Timewave Zero - Countdown to Transition

I gave another look to August 11 Novelty Dip ( with average mistake is July 20- 22 ) and is DEFINITELY BIGGER than the one in October...

Originally posted by tracer7
I have been working with the online twz and stellarium to try and put together a some ideas of how the stars match up with the twz. I personally think that astrology and the twz are very close to each other and may help decipher the cycles of events. this is just my own personal 2 cents I do not want to derail the work you everyone is doing. still interesting to follow.

I dont think you are de-railing it at all. Astrology is something i hinted at a while ago, but, like you, didnt want to divert attention !

The timewave is based on measurement, thats what the ancients did, they measured the movements in the heavens. The timewave is a frequency, an oscillation of time. This is what i wrote a while ago.

"Hopefully you may understand something ive been messing with for the last 10 years then !

Normally 'A' is tuned to 440hz so if you want your music to be totally harmonic with itself (and you are in the key of A) then your tempo needs to be 440 bpm, or 220 or 110 etc. The problem with this method is that if you change key then other notes become infinite decimals. ie. each note increment is 18.666666 recuring, which you cant program a tempo to do. You can only get a close approximation.

If however you tune 'A' to 432 hz then, for example, the note 'D' becomes 144, or 288 etc hz (depending on octave) the notes all become nice whole numbers and you can get all your tempos in harmony with the key you are in.

Also you have a base harmonic that knits all the notes and tempos together, that being 9. (4+3+2=9 1+4+4= 9) this opens up loads of useful tempos like 72 bpm (normal heart rate) 108 bpm 126 bpm, 135 bpm, 144 bpm, 152 bpm and on and on .......

Next, notice how these numbers are all 'mystical' as in they have been used in religions for thousands of years.

72 degrees per Astrological star sign

2160 years per star sign 2+1+6+0=9

The Bible, (revelations)
144,000 chosen ones
The Vedas
Kali yuga = 432,000 years
Satyug = 1,728,000
Treta = 1,296,000
Dwapar = 864,000

Mayan calendar

Tun = 18 uinal = 360 days
Katun = 20 tun = 7,200 days
Baktun = 20 katun = 144,000 days

Norse mythology

"500 doors and 40 there are,
I ween, in Valhalla's walls;
800 fighters through each door fare,
When to war with the Wolf they go."

( 540 x 800 = 432000 )

....then we have the precession of the equinoxes of 25920 years (try playing with that number and frequencies....you may be surprised !)

So how does this link to the timewave ? Well, if the universe operates on these frequencies (because they are harmonically connected and thus the 'easiest' states for energy to take) then all occurances and events that we experience must follow the same laws of harmony or, as we say, syncronicity !

phew !"

So, in a nutshell, i see the timewave as being akin to a piece of music.


[edit on 19-7-2010 by Wobbly Anomaly]

reply to post by Wobbly Anomaly


I think you're still missing the entire point of my request. Once again:

It has been requested that I include one (and possibly two more data sets) within my presentation on this thread. Presently, I primarily focus on the Kelley graph and, as I'm sure you are aware, my participation in this discussion has been limited (which is due to obvious reasons like family, work, etc). Therefore I asked for help with that ongoing presentation of data.

My modest requests of a specific guideline of standards so to speak is not beyond reason.

This is a large thread approaching 100 pages (and is the 8th most flagged thread on ATS in a 2 year span as of posting this), and many things posted previously here are buried deep within the 2000 posts comprising the discussion. One easy way of finding particular posts are via visual markers, be them avatars or graphs, which help especially if you have forgotten the username of the person who made some interesting comments you are searching for.

Once again, it is not beyond reason that I, being the originator of this discussion should also want some level of assistance with the 'upkeep' and that I request a streamlining of visual standards in order for it to be less unwiedly in scope and user-friendly for all those either participating within or just stopping by. Again, I have placed no stipulations on what's being said here. If you perceive that there is (or will be) a lack of freedom, then I apologize for that is absolutely not my intention.

This is a big site Evasiuis and people express themselves on here with some cool avatar pics which we are able to associate with the character or personality behind them. I'm sure you are very aware that when a few people begin to share a particular theme, especially one connected to a particular thread, then they will be viewed in a slightly different way than if they have no avatar or one they've chosen for personal reasons.

Then what is a Moderator? Why have a visual theme amongst mods? Why have a tag such as 'forum moderator' accompanying the username? The answer's obvious. I'm simply looking for a level of coherence on how data is presented and assistance with taking on 2 more data sets. The changes are aesthetic and would be helpful to not only me but others perusing this colossal thread.

'Choose your own path but change your identity in line with me' is a bit of a dichotomy.

You've made it a dichotomy. I'm seeking a bit of structure within this thread, not a nazi-esque hierarchy. 'Choose the path' is directed at those 2 volunteers that would like to help - so, to those 2 individuals, please pick either Sheliak or Watkins (the path), and make it so (do the research, hold it up to historical scrutiny, see how your own life reflects the changes in the graph, and how anything else in the universe might reflect those changes). Simple.

You're reading way too much in my request I'm afraid. It's gotten to the point I can't get assistance without gathering a 'cult,' as you put it. What part of 'be the person you know you are, make changes in you that reflect the changes you want to see in the world, and do the right thing' is cultish?

Ive noticed a slight trend on here, people associating the timewave with how they feel or their own personal experiences.

Indeed, this was the first aspect of the Timewave McKenna explored over 2 decades of development. McKenna primarily considered it a graph of one's personal experience of novelty, and he even conducted personal sessions with clients where they explored together his/her personal timeline. Mckenna felt that individual experience could then be expanded to encompass and define the collective experience, and perhaps beyond known experience.

Global timeline correlations came after first holding up his own life in comparison with the Timewave. And this should be considered first by each and every person interested in Novelty Theory, afterall you can only know what you experience, all other information is the result of third party interactions and so on down the increasingly complex web of connectivity.

Anyone presenting statistics and correlations based on say, political turmoil in Uganda for instance, should realize those that correlations are meaningless without their first being aware enough to notice the turmoil within their own lives possibly mirroring events elsewhere. Likewise, proponents of the Timewave solely tracking physical processes are only getting a tiny sliver of the overall picture without taking into consideration their own experience and world events.

...but my research suggests the timewave (if valid) has a much more universal significance.

Indeed. That's what I've been saying since the introduction of my first Timewave thread. I've only recently taken on board this, IMO, highly relevant notion of the Timewave tracking the evolution of thought and our experience of Now. What else could it be tracking? Let's see the list (feel free to add your own):

1 The evolution of thought (individual, global, universal)

2. Our experience of 'Now.'

3. Physical universal/galactic/solar system processes which flux in cycles - within the flux there is a countdown that tracks our approach towards a physical point in space where great change regularly occurs.

4. Energetic universal/galactic/solar system processes which also flux in cycles - when incorporated with our physical path in the universe, the countdown possibly tracks fluctuations in the rise and fall in intensity of certain energies responsible for changes in biology or consciousness.

5. Some aspect of our Sun's energetic cycle that is currently unknown, yet affects our development.

6. The evolving energetic relationship between Sun and Earth.

7. An embedded countdown or trigger mechanism within our DNA that requires outside activation (reliant on external energies), or possibly even a change within (a change in consciousness). Once activated spawns the change that begins our next step of evolution. The 64 hexagrams of the I-Ching mirroring the 64 codons within the genetic code.

8. Increasing compression, merging, and overlapping of possible timelines/parallel realities resulting in one experienced path with one possible outcome.

9. The countdown towards our collective incorporation of a new dimension (or dimensions) into our experienced awareness.

10. The countdown towards our leaving this dimension for another.

11. A countdown within humanity's historical timeline where each passing event leads us closer and closer to an end of history and time as we know it.

12. The process leading up to time travel being invented.

13. A countdown within humanity's technological timeline marking our approach towards a technological singularity.

14. The merger with one or more additional Timewaves representing alien cultures initiating contact with us. Zero point could be the result of 'wave interference,' and December 2012 wouldn't necessarily mark the exact point of contact, but could be the midway point where we cross an invisible threshold bringing about the circumstances allowing for contact.

15. The countdown towards the 'point of no return' where, if we don't get it together, we're evicted and new tenants start their lease on this planet.

16. The return of Jesus, Nibiru, the apocalypse, pole shift, CME, you name it, it's been proposed as a scenario.

17. We collectively realize reality is manifested by thought. This triggers a catastrophic failure within the matrix and activats a restart, or a universal 'blue-screen.'

18. The countdown towards quarantine regulations being lifted. Once this happens, the holographic Dyson sphere surrounding our planet is removed, and we finally see the universe for what it is.

19. The higher consciousness dreaming all this stuff wakes up.

20. The computational process generating all this is approaching its end where the resulting data will be returned to the great server in the sky as either a '1' or '0.'

21. I'm personally generating this reality, and at zero point I die - so you all disappear with me. The Timewave tracks my path and you're all just artifacts of my own synaptic processes.

On and on and on...like I said feel free to add to the list.

...but you are not sat at a table by yourself. There are lots of us on just this thread throwing a lot of input into this subject and with all due respect, you may be missing something very crucial which may continue to be missed if people begin to structure their research , however slight, around your subjective experience of the timewave.

I'm not asking to center the research around subjective experience, I'm saying it must be incorporated in order for it to hold any value at all. Saying it's only this or saying it's only that without holding it in comparison with your own life is to be missing the point of it in the first place.

About the table thing - sorry how that sounded, but surely, surely you get what I'm saying. Kelly (1). Sheliak (2). Watkins (3). My presentation thus far focuses on Kelley. Help? Anyone? It would be appreciated.

...if it is important to our survival, then we need to question, question, question, otherwise it's just a fun game, a horoscope, a folly.

I agree, keep questioning. The theory is wide open. Any contribution is needed and thoroughly appreciated.

Your posts specifically on harmonics are deeply intriguing. Have you heard of Bruce Cathie and his work in 'harmonics'? You might find it interesting.

reply to post by Wobbly Anomaly


Thanks for the theory, Being a musician I get what you are saying. I have played around with frequencies and harmonics. I have been trying to link TWZ with something else. I personally think that is the key. after recently becoming aware of astrology because of leovirgo I have been doing dual research. to me they seem to be not a direct correlation but a minor shift. take for instance. using kelley the august 11 2010 dip

mercury and the moon in leo, saturn, mars, venus in virgo. that makes 2 in leo, 3 in virgo.



now resonating back to october 3 1861 dip.

saturn and jupiter in leo, mars, moon, mercury in virgo, again 2 in leo 3 in virgo.




The pattern is there, the planets are different leading to a different time period, different events, but still novelty events.

reply to post by Evasius


My goodness, if you spent as much time with your research as you have done trying to convince me that others should help you even more than they are doing.....you wouldnt need help !


I dont want to drag this on because i think it is damaging to the thread and the work people have put in but. My opinion stands, but it's only an opinion and i wish you luck finding your technicians.

I have heard of Bruce Cathie, thanks. Very interesting work. I think he is certainly 'on to something' with his concepts but his work doesnt really stand up to close scrutiny. He is a good example of why it is useful for people to research the same concept in their own ways) much of his work springs from ancient 'stories' for want of a better word, that tell of using frequencies to fly (vedas), move large stones (Egyptians and Aleister Crowley) and ley line energy. Theres something in it all, and its worth bearing in mind. He reminds me a bit of Dan Winter, excellent work, very clever, loads of effort but slightly misdirected (a bit like all of us i guess !)

Something i mentioned earlier was the book 'the Silmarrillion' by J. R. R. Tolkien which talks of angels being 'frequencies' created from the existing symphony of sound. Its only a book, but i think it is a good model to help visualise how the universe may be unfolding and evolving.

reply to post by tracer7


Thats very interesting indeed, i'm going to have to have a better look at what you are saying but it certainly makes sense that, whatever is going on with the Timewave is in some way mirrored more universally, as you are saying.

I'm not sure that fractal is the right word, but there are 2 factors that spring to mind straight away.

1) That the visual appearance of the movements of the stars and planets will effect our perception

2) The physical position of them and the resulting shapes/frequencies of space time, gravity waves etc, will have a further physical effect on events on earth. (And elsewhere.......and events elsewhere and at other times have had an effect on the position of the stars and planets)

Sorry for the short reply, i need to have a closer look before i can do your post justice.

reply to post by Wobbly Anomaly


thanks for being open minded
I am also interested in your frequency theories, I will definitely be looking into that. i got a full studio to work with so it may be time to experiment. I still don't quite understand the astrology aspect of why the planets have the effects they do, whether it be frequencies etc... looks like we all have some digging to do.

reply to post by Mr_Awesome


Well, I'm glad it sparked something within you and perhaps shed some new light on what you're going through. As for what I said about still having the option of choosing where that path leads, I meant now, not at zero point - and preferably well before it.

With each moment that passes, our possible futures are dwindling away - that is, either dissolving or in fact merging into eventually one timeline of experience. Right now we still have a myriad of options, though fewer than yesterday and a great many more than we'll have next week, month, or year. So make the most of Now.

I'm just now having a look at all the recent posts over the last 3 or 4 pages - brilliant work to say the least. I'll try and contribute as much as possible over the next few days during a bit of expected downtime here at work. In fact the lengthy post above was made possible by a slow news day here in the office...

Evasius do you use DosBox? I am more then willing to take on an intense look into the Sheliak set however I am having troubles getting the Timewave program to run on Windows Vista Home Premium. I just have to toy around with DosBox I guess and find the right directories. I was just wondering if you use any other program to run the Timewave.

Originally posted by Wobbly Anomaly
Yes I am. This from Wiki Science (from Latin: scientia, meaning "knowledge") is a systematic enterprise of gathering knowledge about nature and organizing and condensing that knowledge into testable laws and theories.

As i mentioned, i particularly did not mean untestable theory or subjective opinion, if a scientiest takes his prejudice into the lab then, again, that is something theoretical, untestable, subjective (much like the recent timewave discussion) and is best separated from observable, agreeable, reality.

You misunderstood the premise. Every scientist takes their prejudice into every experiment. The scientist is never separated from the experiment, and as such, there is no 'outside, agreeable reality' that you speak of. This has been all but proven with Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle, however groups such as Buddhists and Platonic realists have argued this idea for centuries.

I'm glad you mentioned quantum theory too, the most accurate description of reality that science has in its tool box. Quantum theory (amongst other things) deals with probabilty for example, the probabilty of an electron being in a particular location at a particular time. When we say 'there is only now' then maybe we should also say 'there is only HERE' too, but that doesnt help us with predicting the probabilty of an electron being observed otherwise science would say 'all electrons are right here, right now' and we wouldnt get very far with that. The science behind quantum theory allows everyone to experience the same, objective reality.

Electrons operate as far as we know as wave/particle dualities. An electron will take on every possible measurement at the same instant if there is no observer; once an observer (scientist) is included in the model then and only then does the electron act as a true particle, thus giving one the illusion of reality.

Quantum theory does not deal with the probability of an electron being in a certain location. Quantum theory, among many other things, deals with the notion that electrons operate under every single mathematical principle possible at once until an observer is included. As such in wave form electrons exist everywhere at every instant. Understanding this I am quite confused by your last sentence in the above paragraph. What part of Quantum Mechanics gave you the idea that everyone experiences the same objective reality? I only ask this because from my research Quantum theory has come to the exact opposite conclusion.

When we talk about infinite parallel realities this is a MODEL, like electrons orbiting a nucleus, it is not something that is taken as fact, it is just a tool to help our (pretty slow brains) to visualise something that is only really measurable and definable with mathematics.

Absolutely, I agree. However, the Multiverse Theory does indeed exist within modern String Theory, which happens to be the theory most modern Quantum and Nuclear physicists hold. As such within a 'scientific view' this model of 'infinite parallel realities' has to be taken quite seriously.

On this subject, I would say the only thing that exists outside of our own perceived reality is mathematics, but that is a discussion for another time and another thread.

So we get back to the timewave, is it a theory that allows us all to agree on the prediction of an 'event' (similar to the time and location of an electron in the future) or is it a subjective model, open to personal interpretation (like reading your star signs in the newspaper)

The Timewave was never intended to be used as a predictor of events. It measures novelty and habit within consciousness. I'm not sure if some past or present researchers in these threads or elsewhere have given you a false idea as to how the Timewave is to be used, but I can assure you this is not its function. That's why I might get slightly irritated when I see someone just list a date on the Timewave then just spout of a list of disasters or events that are possible to happen on that date. They are missing the premise entirely, or they are choosing to focus their attention on irrelevant details. Kind of like worrying about the condition of your windshield wipers when your transmission just bottomed out of your vehicle.

Thank you for contributing your ideas and opinions in this thread, and Namaste.

Originally posted by Tgautier13


You misunderstood the premise. Every scientist takes their prejudice into every experiment. The scientist is never separated from the experiment, and as such, there is no 'outside, agreeable reality' that you speak of. This has been all but proven with Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle, however groups such as Buddhists and Platonic realists have argued this idea for centuries.

Great reply, thanks I dont think i misunderstood your premise though. An example of 'outside agreeable reality would be me throwing a rock at a blind person. Even though they may not see it, they'll know it exists when it hits them on the head ! The uncertainty principle only deals with very small chunks of energy (not rocks) and i think most scientists put this down our limitations of measurement at this level (our apparatus effect the experiment) rather than believing that that is how the universe actually works.

Electrons operate as far as we know as wave/particle dualities. An electron will take on every possible measurement at the same instant if there is no observer; once an observer (scientist) is included in the model then and only then does the electron act as a true particle, thus giving one the illusion of reality.

Again, they appear 'as if' they are both particle and wave, this doesnt make it so and ideas of, for example, a particle following a 4 dimensional spiral through time and thus 'appearing' to be in more than one location at the same time, have been put forward. (BTW i got the 'as if' from buddhism)

Quantum theory does not deal with the probability of an electron being in a certain location. Quantum theory, among many other things, deals with the notion that electrons operate under every single mathematical principle possible at once until an observer is included. As such in wave form electrons exist everywhere at every instant. Understanding this I am quite confused by your last sentence in the above paragraph. What part of Quantum Mechanics gave you the idea that everyone experiences the same objective reality? I only ask this because from my research Quantum theory has come to the exact opposite conclusion.

Not EVERY principle and not EVERY location, every POSSIBLE location as stipulated by Bohrs wave equations. I never said quantum mechanics appeared to be objective, i said some scientific experiments could be objective. Quantum mechanics may be objective in the future when we get better at it

Absolutely, I agree. However, the Multiverse Theory does indeed exist within modern String Theory, which happens to be the theory most modern Quantum and Nuclear physicists hold. As such within a 'scientific view' this model of 'infinite parallel realities' has to be taken quite seriously.

On this subject, I would say the only thing that exists outside of our own perceived reality is mathematics, but that is a discussion for another time and another thread.

I thought 'M' theory was the biggy now ? (the string theories didnt agree and 'M' theory tied them together, getting rid of lots and lots of multiverse)Then of course you have Lisi's E8 which is gaining a lot of support

The Timewave was never intended to be used as a predictor of events. It measures novelty and habit within consciousness. I'm not sure if some past or present researchers in these threads or elsewhere have given you a false idea as to how the Timewave is to be used, but I can assure you this is not its function. That's why I might get slightly irritated when I see someone just list a date on the Timewave then just spout of a list of disasters or events that are possible to happen on that date. They are missing the premise entirely, or they are choosing to focus their attention on irrelevant details. Kind of like worrying about the condition of your windshield wipers when your transmission just bottomed out of your vehicle.

I understand where you are coming from here and i dont think it would be productive to argue the point other than to say that timewave and the theories it sprang from or have been linked to, i-ching and the mayan calander, were meant as predictive tools.....to some extent. The mayan calander especially is a measuring of heavenly events.

I guess thats what we are trying to find out on this thread, after all it's still the same vehicle we are all sharing.

Namaste also

Originally posted by Evasius

With each moment that passes, our possible futures are dwindling away - that is, either dissolving or in fact merging into eventually one timeline of experience. Right now we still have a myriad of options, though fewer than yesterday and a great many more than we'll have next week, month, or year. So make the most of Now.

Thats an interesting statement, do you mean from our own human perspective that, as time passes, or the 'now' evolves, we get closer to death and therefore our paths dwindle ? Or did you mean it on a more universal scale as in the universe evolves towards a balanced and static form ?

Edit

I'm trying to get a handle on what you mean by timelines, especially the dissolving and merging parts. In some respects i kinda disagree with your statement and think that as the now progresses we have more and more options, like flying into the mandlebrot set, increasing complexity etc. Certainly from my human perspective it appears as though the complexity of life is on the increase as life learns (through evolution) to adapt to more environments and information/technology/communication branches out.

Then on another level i agree, like with the internet for example we are becoming more homogeneous in the information we all share.

Another thought, maybe at the moment of the big bang there were far more timelines because less potentials had become manifest, or maybe all possiblities occured simulteaneously.

[edit on 20-7-2010 by Wobbly Anomaly]

reply to post by Tgautier13


Well, I do not only focus on dates and possible events. I know what Novelty is, and I also focus on changes ( indeed shifts of focusing on a certain issue ) in my personal life.
Timewave is not only global events, it is also about the whole life of everybody in here.
And I know that it also agrees with astrology and music.
See? I'm focusing on the whole of this subject.

Originally posted by Tgautier13
Evasius do you use DosBox? I am more then willing to take on an intense look into the Sheliak set however I am having troubles getting the Timewave program to run on Windows Vista Home Premium. I just have to toy around with DosBox I guess and find the right directories. I was just wondering if you use any other program to run the Timewave.

Tgautier, you've been a major contributor since early on in this thread, and you're obviously aware of McKenna and the factors contributing to the development of the theory and software, so yes, I would be happy to have your assistance in presenting the data. Thank you for offering.

DosBox sounds like the ideal tool for running a DOS program with Vista. I personally have XP which runs both 4.03 and V7, no problem. I haven't played around with that program though so I can't provide much input. Currently my PC's packed away (we're in the middle of a move, garage sale preparation, etc), and the study area is now the storage area. I'm using my work computer during office hours and an Iphone to upload posts after office hours, so conditions are not immediately conducive for DOS Timewave operations. I'm presently relying on the over 365 screenshots I took for the TWZ 2010 video, which of course uses the Kelley data.

I'll look into the DosBox program from here at work, but a hands-on approach will actually have to wait a few weeks.

Thanks again for your offer. I'll take you up on that. And as for the avatar request, don't worry about that - that was meant for someone with no avatar. Your's is unique and represents Swarm Theory or the complex system that is the behavior of an intelligent collective, which actually must also be represented by the Timewave to some degree.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6c737c86de3c.jpg[/atsimg]

Caption: Mass Escape - A peregrine falcon on the attack forces a flock of starlings to take evasive action, moving together as one. source

Once we get the DOS thing settled we're good to go.

[edit on 20/7/10 by Evasius]

reply to post by Wobbly Anomaly

Thats an interesting statement, do you mean from our own human perspective that, as time passes, or the 'now' evolves, we get closer to death and therefore our paths dwindle ? Or did you mean it on a more universal scale as in the universe evolves towards a balanced and static form ?

The following is indeed speculation, but is an idea I hold in high regard given my research into the timewave and my own personal experience of ‘time’ and reality.

By ‘timelines’ I am referring to paths of possibility involving humanity on both the individual and collective level. There is no time. There are no lines. In fact by path, I mean universe, though but for the purpose of this explanation of increasingly compressed experience let’s use ‘path’ given our journey from yesterday towards tomorrow feels particularly linear to most people.

These specific paths of possibility evolve from a continual merging and overlapping of an infinite and distinctly separate number of universes. The perception of continuity from universe to universe is natural, much like our perception of a continual flow between the frames comprising a motion picture. A conscious process similar the concept of persistence of vision joins one experienced universe to another. What I visualize is a string of donuts, the string being the path, the donuts being each universe. Yummy. And instead of just one big collective string and one set of donuts, I visualize their being strings representing every person (and maybe some animals) on the planet, each with their own set of donuts - so no one goes hungry, experientially speaking.

The Timewave as I see it (relating to humanity’s experience) is that it’s a predetermined path of novelty giving the experiencer(s) the free will to create their reality along a path of set decision points. Zero marks the final decision and the birth of a completely new experience.

What we perceive to be past and future already exist somewhere in some universe, all that is exists is Now. So zero point already exists somewhere. That means that anyone with the ability of tapping into some higher consciousness via meditation, psychedelics (McKenna), etc. would see this moment in time approaching well in advance. Considering that the predetermined Timewave path is reflected in the knowledge I-Ching (Book of Changes), the novelty values signify our changing perception of a single now moment which is shifting from universe to universe, or ‘option to option.’

As the graph descends toward zero, experience is compressed (everyone's 'string of donuts' merge together further and further) due to our increasing awareness of more stuff in the Now (thanks to the media, technology – which are both themselves increasing along a path paralleling our experience). So likewise the ‘frame rate’ between experienced universes accelerates. One would think that the more we have access to right now means the more options we have right now. NO. Given the embedded threshold of adaptability to change within the human brain, little choices congeal into macro decisions bringing with them an expanded result and greater responsibility. Now simple choices can affect more people. The collective future is now being settled upon via huge decisions carried out by the click of a mouse.

As we approach zero we become a more cohesive being made up of a lot of people thinking similarly, behaving similarly, and being affected similarly. We are approaching a point where we become so cohesive that we become solidified, frozen and unable to make any choices because we’ve backed ourselves into this specific corner as a result of all prior decisions.

A metaphor would be, consider the Hiroshima bombing – at that moment planet Earth gazed into Medusa’s eyes, and it’s taken us 67 years for us to turn to stone.

Then on another level i agree, like with the internet for example we are becoming more homogeneous in the information we all share.

As stated above, that is exactly my point. The transition to a truly global civilization requires for the most part an homogeneous collective entity. In order to have the society we desire, we must first evaluate the connections and compounding decisions that are with each passing moment removing further choice and deciding upon a specific outcome.

[edit on 21/7/10 by Evasius]

reply to post by Evasius

Tell me E,.. what would be your opinion of our next 2 year future..
opinion mind you ..not prediction..

reply to post by Lil Drummerboy


The post directly above your's should give you some idea - crazy, and approaching levels of craziness we are all incapable of processing together as a species. Cognitive adaptability has it's limits I'm afraid, and the absolute onslaught of information and connectivity filling our lives is progressively leaving us in the dark rather than ushering towards the light. That's why it's absolutely crucial for us all individually to just take a moment and have a look at these decisions (and the reasoning behind them - or lack thereof), and to use the expanded affect of small choices and actions to the benefit of humanity.

So to answer your question - accelerating complexity and chaos.

[edit on 21/7/10 by Evasius]

Question...

I've been wondering this for years, just never asked; what says the timewave's endpoint is 12/21/2012? Was that just the date Terrance picked? The endpoint is the important part, but it's actually the starting point. All the rest of the timewave is extrapolated backwards from there. What if its end/start point is some other day?

Today I watched an episode of a tv show on tv about some people repeating the same day over and over...
The sentence that made me think was " The horse can't get out from the labirinth... ".
Evasius lately was talking about the very few choices we have, fewer every time we enter a novelty dip...

I don't know what's going to happen at zero date, but maybe all timelines will merge to a point where no timeline can be divided from another...???Does this makes sense to you guys?
The union of all possible timelines? The most chaotic situation that one can think about...

Most importantly...Is the whole Timewave the labirinth and point zero the gate to escape it?

[edit on 21-7-2010 by Zagari]