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From my own experience, personal growth work is the hardest thing one can ever do, and most don't even want to believe they need to do it. They'd much rather suppress all the issues that make them angry or sad or whatever supposed 'negative' emotion and pretend they are all just about 'love, love, love'. I see it in a lot of the new age people I know and of course in the 'religious' people I know. They are so busy rescuing others because the 'love' them, that they personally are a mess, and their lives are a mess, but not matter.. they are loving everyone! *rolls eyes*
Originally posted by Hazelnut
When I read the above statement DragonriderGal, I had to reply.
Personal growth work is the hardest thing one person can ever do. That statement, at least to me, is the most true thing I've ever heard.
I had an anger habit. While the habit was useful and got me through some very difficult times, eventually I realized the power I gained through anger was inhibiting my life in significant ways. The realization that I had an anger addiction hit me all at once. I was previously unaware that the statement was true about me. I felt powerful, safe, ever on the offensive (as the strongest defense) and able to cope with whatever trial or crisis life threw at me next.
To make this a short statement, it took me years to overcome the anger habit I had developed over the course of 30 years. The first step was admitting the truth. Second, discover what made me adopt this course of survival. Third, how to overcome my conditioning that I was only becoming aware of. Fourth. PRACTICE. Fifth. Forgive myself for relapses.
Now, I'm a different person. Not so much better. Just not so dependent on anger in place of coping through compassion. Compassion for myself. Giving myself the chance to experience a situation without the anger. To my surprise, I found out that I'm a very loveable, loving, giving person who has always been afraid of being hurt. To avoid being hurt, I got angry instead. Now I'm willing to feel the hurt since it can't be avoided - only dealt with.
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to express these thoughts to someone who obviously understands.
Questioner: I would like for you to define love in its sense as the second distortion.
Ra: I am Ra. This must be defined against the background of intelligent infinity or unity or the One Creator with the primal distortion of free will. The term Love then may be seen as the focus, the choice of attack, the type of energy of an extremely, shall we say, high order which causes intelligent energy to be formed from the potential of intelligent infinity in just such and such a way. This then may be seen to be an object rather than an activity by some of your peoples, and the principle of this extremely strong energy focus being worshipped as the Creator instead of unity or oneness from which all Loves emanate.
Originally posted by blujay
I was having issues with the use of the word Love while reading the Law of One. Then I got to the seesion that the questioner asked Ra to define Love:
Questioner: I would like for you to define love in its sense as the second distortion.
Ra: I am Ra. This must be defined against the background of intelligent infinity or unity or the One Creator with the primal distortion of free will. The term Love then may be seen as the focus, the choice of attack, the type of energy of an extremely, shall we say, high order which causes intelligent energy to be formed from the potential of intelligent infinity in just such and such a way. This then may be seen to be an object rather than an activity by some of your peoples, and the principle of this extremely strong energy focus being worshipped as the Creator instead of unity or oneness from which all Loves emanate.
So I take it as, instead of referring to running around loving and hugging everything, the word also can refer to using focus or awareness .. or creation, even.
Focus on the self is paramount in these times. I believe that now more than ever, we should be intent on caring for our selves, finding our passions and being aligned with our soul.
Originally posted by Almeida
Dear DragonRiderGal.
I have fought my way through your thread, insisting on not missing any information that you might provide. It made me annoyed, to say it the least, to see 75% of the thread end up in a unnecsessary discussion.
I hope that DK has decided to stop answering on this thread, aswell as I hope that you have decided to stop answering him. For you must know, that you also keep it going - DK is not nescessarily a well-paid NWO puppy, he is merely a person whos soul has not gained enough experience and wisdom to handle these questions yet. That is not an attack towards DK, I believe that it requires several lifetimes for the soul to reach a certain wisdom. He will have his time.
Originally posted by Almeida
And now back to the originals.
I find everything you write very interesting. I am a young person who has just recently started exploring the opinions of others (Religions, spirituality, science, etc etc) - I have always been easy to persuade and my mind can easily find reason in almost anything said, so I decided at a young age that I would find my own truth, from the inside.
I don't remember my youngest years, till about the age of 10 very much. I cannot say that I have always been spiritual, been different, or significally outlawed in the general thinking.
However, when my first depression hit me at the age of 13 my whole self-evaluation started, which step by step evolved into massive theories about soulwisdom, the universe, neverending theories about everything. I could, and still can conjure up these things in my mind, that I don't know how to explain to others. I'm very intelligent, but I do not consider myself smarter than others. It's more like as if my brain has alot more capacity to search in than the normal crowd.
About the age of 15 I realized that I could sense peoples state of emotions from hundres of miles distance. Kind of the like you hear with twins, but only if I tuned in on someone who was emotionally close to me.
About the age of 16 I realized that I could control heat and cold in my body, aswell as channel energies from myself into others. This would always leave me with a great headache and a massive tiredness, as I only knew how to tap on my own energy reserves (and still.)
The only thing that makes me feel truly passionated inside is the thought of actively working for love - in ways of human rights, tolerance, politics, helping people with self exploring and such.
Originally posted by Almeida
With all that being said, I have suffered from anxiety and massive depressions since the age of 13 and I am still trying to break out of my destructive emotional patterns and my way of thinking.
It is in great periods very hard for me to connect with my feelings, as my whole world exists inside that "extra capaticy" inside my brain, that I feel like I am SUPPOSED to use for something. I can honestly say, that I feel like I have all of the answers to peace and love inside me, but I can only reach them in the state between awake and asleep, which means that I can never remember them when I way up - I only know that I had them there, for a few seconds, then they went out of reach again.
I have felt for a long time that a part of my soul was not meant for a human body.
The greatest part of me is very human though - just like the people around me.
Now, the conclusion is:
I know my words might not be of great relevance to the topic itself, but I am a lost little one, who feels misplaced and on the same time put here with a great purpose that noone can afford to miss.
I have also mentioned how you all are being groomed to help the indigo leadership take over the planet, and part of that is that whole 'mission' thing, from what I can see, but really since this is the time humanity is going to be making enlightenment, there is a huge and very important purpose we, each and every one of us that is alive now, is here for.
I have found very, very few that I have been able to even process this in a way that their minds could remotely understand what I was trying to explain to them.
After reading your topic, I can see clearly that you are a very intelligent person, who is not deluded by lack of words, experience, studies and clear understanding.
I guess I am just one, searching for a way to cope and understand all of these things going on inside me.
I was hoping you could help me.
Love, Elise
Originally posted by Almeida
As my post ran out of room for letters, I'll just finish up here.
Thank you very much for the time and effort and the love you put into this DragonRiderGal. Many things in your posts makes sense with the fragments inside of me that I can't seem to put together.
Oh and I also forgot to say, that I have since the age of 13 been on and off different brain meds. I have been on a very strong med for 1½ year now, which has pretty much dumbed me down, I feel a significant change in my ability to remember things, and to put together the pieces inside myself. Like, the places in my mind where there should have been clear thoughts, is filled with big black blurry spots. Plus alot of other things, including tons of horrible physical effects (I will start getting off this meds next week, cause I for many reasons don't want to be on it anymore. Mainly that it dumbs me down).
Btw - Don't attempt to answer my post with simple, understandable words. Whatever you feel is needed to include there, just spill it out!
I am very smart and I will research every word you say anyways
[edit on 17-10-2009 by Almeida]
Originally posted by blujay
I was having issues with the use of the word Love while reading the Law of One. Then I got to the seesion that the questioner asked Ra to define Love:
Questioner: I would like for you to define love in its sense as the second distortion.
Ra: I am Ra. This must be defined against the background of intelligent infinity or unity or the One Creator with the primal distortion of free will. The term Love then may be seen as the focus, the choice of attack, the type of energy of an extremely, shall we say, high order which causes intelligent energy to be formed from the potential of intelligent infinity in just such and such a way. This then may be seen to be an object rather than an activity by some of your peoples, and the principle of this extremely strong energy focus being worshipped as the Creator instead of unity or oneness from which all Loves emanate.
So I take it as, instead of referring to running around loving and hugging everything, the word also can refer to using focus or awareness .. or creation, even.
Focus on the self is paramount in these times. I believe that now more than ever, we should be intent on caring for our selves, finding our passions and being aligned with our soul.
Originally posted by xds777
Originally posted by blujay
I was having issues with the use of the word Love while reading the Law of One. Then I got to the seesion that the questioner asked Ra to define Love:
Questioner: I would like for you to define love in its sense as the second distortion.
Ra: I am Ra. This must be defined against the background of intelligent infinity or unity or the One Creator with the primal distortion of free will. The term Love then may be seen as the focus, the choice of attack, the type of energy of an extremely, shall we say, high order which causes intelligent energy to be formed from the potential of intelligent infinity in just such and such a way. This then may be seen to be an object rather than an activity by some of your peoples, and the principle of this extremely strong energy focus being worshipped as the Creator instead of unity or oneness from which all Loves emanate.
So I take it as, instead of referring to running around loving and hugging everything, the word also can refer to using focus or awareness .. or creation, even.
Focus on the self is paramount in these times. I believe that now more than ever, we should be intent on caring for our selves, finding our passions and being aligned with our soul.
(Self-)Organizing, Utopian love. Yes, that is precisely my perception. Out of chaos into order. (But it may also be out of order into supposed chaos)
[edit on 18-10-2009 by xds777]
Originally posted by DragonriderGal
Originally posted by xds777
(Self-)Organizing, Utopian love. Yes, that is precisely my perception. Out of chaos into order. (But it may also be out of order into supposed chaos)
[edit on 18-10-2009 by xds777]
What you learn with systems theory is that there isn't any chaos really. It usually is that you are too close or looking at too low of a level to see the overarching pattern.
[edit on 19-10-2009 by DragonriderGal]
Originally posted by xds777
Originally posted by DragonriderGal
Originally posted by xds777
(Self-)Organizing, Utopian love. Yes, that is precisely my perception. Out of chaos into order. (But it may also be out of order into supposed chaos)
[edit on 18-10-2009 by xds777]
What you learn with systems theory is that there isn't any chaos really. It usually is that you are too close or looking at too low of a level to see the overarching pattern.
[edit on 19-10-2009 by DragonriderGal]
Agree.
The universe is a very very very interesting/complex system.
[edit on 20-10-2009 by xds777]
Originally posted by knightsof0ld
more moer!!!!! This is an interesting topic
Originally posted by Almeida
Dear DragonriderGal.
Thank you for your answers.
I have a few questions.
1: What do you mean that you used to be a Dragonrider?
2: What are the origins of Indigos, what are they (or we)?
I read that indigos are here mainly to pave the way for the Crystal children. Is there anything about this?
It might be very normal, but since I was a little kid, I've always attracted kids attention. They would gaze at me in busses, public places etc. I mean really GAZE, as if they saw something not human. They weren't scared of me though. More like... fascinated. Of course, children are curious and exploring, but I've talked with many about this and noone seems to have had the same thing. It's been like that since I was a little kid and still it's still like that.
1. Do you think maybe it has something to do with the intuition children have, that hasnt been ruined by indoctrination yet?
Thank you very much again, and thank you for suggesting the emotional freedom techniques, I'll defiently check that out
Hugs,
Elise
Originally posted by xds777
Hi again DrG,
* Do you have any impressions of why the indigo race, previous to their chosen incarnation on earth, did not evacuate themselves to a nearby located planet (instead of taking the blues proposal to transfer their spirits, in exchange (possibly) for their worldly, physical belongings/leftbehinds)?
There must have been some planet SOMEWHERE for a fairly advanced space-travelling species?
* Was this contract with the blues made in the spirit or physical realm (more asking, where they dead when they accepted the proposal)?
I am looking to learn more about Indigo's, reading your blog atm. Cool stuff!
/ Semi-Active Searcher since ~4 years
[edit on 24-10-2009 by xds777]