NJ Cops beat man for no reason...

reply to post by NWOhereNOW


You find it much easier to respond to a single personal comment, rather than address even one of my rational arguments...

I can't say that surprises me. Perhaps it is your nature to simply scroll over statements which are beyond your comprehension until you find a nugget on which to base a personal attack?

Lock these cops up in a room with insects followed by water boarding. But then again forget it because that's not torture, or so says Dick Cheney.

This is disgusting, but what do you expect when they give criminals a blue shirt and a badge.

Originally posted by Mailman
reply to post by Anonymous Avatar

 

I figured this one sombody using this video to further their ideas.

You are sensationalizing it and not really looking at it, like I did and explained what I saw above.

he should have either stayed on the sidewalk, or crossed the street like a normal person.. If he is this unstable he should be in an institute where they probably have to use the same force from time to time.

[edit on 6-6-2009 by Mailman]

You have got to be F*in kidding me!?

There is no sensationalizing this. That is straight up felony assault. He can stand on the corner or not cross the street or whatever the hell he wants, it does not deserve getting beat by anybody, ESPECIALLY the police. He was not doing anything illegal what so ever and even if he was the police can simply arrest the guy, there is no reason to beat him with a baton over and over.

I have to assume you are either a complete moron, a troll of this thread, or someone with no basic decency what so ever. That guy did nothing wrong and even if he had there was no reason to beat him like that... and I am dumbfounded how you could think otherwise.

I personally wont have anything to do with America I don't want to go there or buy anything from there. Its a failed country. The people there are failures. They are greedy, criminally minded and just selfish. The society there has failed big time. I hope America falls really and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone hoping that.

[edit on 7-6-2009 by zorkthegreat]

Originally posted by zorkthegreat
I personally wont have anything to do with America I don't want to go there or buy anything from there. Its a failed country. The people there are failures. They are greedy, criminally minded and just selfish. The society there has failed big time. I hope America falls really and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone hoping that.

[edit on 7-6-2009 by zorkthegreat]

im not greedy, criminal minded

i am not a failure

i hope you realize blanket accusations always end up being wrong half the time right??

that is very very closed minded of you, deny ignorance?

i do not hope where you are from fails, despite your hatefulness
i hope you realize the error of that statement

reply to post by zorkthegreat

your a bit harse there with your statement, the members here are mainly from the states and i have yet to come across any one on this site like this. of course you will find this in any society in the world, but its not the norm ....

reply to post by zorkthegreat


And what country do you live in?

Bet thats a failure alsoe. Pathetic to attack a whole country based on what you are told to believe. Instead of chatting to americans like normal people do.

I am sorry but the People in the US need to do something about the police brutality that is happening over there. Beating a dude for standing at the edge of the road is absolutely shocking. Has the law enforcement officer been suspended or anything or are they trying to cover this one up also?

[edit on 7-6-2009 by Laurauk]

reply to post by Anonymous Avatar


It took you awhile there, I figured you were just going to ignore my thoughts.

Look man, there have been alot of police brutality threads on here over the years. My usual first reaction is those freakin a-holes. bla bla bla.
I would also get angry at those who maybe stuck up for the officers, or say the victim struggled.
I still believe in other incidents that I have looked at , and came to the conclusion of overuse of power and brutality. But I have to be honest here. When I first see what I see in that video. I already explained it.

Some of you are bouncing back and forth from sympathetic, to stop the illuminati police froce.

Muzzle, I was simply making a point that what would a lowly NJ officer benifit from the illuminati for struggling to subdue a likely well know mentally ill person.. What would the illuminati benefit from beating a poor mentally ill person standing in front of a bar?
just trying to help some people with their priorities.

reply to post by Jakes51


With all due respect Jakes, there is NOTHING in this footage that warrants this type of reaction. I generally can side with officers when using elevated means of detainment ( as I have been there done that). However there is nothing that he could of said to warrant this type of reaction. It requires actions and probable cause to elevate a reaction. None, from what I have seen, was present.

reply to post by djvexd


having watched all the videos on the site, the ones shows a shot of the survellience camera. It was really big, and you can see someone is operating the pan.

So not only did this guy know it was there, I'll bet the responding officers did as well. I would bet that a 7 yr veteran wouldnt go out of their way to beat sombody for no reason in front of a manned survellience camera.

I simply believe the officer didnt have the strenght to restrain this man in a normal way, and the "victim" took advantage of this wich is hard to see.
He didnt have to say anything.

as an Irish man lookin at these type of videos every other day I really have to wonder not if but when the spark will occur that that sets off the american public into taking action against this type of behaviour. its getting totally out of hand.our police can be bad at times but things like that are rare occurences

reply to post by Mailman


Here is the chink in that armor my friend. As an officer, if their intent was to arrest this man or even "encounter" him from the get-go they would not have leisurely rolled up to the corner in thier cruiser with the female officers hand outside the window. When dealing with possibly unstable or intoxicated individuals there are procedures in place to minimize the risk to both the officers and the "perp". These 2 followed none of them. Aside from making a DIRECT threat to kill or severely harm the officers, Rios overstepped the bounds. Period.

reply to post by djvexd


your the second person here as far as I know babbleing about being an officer. That deosnt change your perpective in watching a video imo. It doesnt solidify what you are saying one bit.

They are human, they look to be like any human driving in a car and not anticipating seeing a man strangely standing on the side of the road with his naked stomach distracting drivers.

maybe it is time that we start having the police weed out these guys on their own. For every lawsuit that is justifiably brought on against a police dept. I say that it should be paid for out of the dept.'s budget, and if that includes a cut in pay to go along, so be it...after a few pay cuts the police themselves will come down on these guys...does the term " blanket party" ring a bell?

Originally posted by zorkthegreat
I personally wont have anything to do with America I don't want to go there or buy anything from there. Its a failed country. The people there are failures. They are greedy, criminally minded and just selfish. The society there has failed big time. I hope America falls really and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone hoping that.

[edit on 7-6-2009 by zorkthegreat]

Let me know how that attitude towards fellow human beings works out for you. Actually don't let me know.

reply to post by Mailman


I am not sure what we are seeing differently, but if you really believe that NJ cop was is any way justified for beating that man, then please do us all a favor and do not sign up for the force.

Originally posted by eMachine
reply to post by NWOhereNOW

 

You find it much easier to respond to a single personal comment, rather than address even one of my rational arguments...

I can't say that surprises me. Perhaps it is your nature to simply scroll over statements which are beyond your comprehension until you find a nugget on which to base a personal attack?

As it turns out I don't have to respond to every on of your messages. I'm not here for you. I've responded many times to this thread, some long posts and some short. Most concentrating on various aspects of the topic.

If I missed on of yours, you don't have to take it personal.

reply to post by heather65


Thanks for the video. It helped clear a few things up.

Just watched the unedited version thanks to heather65. It "APPEARS" that the male officer attempts to get the suspect to role over on his back. It also "APPEARS" that the suspect does not comply. Besides the obvious, the main problem that I have with this incident is that the female officer never attempts to help her partner, and when back up arrives they put the suspect into handcuffs so easily its rediculous! If the suspect was that much of the threat then why didn't the female help?! If he really didn't want to be taken into custody then why were the backup officers able to handcuff him so easily?! The pieces of the puzzle are not fitting together! I have ten years of street law enforcement experience and have only escalated my response in response to the suspects-FORMALLY KNOWN AS THE USE OF FORCE CONTINUUM-it appears to me that the male officer escalated first which can be a good thing. But I don't believe it is in this case.

reply to post by NWOhereNOW


Ohh no you calculated everything wrong.
It apears it's police brutality after looking at the unedited version.
I was right about the boss/slave thingy.