Iranians Revolt - Latest News

reply to post by HunkaHunka


Exactly my point. In my 28 years I have not seen a riot with all groups mixed like this. I wish them the best of luck. The more I see this, the more I think these elections were rigged.

reply to post by TurkeyBurgers


Which Twitter sites in particular? I thought that the internet had been shut down in Iran?

I doubt that Obama will say anything. He seems to take a "ignore it and it goes away" attitude toward bad things. In addition, Biden will probably be scolded for saying something.

I don't know for sure, but think Ahmadinejad actually got the most votes. Maybe not enough to clear the 50% hurdle requiring a runoff next week.

Ballot boxes were stuffed to get him back in and the election finished.

Mousavi is no angel.

But think the Communist Revolution even after the Czar had made concessions allowing a parliament or the Boston Tea Party.

Those protesting at their core are mostly educated kids in North Tehran. But this is where Revolutions start.

For a few weeks Iranians got a taste of Freedom. The Green Revolution was going to take place after their election, and years of increasing anxiety and tension would be over.

An illusion. But it's dangerous to take away dreams from people so quickly.

This may be the tipping point for the 30 years Islamic Revolution. No one argue it's going as planned.

Iran has been tragically mismanaged for too long. A small vanguard of Westernized Iranian students are openly confronting their masters.

It starts this way.


Mike



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reply to post by HunkaHunka


I noticed that too-
People in suits,shirts,casual,work clothes,proffesional clothes,youths.
Upon viewing this footage it becomes apparent that this is not just some hooligans,but in fact the whole cross section of their society.
Young,old,working class,middle class,all classes are represented.
Men and women alike.

This is massive.

These people are trying to rise up against an oppressive regime.
What do we do in the west when we get a fixed election,or state brutality and oppression? WE WHINGE.We moan and slag them off on blogs...What do the Iranians do?
They are doing what so many on ATS have talked about for YEARS.
The Iranians are doing it.NOW.
Not whining and whingeng. DOING.
Good luck,and respect to the protesters.

Originally posted by Ace High
More videos:

Ahmadinejad is on the defensive for sure, Amanpour challenges him-

www.liveleak.com...


Ahmadinejad cheated on this election and the people are calling him on it. They want free and fair elections.

Sorry to go slightly off topic but what in the world could he mean by "Iran's status in the world will be upgraded in four years"? He repeatedly mentions this four year timeframe which makes me wonder if he has information possibly relating to the nuclear program specifying completion in four years. That does actually fit quite well with the CIA estimates also.

edit: nevermind the above, just realised he's probably referring to the four year presidential term. A bit slow today



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reply to post by octotom


twitter.com...

This one has lots of good juice. They set up internet refresh pages that have crashed both ahmadinejad and khamenei webs sites.

They are trying to get pictures of the tanks uploaded. We shall see. It is night time there.

reply to post by TurkeyBurgers


Good Lord..I knew tanks would only be a matter of time.
Poor people.
I hope there are no tanks.

reply to post by mmiichael


Star for you buddy, I love the way you put it, "It starts this way"

I agree!

Let us pray it's more like the Boston Tea Party than French Revolution.
I am hoping that after all is said and done, more will be done, this time, than said.
We can learn from these folks.

The obviously rigged elections in the U.S. are an insult, are we next?

Originally posted by HunkaHunka

Originally posted by Ace High
Protesters throwing rocks and then advancing at cops, filmed through a chain-link fence.

Wow... my impression of this is that this is a wide range of Iranian citizens... all very ticked!

Women, Men, Young, Old,

All Ticked off!

are you telling us what we are going to see when we view this?
That same technique worked extremely well on 911
That is a military covert hypnotic propaganda technique...
I see mostly students and that older white CIA'ish guy with sunglasses at 0.49

www.youtube.com...

The people are SHOUTING from the rooftops!

Cant stop this snowball. Too late now.

Great links here and great thread.

You can't stick this one on America, Mossad or anywhere else. Iran has always had a strong educational culture, theyw ill understand how other countried live and what freedoms mean, especially with their relatives living in other countries e.g. America, GB, France etc.

They have a lot of young free thinkers and this is their reaction to the result. I think this is the real deal.

www.youtube.com...

Guy is beaten to death in Iran by the riot police. Someone copy this before it gets taken down again. This is insane.

reply to post by templar knight


Of course you can stick in on america, they have done loads of these. American soldiers do not need to be there, for america not to be running it all.

every country has students, lol

And the beatings from the riot police continue:

www.liveleak.com...

www.liveleak.com...

These are getting harder to watch as the cops are getting more aggressive.

GO IRANIANS

I have roomed with and know allot of young Iranians, these kids are alright...

Good for them, it's about time, get rid of that Freak in Charge... more embarrassing than even Bush, he even looks scary so does the Ayatollah, these kids don't need this non sense, they are cultured, have educations... like to enjoy life... Iranians aren't backwards mainly, not to any higher degree than any other 1st world nation...

They simply don't deserve this over their heads, war, war, threat of war... persecution...

Best of luck... good job, perhaps we have something to learn from you in the West after all... like how to stand up straight and walk with pride.

Ya know if this fails its gonna drive the hardliners into being even more hard line. It will not be pretty.

Originally posted by grover
Ya know if this fails its gonna drive the hardliners into being even more hard line. It will not be pretty.

Totally agree. That is why this revolt CANNOT fail. It absolutely CANNOT. This is their last stand. The 300. This it it.

The rest of the world can chose to stand by and watch or to stand with them.

As an American citizen who does not take his freedoms lightly I stand with them. NOTHING can make you appreciate freedom like seeing people dying unarmed fighting for theirs.

I did two tours in Iraq and would GLADLY in a HEARTBEAT jump on the first transport to Tehran and jump out.

Give me a ride and a parachute and I am good to go.

I will even bring my own weapons.

reply to post by grover


That is the truth. At this point I believe this is a full blow revolution. Once the tanks come in(considering that piece of info is true) it's only going to escalate.

Based off the cross section of people, and how many their are, they aren't going to take this repressive regime anymore.

That is what it looks like to me, anyway. I think these people with what has been started they are going to see it through to the finish. And I hope they succeed.

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Students in revolt = Tianamen Square.
The students will have minimal impact other than be supressed.The student movement in China from 20 years ago is completely unknown by the new generations of students there.

The change in Iran (if thats what all of them truly want, remember it's their choice, not ours) would need to come from all levels of Iranian society to be effective. This would be difficult as that would require these different social facets campaign that Sharia law is not the correct letters for governing in IRAN. So rebel against their faith?

The supreme leader is the Ayotollah, not the president, The clerics sanction the candidates that run, therefore it didnt really matter who got in, the power base is still the same. All Iranians rebelling against Sharia? This will not be a likely outcome.



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