Timewave Zero - Countdown to Transition

Anyway, since this afternoon, synchronicities sky-rocketed. This is one of my most synhcronicistical days ever in my life.
It seems all is connected and converged.

Do you remember what Evasius said about November 1 2010 point?

Originally posted by Zagari
reply to post by xweaponx

 

If you think this was nonsense, OBVIOUSLY, as everyone expert in this theory understands, you didn't even care to read carefully this thread.
What about the eleven dates that were pin - pointed correctly? Like for example, June 25 2009 and the economic collapse 2008???

I can be a bit more skeptic now but I don't forget when Timewave has been right.

Dude, search Timewave Zero 2010 you tube and tell me Timewave was wrong until October 21 2010...
Do that, tell me. I'm waiting to see your reply, because I want a explanation from you, supposed hoaxes expert.

I have read your post, But my point is that your having a VERY hard time since timewave zero was in the 70's. How many predictions have came true from 1970 to now? I want to know the "truth" value. Because I honestly don't see this think having any impact or warning of 2012 when most of it's "times, dates, years" have been off. So what makes it warning us?

Originally posted by Zagari
This is one of my most synhcronicistical days ever

Me too zagari, i started writing about it on my blog here (its going to take me a while to finish it though.....)

huujuu.blogspot.com...

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Everything came true since the 1970s. You have to understand that the graph pin points dates of ALL history...
I made many and many replies trying to explain how, for example 1969 July 20 and April 26 1989 were spot on, almost exactly precise...

And you have to understand, as many others, that probably November is only the beginning. The lowest novelty point comes January 17 2011.

You really cannot say anything until we come to see if on that January's day something big happens.

Most of you guys assume, believe, you know all about this theory, but you actually don't know enough to say its debunked. Its not.
Not totally, at least.

As you can notice, I'm not replying too much now on this thread because I have to wait, to see what happens in January.

And, yes, maybe on October 21- 23 nothing relevant, special, significant happened, at least not in France, but I noticed a lot of very interesting events since October 26 2010 to October 31 2010.

Nobody of you guys know the future. So nobody of you can be so sure that nothing will happen to laugh at this theory.

We are not wasting time. We are evaluating possibilities.

Its all about collective conscience, connection between masses of people, global focus on a certain issue, event...

I can only say what I " believe " it may happen, that could agree with what written above:

- Major discovery that changes how we think about nature, universe, the usual way we think about teological, spiritual issues, probably...

- A global disaster, people would " have to " be together and cooperate to the survival of humanity

- The realization of the true, massive, unimaginable economic problem that affects this world, with the greatest economic collapse in history, suddenly, everybody lives like in the Third World. The Second and First World would disappear overnight. It can happen.

- Solar issues affect world wide web, connectivity through the internet is lowered to almost zero...

- Remember that is almost a zero point. So maybe another 1945 August nuclear bombing, but in the Usa. Because in my opinion, most individuals don't truly realize that even Usa cities can be annihilated by nukes.
But this may not be enough novel.

Originally posted by Zagari
Anyway, since this afternoon, synchronicities sky-rocketed. This is one of my most synhcronicistical days ever in my life.
It seems all is connected and converged.

Do you remember what Evasius said about November 1 2010 point?

Certainly you did. Our beliefs shape our perceptions of reality. I think this is all bunk now, but you are free to choose what you will believe in. I remember the TMZ getting a lot of misses last year. I also remember the web-bot piggy backing off supposed big hit dates that the TMZ was predicting. They never happened. These are just the byproducts of a semi-brilliant madman, and a bunch of people who really, really, really wish it were so .. well this is all just my opinion. If something big happens in the next couple of weeks, perhaps I'm wrong. Oh wait, but maybe we have to wait until January.



..and the predictions will continue on towards infinity...

Yes. You are right, daddy. We are delusional wishfull children that wait for Santa Claus.
Yes, be so arrogant and superior.
It seems skeptics always know best, always know what is going to happen.

You do know that you are wishing that nothing happens, so your mind doesn't expect anything and you lose much of the amazing world of synchronicity because you expect that your life will go on normally, yes? XD

Everybody is blind, deaf in their own way.

Actually, you are influencing yourself with your disbelief just as much as we delusional children are trying to catch a synchronicistical experience.

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No surprise. Nov. 1, 2010 is 6x9, afterall.

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You don't seem to understand.

Why do you want something to happen? The only thing that is going to happen, in signifigance, is going to be something bad... World war 3, stock market/economy crash, false flag terrorist attack..... Earthquake, volcano, metoer impact.... Global Warming, solar flare..... Any dip in the timewave, if timewave is accurate to any degree at all.... is most likely something bad. Sure good things happened in the past, moon landing etc.... But look at the world today... we're a lot closer to the brink of disaster, than we are to discovery. Even if we discover aliens exist, that will be a bad thing, because even if they aren't hostile, it will still cause panic and change our lives. So you keep predicting end of the world, or disasters.... Are you wishing for these things to come true? Why not just go and off yourself now, or do you enjoy hearing and watching other people suffer?

I am a skeptic, for a number of reasons. the first reason being, I really hope none of its true so no one gets hurt. The second reason being, logic.... Timewave is pretty far out there. For it to be accurate, that would be very creepy, seeing as it would mean that none of us, are in control of our own lives. If timewave is accurate, then there are no surprises for humanity. We are on a set path, and it will go where it goes and theres nothing we can do about it. So I am a skeptic, because I like to believe that I can live my own life, and make my own choices, and not worry about something coming out of the blue and ruining that.

So yes, I would certainly like to be right, in saying timewave is false, and failed predictions. And I certainly hope that in the future, it is wrong everytime. Because I really don't need to hear about another haiti, where 100,000 people died, and I certainly don't want to lose anyone I know in some disaster. Or hear about people going bankrupt and having to change their lifestyles.

So tell me, why do you want timewave to be right so badly?

Originally posted by Zagari

You do know that you are wishing that nothing happens, so your mind doesn't expect anything and you lose much of the amazing world of synchronicity because you expect that your life will go on normally, yes? XD

Not in the least. What will be will be, brother. I gave TWZ a chance just like many other people did... it didn't pan out. Give it up, else you're ... well what's that when you keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect different results?!

Your synchronicities are your own insanity. Get over yourself!

This whole Timewave Zero thing fascinates me and concerns me at the same time.

Because if a major event happens around this mid Novemeber timeframe, than it certainly gives credence to the whole 2012 thing as well since I believe that's when TMZ ends??

Deep down I'm wondering if Terrence McKenna was just another stoned hippie that was tripping on some really good acid when he came up with this thing...

Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx

I am a skeptic, for a number of reasons. the first reason being, I really hope none of its true so no one gets hurt.

Incredible!!!

So, you never minded the TRUTH, just your own personal wishes

The second reason being, logic.... Timewave is pretty far out there. For it to be accurate, that would be very creepy, seeing as it would mean that none of us, are in control of our own lives.

The dialectic about human will vs human destiny is quite old and beyond the expectations of this thread. Even more, who cares if is creepy or sad?? Reality is reality and better deal with it than with fantasies.
Where is the logic in your wishes??

I really don't need to hear about another haiti, where 100,000 people died, and I certainly don't want to lose anyone I know in some disaster. Or hear about people going bankrupt and having to change their lifestyles.

So tell me, why do you want timewave to be right so badly?

@xxshadowfaxx: Every death is certain: Your death and Mine. Bad times are certain. World will fall upon us and just because we close our eyes it will not end.
Please, stop deceiving yourself. If you just froze with your wishes, the world will run over you. You are being quite irrational.... where is the logic??? where is the will to confront the world and not only to survive it but to enjoy it??

TWZ is a theory that model certain reality aspect. And you are not even close to debunk it in terms of statistical inference!!!! You are only arguing about certain TMZ interpretation.... and now it turns out you just have fear????

Is not that we wish for more disasters. Is that to find that TWZ (or something like it) do in fact exists, then we would make a huge advance in our understanding of the universe.

Originally posted by unityemissions
Not in the least. What will be will be, brother. I gave TWZ a chance just like many other people did... it didn't pan out. Give it up, else you're ... well what's that when you keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect different results?!

I liked that phrase until I got to deal with quantum physics...

There was a time when everybody though that the Ether was necessarily a real 'thing' .... but then the Michelson-Morley experiment prove it to be false... since then, you are crazy for believing in the Ether, even when that experiment only proved wrong one Ether theory...

So, you gave a chance to TWZ and it didn't turn out as you expected?

Sorry but I do not think you (or Zagari) got what TWZ is really saying. Why is that the peaks and dips shall state specific events?? or even more, public well know events?

When we look to the evolution of reality in general, is clear we are going to some kind of singularity:
-knowledge accumulation
-technology advancement
-cultural development
-economy evolution

Is not clear the timing, the rhythm, the exact dates... but the spiral change is just there. I see that TMZ has still something to say.

Your synchronicities are your own insanity. Get over yourself!

Insanity??? Insanity is to be so certain you completely understand reality. It doesn't seem like you are taking into account how our mind works... or can you prove that all coincidences are statistically speaking... just coincidences?

Originally posted by oshdra

Originally posted by unityemissions
Not in the least. What will be will be, brother. I gave TWZ a chance just like many other people did... it didn't pan out. Give it up, else you're ... well what's that when you keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect different results?!

I liked that phrase until I got to deal with quantum physics...

So sorry you're one of the millions of others who seem to misinterpret quantum mechanics...

Originally posted by oshdra
There was a time when everybody though that the Ether was necessarily a real 'thing' .... but then the Michelson-Morley experiment prove it to be false... since then, you are crazy for believing in the Ether, even when that experiment only proved wrong one Ether theory...

So, you gave a chance to TWZ and it didn't turn out as you expected?

It didn't turn out to be as Mr. Mckinney stated.

Originally posted by oshdra
Sorry but I do not think you (or Zagari) got what TWZ is really saying. Why is that the peaks and dips shall state specific events?? or even more, public well know events?

Why is it that you think I interpret it as such? The broader you take it to possibly mean, the less it has any real value. Accepting this, I merely think of it as, MEH...

Originally posted by oshdra
When we look to the evolution of reality in general, is clear we are going to some kind of singularity:
-knowledge accumulation
-technology advancement
-cultural development
-economy evolution

Agreed. But don't leave out the negatives either. There's balance in everything, no?

Originally posted by oshdra
Is not clear the timing, the rhythm, the exact dates... but the spiral change is just there. I see that TMZ has still something to say.

Your synchronicities are your own insanity. Get over yourself!

Insanity??? Insanity is to be so certain you completely understand reality. It doesn't seem like you are taking into account how our mind works... or can you prove that all coincidences are statistically speaking... just coincidences?

What? No, sanity is to be certain that your grasp of reality is better than the extreme weirdo who keeps on spouting out jargon that has no backing, whatsoever. You know how the mind works now, eh? I don't. Never claimed to. I just know that nobody has a clear understanding of this. What I can prove to myself based on my limited experiences is that the vast majority of people who claim to be experiencing synchronicities within their coincidences are going through a psychotic phase. Not to say that this may not end up being beneficial in the long run, but they're definitely deluded and compensating for some sort of emotional... trauma that's happened/going on in their lives. It's happened to myself and numerous other friends I've encountered in the past, and most will readily tell you that at that point in their lives they were psychotic. Screw statistics, the human experience transcends statistical probability, but that has nothing to do with these magical beliefs, in fact it goes far to disprove them.

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Don't call synchronicities insane things!!! You don't even know what this is? You are a complete fool! No other comment made me get this angrily nervous before.
Is this what you think about synchronicities? THIS? What kind of """"" are you???

Man, those people are so stubborn. There cannot be any discussion. Or you accept their scepticism or you are labeled crazy.

You are not in my body. You cannot know my experience. YOU DON'T KNOW.

I prefere my supposed insanity to this kind of scepticism. At least I enjoy a weird significant experience that has value in my life, even for just a moment.


There are some things you guys should change in your attitude. This theory is useless for you guys, because until you'll change your way of thinking to consider another possibility, you won't realize anything.

I don't claim anymore that this theory is completely right. It may have some flaws. But for goodness sake, January 2011 is noy even COMING, YET!
After January 18 2011 you will be free to say whatever you want to say because I will leave this thread, because this thread has become so stupid...

I have enough of people like you.
You are on the internet only to label people as insane because they consider things differently from you.

I have something to say, I'm proud to be insane, if this means not to be a CLOSED-MIND skeptic.

Those who close the doors of their mind won't learn anything more than what is written in science books. But they may forget that sometimes even science book have to be updated, after new discoveries.

I'm so fed up that I could leave this idiotic thread right now. Its just a waste of my time.

Originally posted by Zagari
But for goodness sake, January 2011 is noy even COMING, YET!
After January 18 2011 you will be free to say whatever you want to say because I will leave this thread, because this thread has become so stupid...

I have a feeling you will leave this thread for other reasons...

You guys are free to believe what you will.

I will leave you to your beliefs.

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I will be clear with you just now. This replie of you was completely idiotic.
No coincidences exist, they aren't real, because for everything there is a reason.

You have to get in your head that you are labelling insane every people that thinks differently from you.

No, guys, I won't be here anymore if people of this kind are here too.
No, guys, don't make me deal with people that think coincidences are real and just coincidences, dreams are just dreams and you should forget them, synchronicities are psychotic rants...

Man, listen, I don't go on because I may say some word you don't like.

To me, thinking that coincidences are not casual is common sense, is obvious. To me, every little synchronicity is special, my friends think like me and we are not labeled insane.
I don't think you can really know if my 1 minute long experience was insane or not.

I didn't have a vision, I didn't shout about aliens assaulting me all of a sudden. I simply observed a weird, uncommon event in my home, in my life.

You don't even know what real insanity is. For goodness sake, don't say another word about insanity.
You're not the one that should talk about that.
.

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I don't think. Your first sentence made me understand that my opinion is a problem for you.
Well, man, you will have to deal with open-mind people many times, if you continue with stubborn skepticism.
That's normal life don't you think?

I just think I told you a couple of things that so many other people would want to tell you, and to all skeptics in here in general.

I can tell you, you crossed the line for me, when you said synchronicities are psychotic.
Dude, get informed about psychosis. It has nothing to do with synchronicities.

If any children or teenager is reading this thread, guys, I can assure you this dude doesn't know the exact definition of crazyness.

If you experience synchronicistical experiences, you are completely sane.
That's a fact. Its like dreaming.
You know I had to deal with people that thought dreaming was only for crazy insane people? You know why they told me those things? Because they don't dream, according to them only.
Everybody dreams, everybody has had a synchronicistical event in their life. Google it.

This thread NEEDS to be like it was BEFORE. First pages, Evasius back, me back to just visiting this thread sometimes on important dates.

This thread needs to kick out some skeptic people. We want researchers and people who can understand that life is not a scientifical rant but something to enjoy and discover, when unexpected things can happen.
Life is not made of science only guys.
You scientist should know better than other people, but you waste your knowledge like that.

I will say this only one more time.

The Timewave is used as a mathematical calculator in conjunction with Novelty Theory, something that is criminally ignored in this thread. Without Novelty Theory there would be no Timewave, and vice versa. The theory proposes that the universe is an engine designed for the production and conservation of novelty. Novelty, in this context, can be thought of as newness, or extropy (a term coined by Max More meaning the opposite of entropy). The dips in the graph represent novelty, while peaks represent habit, or oldness/entropy. When the Timewave reaches a peak, we are most susceptible to events that have happened routinely in the past. When the Timewave dips into a valley we are most susceptible to experiencing new, or novel events.

Anyone trying to tie certain predictions to the Timewave based on peaks and valleys does so at their own risk. That was not the purpose at all for the creation of the Timewave. I have written this as plainly as I can as I have repeated this same subject innumerable times over the lifetime of this thread. If you people fail to understand this still just leave the thread and forget about the Timewave, stick to the prediction threads you find in the Gray Area or something. There is nothing for you to entertain yourselves here.

Anyone remember the post below by Evasius from back in January? It's on page 65 if you want to go check the whole thing. Well, Volcanos have been a bit of a theme this year, and we're into November with Merapi still exploding and now Anuk Krakatau stirring. Mid December is the resonance to watch out for, or maybe the dates really are a bit off, I don't know.. Thoughts anyone?

Originally posted by Evasius
reply to post by bargoose

 

The resonance for Krakatoa is around mid-December this year. It appears about halfway down the slope which begins around November 14, 2010 and ends on January 18, 2011.

....... SNIP............

My personal gut feeling is this - 2009 had a 'Moon' theme. This year's theme is the 'Sun' combined with the idea of 'balance.' (This theme is an intuitive assumption, not an official one). I believe the Sun will become noticeably active and will somehow trigger activity on the Earth, especially within the are known as the Ring of Fire. This is specifically why I chose Maori music for the 'Timewave 2010 video' posted above.

And for what it's worth, this year's Sydney's New Years Eve fireworks featured a prominent 'Ring of Fire' on the Harbour Bridge which then morphed into a 'Yin-Yang.' The theme was that of 'fire gives and takes away' which I suppose was in some way inspired by the 2009 'Black Saturday bushfires' in Victoria.

....SNIP....

Anyway Krakatoa fits right in with the 'Ring of Fire' theme and should be watched closely.

[edit on 24/1/10 by Evasius]

Originally posted by unityemissions
So sorry you're one of the millions of others who seem to misinterpret quantum mechanics...

No. This one is quite clear. Under the parameters of the tunnel effect if you try enough times you can make a particle to cross an energy barrier beyond the energy level of such particle.
There is no confusion or misinterpretation in this phenomena.

It didn't turn out to be as Mr. Mckinney stated.

Sorry, I am not aware of Mr Mckinney statements

Why is it that you think I interpret it as such? The broader you take it to possibly mean, the less it has any real value. Accepting this, I merely think of it as, MEH...

Because you are talking about 'failed predictions' . As Tgautier13 has been explaining (and just again a couple of posts before this one), this was never the purpose of TWZ.

Agreed. But don't leave out the negatives either. There's balance in everything, no?

Sure, if for some reason our civilization failed to have access to electricity, that would be a huge negative novelty, because for our generation there is no way we have any idea what is to live without it.

What? No, sanity is to be certain that your grasp of reality is better than the extreme weirdo who keeps on spouting out jargon that has no backing, whatsoever.

Is the very fact you reach this conclusion what makes me feel you are not fully grasping this issue.
The opinion "extreme weirdo" is a point of view that depends on your own cultural a psychological state.
In short, you are declaring some people is very wrong, because they have failed your own measure of coherence. Completely ignoring the parameters such people is stating as the reference for their declarations.
Therefore as most people you are sure you are right and everybody else must be wrong.

You say the declarations 'has no backing' and you speak of 'failures'. But I have yet to see those failures, and the lack of backing. (Novelty theory? Moore's Law? biologic evolution? civilization progress?)

What I can prove to myself based on my limited experiences is that the vast majority of people who claim to be experiencing synchronicities within their coincidences are going through a psychotic phase.

Only the vast majority?? and you can prove it (at least to yourself)? Therefore you can prove to yourself that infinite has in fact and active 'divine' side influencing this world.... don't you?

they're definitely deluded and compensating for some sort of emotional... trauma --- Screw statistics, the human experience transcends statistical probability, but that has nothing to do with these magical beliefs, in fact it goes far to disprove them.

Well, for people to copy the current fashion do not prove or disprove 'synchronicities' at all. An its a topic a little outside the purpose of this thread.

Why don't you try to argue about the really strong points? what about the cycles in nature? what about the technology tendency to a singularity (like in Moore's law) ? What about the really long cycles of the sun?
what about knowledge accumulation?

Or about the statistical meaningful events, like something really big (like the examples you give before) taking place in November? You say that such thing is pure coincidence but I tell you that being able to state the month and year of any event that have a frecuency in hundreds or thousands of years is quite a notable power.