....especially if you believe in it.

reply to post by MamaJ


What I found so awesome was after ridding of all my preconceived ideas and beliefs...and then finding the word of god in life around me...as I then went back and re read many things...I saw new things that then resonated with what I learned that I had not noticed before.

One of those things was something I found in the gospels of peace and it said 'cut the tree, I am there....lift the stone, you will find me'.....those words summed up what I discovered....in the design of life-that 'life' itself was filled and fattened, by God and that nothing was truly separate, from Thee.

I can still remember reading that line and smiling to myself out of joy for the understanding that came with it.

The joy was from the knowing that even before the books...one could of found Thee. When the builders had to but the trees, when they had to kill for their food, when they had to lift the stones to build....Thee was right there.

Its beautiful to know, Thee has always been where a seeker could find Thee. People want to hold all the details of what a book has to tell them....when the gems of life are simple...like the worth of giving, love, empathy, sharing, the fact that we all smile and cry, the fact that we all share the same world, we all look up at the same sky, we all dance, we all need water....we really are not strangers.

reply to post by Bridge_Boy

I have private e-mails where you claim to be exactly that.

If this is true, please forward me - via U2U - a copy. We can take it from there.

Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by MamaJ

 

What I found so awesome was after ridding of all my preconceived ideas and beliefs...and then finding the word of god in life around me...as I then went back and re read many things...I saw new things that then resonated with what I learned that I had not noticed before.

One of those things was something I found in the gospels of peace and it said 'cut the tree, I am there....lift the stone, you will find me'.....those words summed up what I discovered....in the design of life-that 'life' itself was filled and fattened, by God and that nothing was truly separate, from Thee.

I can still remember reading that line and smiling to myself out of joy for the understanding that came with it.

The joy was from the knowing that even before the books...one could of found Thee. When the builders had to but the trees, when they had to kill for their food, when they had to lift the stones to build....Thee was right there.

Its beautiful to know, Thee has always been where a seeker could find Thee. People want to hold all the details of what a book has to tell them....when the gems of life are simple...like the worth of giving, love, empathy, sharing, the fact that we all smile and cry, the fact that we all share the same world, we all look up at the same sky, we all dance, we all need water....we really are not strangers.

Oh.....so true my friend, and so beautiful are your words. They are dancing around in my head smiling and cheering you on for finding "Thee". When the Truth sprang within you I know you felt lighter than air. Truth in spirit leaves us jaw dropped yet yearning for more. We miss our home/unity and it is completely understandable.

We are all connected (as my signature states) and we can choose to love the ALL or fear it. What we as a whole do when making choices effects us all. Learning to love on all levels takes getting out of your conditioned realm and aligning yourself with the spirit realm time and time again. We are reminded with our sense's who we are and what we are here for. We can be mislead by the negative that seeps in or we can be vigilant and aware of such forces and handle them with care. We must think of others as I instead of I as ME. There is a "me" but collectively ME can literally make or break another. Caring for others is caring for our self as well. We all "matter" on a much larger scale than we can fathom, that is for sure!

We can look at a speck of dirt and know that it is MORE than meets the eye. It is a mere speck...but out of that speck look at what can be created with the energy of a speck of dirt. It is created in such a way we do not grasp, yet we can take it and analyze it and look at it closer and see it is so much more. What one may consider of no relation to God....IS.

reply to post by MamaJ


Very beautiful

Something else I discovered was that home, was a state of being, within me. Home can 'be' when I find the same light that is within me, within other life around me. Home was not a place I was needing to 'go to' but a place I had to find in the 'now'.

Best wishes to you and yours MamaJ

Home was not a place I was needing to 'go to' but a place I had to find in the 'now'.

reply to post by LeoVirgo


I find myself always yearning for that "place" and I find more peace when I am in that state of awareness. Does that make sense to you? I hope so....makes sense to me but you know how another can get lost within another's word and or words and be like...HUH?

reply to post by Beamish

Originally posted by Beamish
reply to post by Valeri

 

As do I. However, it is advisable – for those listening to this advice – to be wary of any possible agenda behind it. Because, believe it or not, there are disingenuous people proclaiming to know the truth.

Sure.One should always try to make up his own mind about the message given and if there is an agenda behind it, but at the end of the day it is only you who reads the message and either feels it to be true in his spirit or not. Having an open mind and hearing advice,warnings etc doesn't mean being gullible and gulping everything up like a sponge. Discernment is crucial.

And yes, some may say that the truth, no matter how it is delivered, is all that’s important, but I’d rather (if I were that way inclined) adhere to the philosophy of a genuine, detached teacher than someone who encourages the individual to follow his teachings to the letter.

Though Et-Man doesn't encourage anyone to follow his words to the letter per say, he however ecourages to PONDER,weigh the information given and make up ones own mind about it,after discerning with your spirit.

Thanks for your explanation. You’ll forgive me if I point out that it is all conjecture, with absolutely no basis in science and without even a meniscus of circumstantial evidence.

Sure, the mainstream science community hasn't proven or isn't claiming these notions as fact.
One has to realize however that science and people of scientific mind are very limited in their ability to analyze much of anything that is beyond the 5 senses of the human body vessel. Scientific methods,that are solely based on the limited spectrum of the 5 senses of the human body also,and OBVIOUSLY SO limit the knowledge they can obtain or find out based only on those limited senses with limtied spectrums to it.
Here's an example.
A human ear is unable to hear a dog whistle,because the wavelengths that a human ear can hear are very limited. 20 Khz up to 20 000Khz i believe ? Anything below or above that is not sensed in any shape or form by the human ear, however a dogs' ear does,which proves its existence as a wavelength.
A sound that exists, despite human senses not being able to sense it.
If there were no dogs,would we even know such a sound exists?! something to ponder about

Same goes for everything else. Science and scientific method is very limited in what it can analyze or PROVE as you say. Just like the human ear not being able to sense beyond a certain limit...the scientific method is unable to sense/measure/prove anything beyond the scope/limit of their human senses or the limits of the technology they may be using.

So you see beamish, the scientific method is not capable of proving anything beyond their limits of sensing/measuring. (And I would like to add,that they have measured/proven much more than they let you think they have...even the science journals are always many steps behind what is already proven/possible)

You,by believing only what scientific method tells you, are limiting yourself very much,when it comes to knowledge beyond the limited physical body senses.



reply to post by Bridge_Boy
sheesh, talk about not bringing anything to the table,beyond anger and angst. temper temper lol.

Sure, the mainstream science community hasn't proven or isn't claiming these notions as fact. One has to realize however that science and people of scientific mind are very limited in their ability to analyze much of anything that is beyond the 5 senses of the human body vessel. Scientific methods,that are solely based on the limited spectrum of the 5 senses of the human body also,and OBVIOUSLY SO limit the knowledge they can obtain or find out based only on those limited senses with limtied spectrums to it. Here's an example. A human ear is unable to hear a dog whistle,because the wavelengths that a human ear can hear are very limited. 20 Khz up to 20 000Khz i believe ? Anything below or above that is not senses in any shape or form by the human ear, however a dogs' ear does,which proves it's existence as a wavelength. A sound that exists, despite human senses not being able to sense it. If there were no dogs,would we even know such a sound exists?! something to ponder about Same goes for everything else. Science and scientific method is very limtied in what it can analyze or PROVE as you say. Just like the human ear not being able to sense beyond a certain limit...the scientific method is unable to sense/measure/prove anything beyond the scope/limit of their human senses or the limits of the technology they may be using. So you see beamish, the scientific method is not capable of proving anything beyond their limits of sensing/measuring. (And I would like to add,that they have measured/proven much more than they let you think they have...even the science journals are always many steps behind what is already proven/possible) You,by believing only what scientific method tells you, are limiting yourself very much,when it comes to knowledge beyond the limtied physical body senses.

reply to post by Valeri


VERY good points made here and may I add something. Scientists can be looked at in different ways of thinking because they are all composed with different mind sets and biased opinions. It takes a LOT of work and data and fight to change an old thinking in their community. They can hold us back BIG TIME because the majority will choose to not let go of a theory that has been proven wrong. We see it all the time. Humans will be humans and in any professional field such as a Doctrine field....they are always theorizing and practicing. Nothing is set in stone. The obvious though....cause and effect IS.

Love ya'll!!!!! xoxoxox

Jenn

Originally posted by redgy
reply to post by ET_MAN

 

so there is no "hell" in the sense of how scripture pertaining to this thread is used for that "TRUTH", because the hell found through christianity does infact say that it WILL BE FOR ETERNITY and any hope of ever seeing the light from such a place, can never again be experienced to those who are sent there.

why not just put those who are not worthy enough to rest, why punish them for an ETERNITY without escape.

carm.org... just some of the teachings of jesus and whats found through verses of the bible.

edit on 31-8-2011 by redgy because: added link

I totally agree with what youve said in the second sentence, i dont believe for a moment that God is a creature that would eternally punish anyone, to do this would be sadism, and im sorry but i dont believe the creator of the universe is a pervert. If the creator was that displeased wouldnt it just be easier to bin that soul or to end its existance rather than eternal damnation?

reply to post by thedoctorswife


For the sake of trading opinions.....there are LAWS. They are observed in this existence and the fallen indeed reside HERE. This is where the negativity comes from. Thank God for the light.

Eternity can feel like eternity to the one experiencing such "Hell" but since Jesus the law changed and we are able to be "saved" from the "pit". IF WE ASK.

Energy lives on in a positive or negative realm. Once it is "saved" from the negative it can then move on to the positive. (My opinion of course)

Cause and Effect. Laws are everywhere and should be recognized by experience of perception on a daily basis.

reply to post by ET_MAN
Well, lets agree to disagree, i happen to believe im a fragment of God, created in the big bang, i dont see how i can be anything else, because nothing can exist that is aside from God or not God, (even if it currently doesnt remember that it is).

Originally posted by ET_MAN
reply to post by iamhobo

 

Hi Iamhobo,

At first ET_MAN was an alien/human hybrid, and now he's a bible beater. I'm thoroughly saddened.

If that's what you see perhaps that's all you will see. Pick up a book or bible and read it according to the eyes you have to see with. I've been accused of claiming to be an Alien-ET from another planet which I've never claimed. It's usually the name ET_MAN that confuses.

Love & Best Wishes!

ET_MAN

If and when this cataclysm happens, how will I be saved? According to what you say, if I prepare mentally I am basically saved. Will this 'saving' come from other beings, or will it be caused by me?

If it's caused by other beings, will they take me and/or my family away?

If it's caused by myself, is my mental preparedness going to 'deflect' whatever happens?

I have read the bible and I accept its moral lessons, that is all. Most if not all religions talk about a divine being...that is what I believe.

Please give me a straight answer if you know, I would prefer to not get a lengthy philosophical answer.

reply to post by MamaJ


Yes, I think we learn from one another and can all contribute, ie. like a big LibreOffice file, adding all our bits and pieces. Why do some need to fall into lava or a lake to know it can burn or drown one, some know without experiencing this already. We certainly should be more willing to find peace, unity, and empower each other.

for me, earth is home, and heaven or hell is what you make of it, with my rose coloured glasses on I see only that which is good throughout nature, an earth with so much potential and ability to provide everyone that spiritually uplifting peace we all so desire. it is so limitless and free and the connection to which moves ones soul to unwind their daily grinds and become as one with all lifes glory. for it is how one lives on this earth that allows for such change of spirit.

some may see it as only a battleground, I see the world as my backyard, a place where heaven already exists, and is only waiting for its moment to guide all towards this direction of peace and love, a direction away from the hell it has become, and the move towards the yearning to which ones spirit calls from within for a new and better future for all to see.

peace to all.

reply to post by Unity_99


Dear unity, the problem is that the people who can make a real difference, because of the power and wealth they have surrounded themselves with, have no heart.

We are at the point where most authoritarian leaders and people who run Governments and Agencies are Psychopathic in nature, which means they also are heartless.

Your solutions are good and make sense for most people, but the psychopaths have the power...... and the rest of us seem to gladly give them this power, willingly. Being without conscience, empathy and good will towards fellow human beings, these psychos in control will never give a rip for any one but themselves. Oh, they can act like they do in front of the public, but nothing ever seems to change with regards to world humanitarian efforts.

The killing, suffering, starvation, pollution and other horrid issues just move forward at a steady, ever increasing pace.

These psychopaths would rather blame lung cancer on tobacco than on the real cause, the pollution in the air we breathe. What hope do we have for real change?.... and that is coming from one of the most optimistic people I know....me!

I also call a spade, "a spade".

Whether ET is truly warning us of impending disaster or just setting up another false flag for the psychos in power is still being deliberated. Lord only knows, the number of various warnings around these days definitely gives the impression we are being set up for something big.

reply to post by ET_MAN


ET_MAN
1. Is there any truth being said in this video?:
www.youtube.com...

2. Will the Anunnaki return to Earth someday?

3. Are any cosmic laws going to be broken for a person that leaves Earth and settles on another Earth-like planet where humans live?

4. Is a brown dwarf coming from a different dimension in October this year a catalyst event towards 2012 and purification of the Earth?

5. Does Jesus know about Grey Aliens?

6. What is the closest Earth-like planet with other humans living on it to Earth?

7. Is Earth alive and has a soul and is not just a "ball of rock"?

Thank you so much ET_MAN

Originally posted by Beamish
reply to post by Bridge_Boy

 

I have private e-mails where you claim to be exactly that.

If this is true, please forward me - via U2U - a copy. We can take it from there.

I already posted them on either this thread or another one of his and the posts got removed. I also got slated by his followers saying it was bad form posting on this website private e-mails. I'll see what I can dig out though.

Originally posted by iamhobo

Originally posted by ET_MAN
reply to post by iamhobo

 

Hi Iamhobo,

At first ET_MAN was an alien/human hybrid, and now he's a bible beater. I'm thoroughly saddened.

If that's what you see perhaps that's all you will see. Pick up a book or bible and read it according to the eyes you have to see with. I've been accused of claiming to be an Alien-ET from another planet which I've never claimed. It's usually the name ET_MAN that confuses.

Love & Best Wishes!

ET_MAN

If and when this cataclysm happens, how will I be saved? According to what you say, if I prepare mentally I am basically saved. Will this 'saving' come from other beings, or will it be caused by me?

If it's caused by other beings, will they take me and/or my family away?

If it's caused by myself, is my mental preparedness going to 'deflect' whatever happens?

I have read the bible and I accept its moral lessons, that is all. Most if not all religions talk about a divine being...that is what I believe.

Please give me a straight answer if you know, I would prefer to not get a lengthy philosophical answer.

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Bridge Boy - Where were you from before you were re-incarnated to earth physically? Which planet? Star System? Race of beings?

ET_MAN - The closest way to answer your question would be to say I came what you would consider to be another universe/dimension/existence, I chose to be born on this planet of my own freewill without it being a requirement. I have been told this is one of the reasons why I have been allowed to remember certain things and given certain privledge's visitations and so on, I cannot tell you which planet, star system or race of beings because I could not put it into words. I did not come from this universe or physical state of existence I came from a much different place were you do not need to see only feel, everything was done by feeling without sight. There was no physical world only relationships based on feeling, communication came from feelings. I could not continue describing more than that as it would be hard for me to put into words and hard for you to understand what I am describing. In fact I doubt there is vocabulary available to describe how this place was, I also know that some of you experienced this state of existence as well but not all and most of you will experience this type of place some point in your future state. If there is one thing I could share with everyone that is never doubt your inner feelings and go with what you feel not what you think.


READING THAT SEEMS LIKE HE IS CLAIMING TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN EARTH BEFORE CHOOSING TO BE RE-INCARNATED HERE. SOUNDS PRETTY ALIEN TO ME!!!!!