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Originally posted by heineken
one more thing...if they are debris or crystals or paint that are quite visible being effected by a force....there is no chance that the broken part change a little bit its direction or rotation too?
Originally posted by Exuberant1
reply to post by JScytale
Greetings Jsclayte,
Unlike Zorgon, you have yet to provide external-source documentation which corroborates your hypothesis.
You should familiarize yourself with the Tether Optical Phenomena Experiment through which this video data was acquired.
*Zorgon has provided the relevant data and links.
Originally posted by heineken
one more thing...if they are debris or crystals or paint that are quite visible being effected by a force....
Originally posted by JScytale
my first post was an external source. first reply of the thread.
Originally posted by Exuberant1
Originally posted by JScytale
my first post was an external source. first reply of the thread.
Your external source is a youtube video....
Compare these to the links to legitimate scientific papers, studies and documentation provided by Zorgon, and which both corroborate and substantiate his hypothesis with regards to the reasons for the visibility of the plasma-glow around the tether.
You efforts are not very impressive and thus far your claims lack substance.
Zorgon JSClayte
Originally posted by JScytale
do you know why you see the same explanations raised when doubt is expressed? because those are the explanations logic and common sense lead to.
Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by JScytale
do you know why you see the same explanations raised when doubt is expressed? because those are the explanations logic and common sense lead to.
Well common sense says that an object without its own motive power would continue in the same direction unless acted upon by an outside force. I think a guy by the name of Newton came up with that one
Now applying your logic and common sense, please prove to us what the force is that creates the motion we see in the video... they are moving in various directions, various speeds, make several turns independent of each other etc.
Any grade school space cadet can tell you once a piece of debris is set in motion it would need an outside force to change direction
So please tell me what force accounts for all the motion seen in the video?
I know many out there assume that ice particles and dust would just float around like they do in the atmosphere. That is NOT the case in space.
So please show us and provide documentation and calculations to back your interesting theory
Thanks
Oh and the Earths gravity pulling ice and dust particles down in a parabolic arc? Over that short a time period? You really expect any sane person to buy into that one?
Originally posted by KIRKSTERUK
Haha, I like how this "new analysis" was done in Windows Movie Maker. Professional stuff!
Originally posted by JScytale
www.youtube.com...
go to 5:30
that is pretty convincingly debunked by a show dedicated to finding evidence of UFOs. in fact im not sure why people keep talking about the STS-75 incident. If you're interested in some truly good evidence from shuttle missions, watch the full episode, a lot of it is very solid.
Originally posted by upnorthtrip
Originally posted by reugen
Originally posted by easynow
reply to post by JScytale
thanks but i have already seen that video from the ufo hunters. they did demonstrate that these objects that appear to be passing behind the tether and the strange critter shape they have could be an illusion.
what the video in the Op shows is...no matter if these objects went behind the tether or not, they are making delta V shaped maneuvers and at one point in the video you will see one of the objects stop ! and then do a 180 degree turn in direction.
that is what needs to be explained
I think it has been explained hundreds of times, the Shuttle thrusters can fire from more than one direction. Say some ice debris breaks of from the cargo bay and floats out into space and into FOV. Then they fire a thruster (very delicate, it can be done so, proven) which makes the debris float the opposite direction, then they fire a thruster opposite of the other one (to keep the shuttle in place, it can be done very delicate) which makes the debris change direction once more, say a 180 degree turn. As the partcile / debris is passing behind the several mile long tether can be explained away by light exposure, optical illusion but its not just as easy.
So its a 50/50 case, i think its just ice particles, debris floating in space being bounced around by thruster vector.
How many thrusters are in the shuttle?
I see objects coming from all directions.
Why aren,t the thrusters affecting all the objects???
Are they selective?
That makes no sense
[edit on 7-6-2009 by upnorthtrip]