The God Gene. Are many of us from the lineage of angels?

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Hi GBD,

You've got me excited. I can't wait to hear what you've studied, and learned.

One thing I've learned in my short(120 years ain't enough) life is how it evolves. One day your a lamb walking down the street. Vulnerable to all the wolves in the woods, and the sharks in the ocean.

The progressing days you open your eyes; potentially in a little fear. Soon enough, a person will be able to see the wolves, and swim with the sharks because you know them better than they know themselves.

Look forward to reading.

I feel you have opened up many questions good, but not answered them I like the title but your OP didn't specify any insight to the title, only left me for insight from my own introspection.

I think you opened up enough questions to publish at least a five page document. Hope you follow up on that such action, the answers are out there.

I could also like to think that you may have covered truth in the mix of questions you have shown. keep the good work up.

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Sorry for the delay but my electricity was out after work yesterday.

Specifically, our lack of feeding our soul, our ka, with the Star Fire or ORME may be the primary reason for humans' diminished capacities. (There is also the possibility that there's been another from of intervention -- one which turned off the extra DNA and brain power -- but this might not have been needed, if a critical component of the human diet was made unavailable.)

The Bible quotes Moses as informing the Hebrew People, "You have not kept the covenant, and so the manna is being taken from you. But it will come back in the end times, when we will then be a nation of high priests and not an elect high priesthood." Allegedly, what Moses was referring to was the food of the gods, the light humans take into their bodies. Apparently, migrating humans were simply denied the ORME.

According to The Dead Sea Scrolls Uncovered [4], in ancient times, when the white powder was mixed in water, it was known as "The Golden Tear from the Eye of Hours." It was called, "That which issues from the mouth of the creator. The spittle. Not the word of God, but the spittle of God, the semen of the father in heaven." If one puts the white powder of gold in water, it doesn't really dissolve. It forms a gelatinous suspension, which looks just like a vial of semen.

I read Laurence Gardiner's Genesis of the Grail Kings a few years ago and he mentioned a discovery of what seemed to be weightless powder gold inside of a room that was inside Mt. Horab The discovery was by Flinders Petrie an archeologist in the late 19th century. In fact other discoveries by Petrie almost got him banned because they went against what was believed in the bible.

The excerpt below is from a blog post that has the full 2003 Nexus article. I think this may be closer to the manna than the above. I could certainly be wrong though. The connection to a food is a good one though.

When discussing the attributes of monatomic gold and the platinum group metals in Genesis of the Grail Kings, I remarked that it would not be long before the potential of these noble metals was announced for environment-friendly fuel cells. These, I suggested, would supersede fossil fuels for transportation and other practical purposes. At the same time, I touched on their future use in the medical arena, particularly in the field of cancer treatment. More especially, we looked at the gravity-defying attributes of these exotic white-powder substances and at their abilities to superconduct and literally bend space-time.

The truly astonishing fact about the enigmatic white powder of high-spin gold and platinum group metals is that it is not actually a new discovery. The ancient Mesopotamians called it shem-an-na and the Egyptians described it as mfkzt (vowels are omitted in the hieroglyph translation), while the Alexandrians venerated it as a gift from Paradise and later chemists such as Nicolas Flamel called it the Philosophers' Stone.

At all stages of its history, the sacred "powder of projection" was reckoned to have extraordinary powers of levitation, transmutation and teleportation. It was said to produce brilliant light and deadly rays, while at the same time being a key to active physical longevity. In today's world, the Institute for Advanced Studies (Austin, Texas, USA) has described the substance as "exotic matter", and superconductivity (one of its primary characteristics) has been claimed by the Center for Advanced Study (University of Illinois, USA) as "the most remarkable physical property in the universe".

gold is money forum


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reply to post by ELFowl Here's one link I found in the search engine. It is on the topic of a russian genetics team manipulating DNA with sound, and light. Russian's manipulate DNA with sound, and light.

There was a lot of information on that link...almost too much. Unfortunately I am not able to pull it all together with my lack of knowledge. The connection to harmonics, sound and light were known and accepted by the ancients, yet we seem to have forgotten.

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In the book Isis Unveiled, the ability of 'modern man' to discount the knowledge of the ancients, appears to be one of Blavatsky's pet peves.

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Yes, I think it is a pet peeve of many of us who had looked even lightly into our past. Don't remember who said it but "there is nothing new under the sun".

I think most of the past has been reinterpreted because we can't relate to the truth...or to put it another way, it hasn't been scientifically discovered and accepted by the main stream.

First, let's take a look at the caduceus, from two seperate sources.


This article by Heinz Insu Fenkl is absolutely amazing and it's almost a shame I found this only earlier today. Read the entire article as it digs deeply into the serpent/stave connection that is found throughout numerous cultures around the world.

www.endicott-studio.com...

And to just emphasize something I found remarkable, let me repost the final paragraph

"So the caduceus could be the blueprint for a machine used for mind control and healing, a diagram of how the human body is its own vehicle for transcendence, or merely an accidental symbol for the medical profession. Take your pick, but apply your caduceus wisely; remember that the most important rule for the physician is, "First, do no harm."

Mind control? Diagram?
Intriguing, no doubt about it. There is an undeniable wisdom in the ways of our ancestors that we tend to turn a blind eye to in our modern age of instant gratification and personal irresponsibility.

Another look at the caduceus from my second source.

www.aloha.net...

Posting another revealing snippet from this link below...

"In an article by Gregg Braden called "Egypt's Wisdom" as found in the Leading Edge News, he reflects on the loss of so many valuable inherited traits that our 10% used brain capacity has no concept of. Interviewed By Kenneth and Dee Burke, he states:

BRADEN: .... Maybe we should acknowledge at this point that 1,700 years ago, key elements of our most sacred heritage were lost -- relegated to the esoteric traditions and the mystery schools. They were lost from the mainstream literature. Then, 1,000 years later, those texts that weren't lost were poorly translated into the language of the West. They were abbreviated, reorganized and poorly translated, further confusing the roles that we play in the presence of one another and the roles that we play between our selves, our Earth and, ultimately, our Creator. The reason that this is so important is that our belief systems today that underlie our science, our religion, our technology and our history, are all based upon the incomplete memories, these incomplete records of these original traditions. They all mirror that, and that's why our science is based upon separateness, upon viewing the events of life as separate from what's happening in our bodies. That's why our religion sees us as separate from our Creator and separate from one another. "

From these two articles alone there is no denying the obvious assocation of the serpent/stave combination with gentetics and DNA, when looked at from the perspective of our ancestral forebearers.

As well all know, the Christian Bible makes extensive use of the serpent as a villian. We see this in the loss of innocence that took place in the Garden of Eden. It should also be noted, however, that Aaron, Moses' brother and leader of the Levi tribe, used his stave in serpentine ways, and Moses himself created a bronze snake after being instructed by the Lord to do so. Read below.

EXODUS 7:8-13
"The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, "When Pharaoh says to you, 'Perform a miracle, then say to Aaron, 'Take your staff and throw it down before Pharaoh,' and it will become a snake."
"So Moses and Aaron went to Pharaoh and did just as the Lord commanded. Aaron threw his staff down in front of Pharaoh and his officials, and it became a snake. Pharaoh then summoned wise men and sorcerers, and the Egyptian magicians also did the same thing by their secret arts: Each one threw down his staff and it became a snake. But Aaron's staff swallowd up their staffs. Yet Pharaoh's heart became hard and he would not listen to them, just as the Lord had said."

It would appear, from this passage, that the serpent is seen as a symbol of power and knowledge, seeing as all the particpants used serpents. Why not scorpions, or another type of deadly creature, I wonder? Does the serpent hold that much more sway over our ancestors and their hiearchy of the food chain?

Next we see Moses creating a bronze snake to save the rambunctious Israelites during their search for the Promised Land.

NUMBERS 21:4-9
"They traveled from Mount Hor along the route of the Red Sea, to go around Edom. But the people grew impatient on the way; they spoke against God and against Moses, and said, "Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the desert? There is no bread! There is no water! And we detest this miserable food!"
"Then the Lord sent venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died. The people came to Moses and said, "We sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray that the Lord will take the snakes away from us." So Moses prayed for the people."
"The Lord said to Moses, 'Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.' So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, he lived."

Here we see the serpent as both divine and demonic. How interesting that God used serpents in both roles, as death and salvation at once.

More to follow soon, as I'm compiling notes and drafting on the fly.

GbD

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reply to post by GuiltyByDesign


Good work and a take on things in a way I haven't considered. Seems to me that the snake may have been purposefully used to create fear and dread whether by design or ignorance. This makes knowledge a bad thing so just shut up and follow.

I sent a U2U with a take I found that speaks to the double helix DNA, aka snake, in a different way.

That link you sent me was excellent, I'll have to look into it further. Once again, much appreciated my friend.

Yes, it IS funny how the serpent has been demonized, isn't it? More people are killed by bees every year than by snakes, yet you don't see wholesale 'witch hunts' for bees if a child falls victim to an attack like you see in historical cases.

It would seem as if something or someone wants us to fear and keep a healthy distance away from that which slithers along the dirt, doesn't it?

And I'll address that shortly as well. Pieceing together personal e-mails from home to complie at work isn't as easy as I had orginally thought. And I have a meeting in 5 minutes.

Until then...

GbD

reply to post by GuiltyByDesign


I am rereading some of the early posts and wanted to comment on this.

The seeds of the woman (Eve) and the Serpent (Satan) would fight against each other. Are we to take this as a literal translation of man against snake, or man against something completely different?

Maybe it is man against (or versus) knowledge.

Manipulation is a powerful weapon.

We have been led for years to believe that snakes are 'evil'.

"He's a snake and a liar!"

"Jim's a snake in the grass!"

(insert personal snake-demonizing epithet here)

Our forebearers did not loathe snakes nearly as much as we have been. Even our "Don't Tread on Me" flag, represent America's founding fathers and their pledge to defend each other, used a snake as a symbol.

For many years now I've thought we were not alone in this universe. And for all those years, I've thought if any race were to stop by our planet and say 'hello', we would be afraid at first, and then welcome them.

Except for if that race were reptillian in appearance.
Such as a serpent with feathers and wings.

A symbol that signifies our genetic heritage, medical sciences, and our fears of the unknown.

Just for emphasis, my previous and future posting IN NO WAY endorse serpent or snake worship.

I still believe in a creator God, who made us in his image. What I am questioning in this thread is our place in the creation, how we got here, and what our true potential is.

God bless and peace!

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Not something i would brag about

but peace be with you

The serpent angle continues with a look at the ancient Egyptian pantheon of gods and Quetzlecoatl, the 'winged-serpent' god of the Mayans.

Let's start with Egypt, and focus on Wadjet, the patron and protector of Egypt and the pharaohs.


en.wikipedia.org...

Notice the importance of the dates in which the festivals and observations of Wadjet are held? Impressive, to say the least. Also, take note of the following quote..

"The image of Wadjet with the sun disk is called the uraeus, and it was the emblem on the crown of the rulers of Lower Egypt."

Rulers of Lower Egypt. The controllers of the Nile, the lifeblood of Egypt. A very important undertaking for the prosperity of the pharaohs and their people. I intend to find a proper resource for looking further into Wadjet and her place in the culture of the ancient Egyptians, but first, let's now look across the Atlantic Ocean, to early mezo America.

Quetzalcoatl

en.wikipedia.org...

Quetzalcoatl is fascinating in that his description draws comparison with Lucifer in the Bible. Both are known as the 'morning star.'

Both are associated with serpents.

Notice, also, that it is said he used the bones of 'old mankind' to 'create' the fifth-world (modern) humans. Is this implying that Quetzalcoatl was able to reconstruct DNA genetical structures to rebuild humanity?

reply to post by GuiltyByDesign


My god you've done your homework. I've got some reading to do; thanks GBD.

Anytime, my friend, glad to be able to add constructive ideas to the discussion.

Busy at work for the past few minutes, but I have more stuff to share from my readings, thinkings, and meandering around the Internet.

God bless and peace!

GbD

From the bible Genesis 20:12. This is in reply to Abimelich, the king who Abraham told Sarah was his sister and left out that she was also his wife.

"But indeed she is truly my sister. She is the daughter of my father but not the daughter of my mother and she became my wife".

So this implies that Sarah and Abraham had the same mother but different fathers, thus they had the same matrilineal DNA.

On this part I take it to mean that the other way round, He says she is the daughter of my father, so on that they must both have the same male lineage and different mothers.

This thread is killer by the way and the OP was extremely well put, I think nearly everyone who frequents here can feel something coming and someone mentioned being stood on a hill top and imagining being able to destroy everything.. although I know for a fact that I'm 'on the right side' I too have been having these thoughts of just being able to absolutely destroy everything, but its always with complete calm.

Got no idea why though..

I can easily tear down ur DNA wall of Eve eating lucifer's semon

For Also ADAM ate of the Tree of Knowledge as Eve gave the fruit to Him so I guess He also ate lucifer's semon?

God wanted Eve, and Adam to eat of the fruit of the tree, knew it advance, and if He didn't want them to eat of this knowledge then why did He put it there in the first place, and tell them not to eat it? As you see God was tempting them to eat it...

Garden of Eden could of just been a place of mind yes.. the Happiness is the Bliss state of Mind you know? Dumb, and Stupid... For this Being called God created it all, started it all, and will end it all.. God is the True Satan - He says so in the Bible - "I am the alpha, and omega" = first, and last - good, and evil hence he is god, if you deny this you deny he is god...

Also the Image of God is not the physical image but the characteristics of this God being even in a so called sinning state...

Yesm Yes God does have many faces, Yes, Yes God did create you do something sinning, and then punishes you for He is God right?

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You are absolutely right. I think I was too focused the other way around. Good catch and thank you for pointing it out.

I will correct the original.


edit to say it looks as though I won't be able to make the correction.

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Hi everyone. Sorry I've not been around, I've been taking care of a very sick dog that had surgery. I can jump around ATS and post a thought here or there but I can't do any serious thinking or research until he gets better, which hopefully will be tomorrow. The vet said he's looking better today. I'm reading Gbd research when I get more than 10 minutes at a time to actually concentrate on something, and I'm finding it SO AWESOME! I'm about half way through the links now. Great stuff.
I'm going to keep reading and try to answer some posts tonight on this thread which actually takes thought .

For now, back to being doggie nurse.