Timewave Zero - Countdown to Transition

reply to post by xxshadowfaxx


I have my hands on my hair.
So you think the way the graphs are formed is completely casual?
So, I understand you don't have the entire information about it.

NOTHING ABOUT TIMEWAVE ZERO WAS EVER CASUAL.

Its all math...Every single line of that graph is a result of mathematical processes.

Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
If i were to create my own graph, give it random up and down lines, it too would be pointing out things happening in the world today.So if the red graph is mathematically correct, then why do we bother having any of the others?

Graphs like this point out the biggest novelty's and thus can only be measured after a length of time. The day of Deepwater was big news, but we had more oil spills in the world. That day didn't change the world so much, it is/was the aftermath that did.

If you draw out you're own map, you'll hit somethings right, like a small earthquake somewhere, a sinking oil tanker perhaps. But to have a graph point out the biggest changes in history is stunning.

On the other hand, it could be just a some-spaced-out-scientist-on-'___' who thought of it. But even that wouldn't make it totally unbelievable.

I am not saying that I don't respect this theory. I just think that anyone good at math can make their own graph...Since there is no official starting point of the graph, you can start at any point in history and graph it out, and keep that graph going into the future, when I go to the timewave calculator on the net....I have checked out the different graphs, some go up when the other goes down, some are flat when others aren't, some have major peaks where others don't....Besides I don't necessarily believe that the future is already written. This world changes fast, there are novel events quite often, especialy in this day an age, seeing as we are screwing up the planet in ways it shouldn't be screwed with. So to believe in timewave, is to believe that the future is out of our control, that the ending has already been written.

Originally posted by Zagari

Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
I'm starting to think this timewave theory is crap.

There is a different graph, for everything.... If there isn't a dip in novelty today on one graph, its on another, so basically any major event that happens, is most likely going to have a graph that prove it to be true....What the hell? I could make my own graph, and sure enough sooner or later it'll get lucky. Honestly, if this theory was accurate, there would be one graph, and it would be right most, or all of the time. So come on, this is just silly.

[edit on 22-6-2010 by xxshadowfaxx]

Only one is mathematecally precise. Its the red one.

Is this the adjusted graph (the red one) ? do you have a graphic of the red one that covers, say, the last 10 years so we can see how these dips line up with major events ?

Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
t....Besides I don't necessarily believe that the future is already written. This world changes fast, there are novel events quite often

Some parts of history were pre-determined, sunrises, seasonal weather, tides, migration etc, etc. Anything really that relies on the movement of the planet (and solar system and galaxy). What timewave seems to be attemting is to say that 'many' events we are concious of are as pre- determined as the changing of the seasons.

Now its just a matter of proving or disproving it.

I was looking at the Timewave and noticed a familiar pattern.
It was one of many interesting discoveries that I had last night ,
some of which I've decided to share now with all of you.

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At first glance it might not seem like anything interesting.

But when I began examining it more closely I remembered this ;



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Now I decided to follow the pattern and highlight it ,
so as to determine if it was a resonance of the final years.



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Looks certainly as if there was a mini zero point there.

This gives a good view of what could possibly happen in 2012 ,
if the Timewave would actually just go on from there
beyond the designated zero point this graph was given..

...then again ,maybe the waves afterward just go straight down?

Not to mention that the end date of the timewave, was altered by mckenna, when he realized that all the other end dates seemed to be around dec 21st 2012...... Didn't he originally end the timewave on october 28th 2011? This is my point.... it seems to me like it's just all made up and every single time there is an event, its always on the graph, because the graph isn't a straight line, its always bumpy, so theres little room for error. I'm just not seeing anything at all that proves that these graphs are telling us something. If someone could say, a specific day in the future, and tell me what is going to happen, and it actually does happen, then i'd believe it.

Originally posted by Zagari
reply to post by xxshadowfaxx

 

I have my hands on my hair.
So you think the way the graphs are formed is completely casual?
So, I understand you don't have the entire information about it.

NOTHING ABOUT TIMEWAVE ZERO WAS EVER CASUAL.

Its all math...Every single line of that graph is a result of mathematical processes.

You were right on your June 23rd date. I remember you saying what the possibilities were. I think you gave the following:

- Terror attack
- China or USA dam collapse with huge consequences
- Oil crisis gets worst
- Nuclear accident

Well. The oil well did get worse today. Kinda like a dam collapse maybe? No, the well cap didn't hold all the oil in but neither does a dam.

ga.water.usgs.gov...

Congrats again! I think this is a hit.

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There were miscalculations with the Timewave at first. Remember this is a giant mathematical algorithm, developed by an ethnobotanist. There were errors in the original problem which a mathematician by the name of John Sheliak was able to correct.

"I owe a real debt of gratitude to both Watkins and John Sheliak, but especially John. His work now makes explicit every stage in the construction of the timewave, any interested mathematician can now satisfy him or herself as to the precise details of the construction of the timewave. What is exciting to me and what makes me very confident of the new formulation is the fact that we are now getting a better fit of the Novelty graphs to historical data in a number of key areas where before, with the old version, we had some problems. Just to mention two examples. The new wave, which we are calling Timewave 1, to distinguish it from Timewave 0, the new wave gives a much better picture of the ebb and flow of Novelty during the Second World War and during the century of the birth of Islam, than did the old wave. These are exciting times for Novelty Theory. I am happy to admit my error in the construction of the wave. Novelty Theory can now mature into a genuine intellectual discipline in which we can hope to see the contributions made by many people exploring the field. Many exciting discoveries now lie ahead."

Here is the direct source link to the math done, for the hardcore: www.levity.com...

June 23.. How about the earthquake that rumbled in Canada? Near where the G8 and G20 are being held too. That will give them something to talk about besides the usual stuff.

www.abovetopsecret.com... -possible volcano from the oil spill?

www.abovetopsecret.com... -Iran just declared war I believe.

Zagari I think you might be on to something about that Volcano. But not sure yet with that oil spill.

guys check this link Gulf's evolution makes the shakes

i think the 5.0 earthquake near Ontario-Canada, and the gulf oil spill are connected. This geologist Jack Reed believes the gulf was and IS tectonically active, and it has major influence on the New Madrid plate.


this gulf oil spill is getting worse by the minute, i do not claim to know what is going to happen, but i do think that like in a synchronicity, two or more events apparently unrelated all of a suden can be linked in a way that previously couldn't be seen. And as some of you guys allready may have noticed, synchronicitys are happening faster and faster so...who knows.

time will tell

Originally posted by Singularitarian


guys check this link Gulf's evolution makes the shakes

i think the 5.0 earthquake near Ontario-Canada, and the gulf oil spill are connected. This geologist Jack Reed believes the gulf was and IS tectonically active, and it has major influence on the New Madrid plate.


this gulf oil spill is getting worse by the minute, i do not claim to know what is going to happen, but i do think that like in a synchronicity, two or more events apparently unrelated all of a suden can be linked in a way that previously couldn't be seen. And as some of you guys allready may have noticed, synchronicitys are happening faster and faster so...who knows.

time will tell

Good point.

Syncronicity 'seems' to have a lot to do with our concious learning experience and it may well turn out that the graph is showing us how and when incidents are connected. That might explain why we cant see events when the graph indicates a dip and why we cant see dips sometimes when a major event occurs. We are looking at the event rather than the connections.

The McChrystal row was/is it. The dip on the Sheliak set regarding June 22/June 23. The dip was never that huge anyway. May 31 (flotilla attack) was more important than June 22.

Let's wait for the July 9 peak and dip now. Because that is HUGE.

[edit on 25-6-2010 by 2008111]

Originally posted by 2008111
The McChrystal row was/is it. The dip on the Sheliak set regarding June 22/June 23. The dip was never that huge anyway. May 31 (flotilla attack) was more important than June 22.

Let's wait for the July 9 peak and dip now. Because that is HUGE.

[edit on 25-6-2010 by 2008111]

I though zagari had shifted the timewave so that the dip was significant ? It was either shifted 1 or 7 months, but i didnt quite understand by how much.

YES. 2010 IS THE YEAR.
But 2012 is too.

Even with Timewave Correction theory we can clearly see that the END DATE EVENT is present both in 2010 and in 2012, there are TWO OF THEM.

The amount of sinchronicities I met in my personal life this year is mind boggling.
Whenever I meet a person I know why is that precise person.
There are no coincidences ever. All is connected.

Global consciousness is truth.
Our reality is what we think it is. We can determine reality with thoughts.
That's what I understood when for weeks in April, before my friend died at 20 at the end of that month, I remember being watching you tube videos of River Phoenix and Brad Renfro tributes ( both died in their 20s ) and maybe that thinking made me experience the death of my friend...
Can you get it? Maybe we all live in our personal view of reality...
Or maybe its a example of previous knowledge, subconscious knowledge of what was coming.

The event of April 25 changed the way I see life and connection to all things.
March 18 was his birthday. That day in 2010, I experienced a series of strange events that made me aware of something big. I called it the weirdest day of my recent life.
His conception date was June 26. The eclipse's day. I know another person that died in March whose conception date is June 26.
June 26...Sometimes eclipses take away dear people.

I also experienced some events like whenever I meet a person called witha certain name and makes to me a certain impression, suddenly EVERYONE new is called with same name...
Or, when I got my first job this month and next day every person I know has just got a job...When the other week our conversations were about something else entirely...

Can you understand? It seems reality is a different thing for everybody...And you can determine what's coming...

And than there are two theories of mine, retrocausality ( our feelings toward a certain topic seems to be echoes of future events that arrive to influence the past ) and time loop.
Time loop. This year is definitely the major year for time loop theory.

Do you have a diary with written dates of 2007- 2010? Because I have one and I noticed that similar events happen in 2010 that are like...Repetitions of past events in 2008...

For example, on March 19 2008 I met a person which later would have become significant for me because of very important dreams.
( guess what, he has same name of the friend whose birthday was March 18 and died at 20 )
I knew him better on April 9.
I never knew he had a brother until this year.
In fact, on March 19 2010 at same time of day there was a certain person always in front of me while I was talking to some friends, in a luna park.
On April 8 I look on facebook and discover, oh look he has a brother.
We don't talk.
Next day I was thinking " I would like to talk to him someday, to know him ". A second after I hear someone calling me.
" Hey, you ". I turn my head and wow, its him!!!

They are significant to me because I'm known by my friends as the one whose dreams come true, and I had dreams about those 2 people that make me think they will eventually become important to me this year.

But what's amazing is the time loop thing. I've known them on same days.
I didn't say all of what happened, anyway, there is more beyond those 2 days.

Another example is the one when on June 23 2007 I've known a certain person in a summer campus and on June 23 2010 I've known a certain other person in a summer campus.
Well, the first one became like a brother to me, this one who knows.
But this makes me think about my life.

I looked to my friends and said to myself...Wow, there are connections between people.
There are friends of mine which don't know each other though they practically show same kind of behavior and interests, like there is a repetition cycle not only for historical events but also for personal events and friendships.

Now, tell me, for what's concerns your personal life, does 2010 recalls 2008? Does it?
And 2009? Can you get what I'm trying to say?

Now, do you think is just the chance that makes you meet certain people? Have you looked at conception dates, birthdays, names,surnames, family names, behavior, personal events that somehow connect this person with you or someone in your family?

For example, recently I met a person and his sister, a new friend, that:

- Has same name of the last new best friend I got in late 2009
- His sister's conception date is my birthday
- His mother has same name of mine, his father has same name of my mom's brother
- His best friend's name is the same of the friend of mine who died at 20
- His family name starts with that same name
- His sister's birthday is very near to the day of the saint called like that friend of mine who died
- His sister's conception date is birthday of that friend who died
- Guess when I knew her? Yes, very near this friend's conception date

I think the April 25 event has somehow ended up to influence strongly my reality and all the connection in its future.
And now is determining which people I will meet.

So, what can we understand from this?
The Oil Spill disaster. Now, from now on, whenever we will experience something that concerns oil we will think of Deepwater disaster.
The event happened so very near to the event that changed my persona life.
I pin pointed that date as one of the most novel days of Timewave Zero graph, the corrected one.

Novelty in my life went sky high during April end and beginning of May. Because of my friend's death I experienced a reunion of people and met a person who was a past best friend of mine that never in a millennia I would think she would return in my life but she did.

What about June 23? Well, I knew a important person in a better way, I got my first job and a whole group of people reshaped the picture of my life, just like at the beginning , in April.

June 23...June 23 2008, I was in a pool park and was one of the best days ever in my life...Knowing better and enjoying friendship with a friend who is like a brother to me...
June 23 2010...I was in a different pool park enjoying my time with a new friend that I met only days before...
And a woman I know at a certain points asks us " Are you two brothers? You seem like it is "
Have you experienced the same thing? Some novel event in your personal life both in April's end and near June 23 ?



[edit on 26-6-2010 by Zagari

[edit on 26-6-2010 by Zagari]

Okay, its been a while since I have posted but I have been looking at the timewave zero stuff and have a prediction. Using the software from the link provided in this thread I see a peak on July 11 and a bottom on August 11. Now, I used the King Wen - Kelley, King Wen - Watkins, and Huang Ti, which all agreed on these events. These 3 also agreed on some events that had to do with war or soldiers from the past so it makes sense that these graphs would predict other similar events.

So, my prediction is that there will be an official and public evacuation or martial law of the Gulf Coast that will be announced on July 11. I don't know how it will be received but it will last until August 11 when everyones opinion will change. Either we will accept and call it necessary or it will be the beginning of far worse things to come.

Anyway, thats my thought on this we will have to wait and see. If I were to guess and the initial prediction is correct I would say evac from New Orleans all the way to Pensacola, possibly Tallahassee.

Lets hope I am incorrect because they will have to put a big closed sign in front of the highways into Florida next year if they do that. Florida is already on the verge of bankruptcy and that would be 100% devastating to them.

[edit on 27-6-2010 by memarf1]

reply to post by Mystic Technician


JUNE 22 ANOTHER MINI ZERO POINT?
CONVERGENCE OF SINCHRONICITIES?

Well, that would explain a lot, also about my correction theory and major convergence on June 23 2010...

Well, on June 22 2010 I officially knew better a person that to my opinion will become very very very important for my life.
The most interesting thing is that when I knew him I met a lot of sinchronicities that made me think automatically to a convergence/singularity...

There is no way me meeting him was casual at all...Around our meeting and our lives there are super stunning sinchronicities and false coincidences...

Wow, so this might be because on this point it was supposed to happen?

Man, my life will change in the blink of an eye soon...

Its days that I think...



[edit on 28-6-2010 by Zagari]

If this is true, than the whole day of June 22 2010 contained information about 2008- 2012 graphs...
The whole repetition in a day...So, this is why that day was so fundamental to me...

Take note of every event in your life on June 22, July 7-9-11, November 14 because it may contain some clue about 2010- 2012 YOUR FUTURE.

reply to post by memarf1


I don't think full scale evacuations are a possibility, but even the mainstream discussion of them would be mindbending, so it could correlate with your graphs. You also mentioned in another post that you thought webbot predicted the evacuees from the South could be turned back. July 11th head North? August 11th head back, or stop the mass migration?

Now, supposedly BP has a new top hat plan to enact around mid-July, and supposedly the relief wells will make it or break it in late July to early August. So, all things considered, your Timewave, Webbot, BP press releases, Zagaris shifted graphs, this will be the most interesting end to a summer that Florida has ever seen!!!!