Flight A447 The Facts Of The Conspiracy

reply to post by Psynarchist


No and No again

airliners crash - get over it

there is no conspiracy here - just a sad loss of life - we used to have a moto here - Deny Ignorance yet all I see here is ignorance of that moto

people had loved ones on that flight - your best testimony to them would better be - they are lost and we morn their deaths rather than fabricating something from whole cloth

it saddens me that in a world with so many human tragedies some people here seem intent upon raking over coals and seeing false flags where there are none

Okay folks, seriously, regardless of what AF, French, or Brazilian officials might say during the course of their respective investigations, its time to take the terrorism theory off the table. [Non-institutional] terrorists CLAIM RESPONSIBILITY. If nobody knows they did it, they're not achieving their objective as terrorists (that is, using "violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes").

Originally posted by Coeus
Not even one big event in the world goes without someone making a conspiracy-theory about it.

Could you guys for once accept a honest tragedy. Failure of technology.

Technology's dependability is based on the people that make it, the people that use it, AND in some cases the people that "un-make" it or sabotage it.

Originally posted by Someone336
The ThyssenKrupp angle is a very interesting one...

Fritz Thyssen has a deep connection to the Nazi party...

Yeah, thats pretty much what I was getting at...

Well, that and it seems to me that there were too many executives on that flight who work for companies that spend fortunes on material sciences R&D...

reply to post by Purple Dragon


Okay so regardless - as you say - what officials (erm Officials - ie qualified proffessionals say) - you postulate another theory

Might I ask in what field of Aeronautics you are qualified in? or what clasifications and types of plane you are cleared to fly?

Before you discount experts in their field its worth asking am I qualified to do so ?

Armchair quaterbacks are just that in this case

Have you flown with Air France?

Have you flown for that matter?

reply to post by Silk


Nope. Ma' and Pa' don't let me leave the farm very often except to go into town to trade for supplies...

Look, perhaps there are investigators out in the field right now that ARE actually looking to find out what really happened and tell the rest of us about it. But the fact of the matter is that SOMEONE is paying their salary, and whether we are talking about air france, the Brazilian air force, or the French gov't...their employers have interests, and there is no escaping the institutional pressure to tow the company line.

Originally posted by Psynarchist
If it eventually turned out to be a mass murder, wouldn't the victims need our respect in the sense that their killers are brought to justice? Rather than people claiming ''there's nothing to see here so move on with your life''?

Originally posted by Silk
No and No again

airliners crash - get over it

there is no conspiracy here - just a sad loss of life - we used to have a moto here - Deny Ignorance yet all I see here is ignorance of that moto

people had loved ones on that flight - your best testimony to them would better be - they are lost and we morn their deaths rather than fabricating something from whole cloth

No, Psynarchist is right. There's nothing wrong with even the most speculative of hypotheses, when advanced in honest pursuit of the truth. Frankly, I find the phrase "airliners crash - get over it" to be more offensive than wild theories. Go ahead and 'fabricate': the perspective given by evidence is in no way harmed.

Has anyone seen this video? Thought it might be worth watching. Sorry if it might seem distasteful in anyway.

Just saw this on CNN:

(CNN) -- At least 12 airplanes shared the trans-Atlantic sky with doomed Air France Flight 447, but none reported any problems, deepening the mystery surrounding the cause of the plane's disappearance.

Link: www.cnn.com...

reply to post by R N G


Ignoring the typical music tracks that are used in conspiracy videos, I found the part at 4:32 to be of interest. Can anybody confirm if the plane disappeared at the location the video indicated?

[edit on 6/5/2009 by SonicInfinity]

reply to post by R N G


The only thing of note that I could find of that geographic location in the Atlantic would be the May 29 1944 sinking of of U-549, a Type IXC/40 submarine operated by the German navy. prior to the sinking on that date U-549 had damaged the destroyer escort USS Barr and then sank the escort carrier USS Block Island. Strange name for a ship to have sunk at such a location.

Possible relevance to the location would be German or US investigation of this interesting geographic anomaly. Which may coincide with the Air France incident.

[edit on 5-6-2009 by LurkingSleipner]

Does anybody remember this?
"2006 transatlantic aircraft plot"
No defendant was found guilty of conspiracy to target aircraft.

source

it is very strange that there is still only a partial passenger list out. and look at the countries of the passengers who havent been listed. its also interesting to note the companies and professions of the passengers who were listed. it all can add up to some interesting theories.

I heard the other day on AP news that some friends and family had recieved text messages telling them they loved them around the same time the plane went down. I tried searching the web and didn't find anything on this and I have not heard AP or anyone else mention this again.

personally, i think someone shot it down. weather it be the U.S. or french or brazil

Originally posted by getreadyalready


Why no complete passenger manifest? Why huge debris field, and then no debris field or just sea trash? Why not report a missing plane, and send out search parties, the second it becomes missing?

They legally can not release a passenger manifest until the next of kin has been contacted and given permission.

The may not have noticed until it failed to report in. It also can take a while for a plane to be noticed overdue. Usually a plane crash is seen by a witnesses or an ELT (emergency locator transponder) goes off. If the ELT was destroyed in the crash no one would know it had crashed till it was overdue then they would try and find it and then when they were sure of a problem it would be identified to the next level up.

Originally posted by Silk

No and No again

airliners crash - get over it

there is no conspiracy here

If I were harassing the relatives of the victims with wild conspiracy questions then you may have had a point. But remember where you are here: a conspiracy website.
If you want to move on, then do so.

this is all very very fishy, something is going on in the world and it has to be uncovered, The most recent incident with this plane completely vanishing into thin air is a huge mystery ,i think with the list of names wont do any good becuase of how easy it is to use alias especially in foreign countries, Has anyone thought of the possibility that the plane was destroyed by an extraterrestial spaceship. Maybe this is a declaration of war.

Originally posted by lpowell0627
Just saw this on CNN:

(CNN) -- At least 12 airplanes shared the trans-Atlantic sky with doomed Air France Flight 447, but none reported any problems, deepening the mystery surrounding the cause of the plane's disappearance.

Link: www.cnn.com...

Man this thingh is really turning weird and weird by the our.

Here in Brazil people are expeculating a lot either about a UFO mass kidnapping , bomb , or that the plane didn´t crash in the ocean, it went to crash land in Africa due to malfunction.

The BAF ( Brazilian Air Force ) assumed today they just found garbbage in the ocean. with this accident people are seeing at least how badly our oceans are polluted.

But no single piece of the plane so far....

The Area they are earching is the size of the state of texas.

so now they have 12 airplanes, helicopters, 3 frigates , and two more ships coming tomorrow.

Its the biggest search operation Brazil has ever put together.

But its becoming very embarasing for us.

It looks like there was no crash in the ocean.

there were many fligths at the same time going tru the same airway with no reports of bad weather....

this is just ridiculous.!!!!!!!!!!!!

reply to post by SonicInfinity


Bad TV graphics perhaps?

Since in that same video they also set the plane taking off from Piaui and not from Rio -- which is way bellow and near the coast and is for sure the correct place from where the plane took off -- I don't find a single bit hard that person responsible for the graphics took a bit of "creative freedom" while doing it.

Enough to make some people to come up with crazy ideas.

Reading some of the posts here really made me sick. Both by the amount of misapplied creativity and plain ignorance.

Some seem to really think that the Atlantic ocean is a pond. The plane was almost 920km off the Brazilian cost right on the middle of the Atlantic (read nowhere) where the sea bottom is not only mountainous but reaches depths of 4 to 7km.

The Titanic was at 4km below and took ages and massive efforts with the appropriate technology to allow people to resurface parts of it.

Why people think that this would happen in hours in this case?

The area to be searched is really huge, massive and it won't be a simple task.

One thing is for sure, it's not the first time that a Airbus A330 breaks and all it's instruments stop working. Add that to a storm on the middle of the Atlantic and you have a tragedy.

There is no bombing, so all of you 911 freaks can calm down. If it was a bomb the plane would never have sent any automatic alert messages indicating multiple system failures and it would probably be easier to locate it since there would be pieces of the plane scattered all over the place and some would float no matter what.

Also the passengers list posted earlier on this thread is wrong and some of the passengers in there were in other flights and are alive and well.

The only thing I know is, they won't find survivors after this amount of time. People don't last long in the open sea.

What is strange to me is that they found debris from something else and not the plane.

This could point to a second plane theory.

Where is A447? If there is no debris, there is no wreck, if there is no wreck the plane is intact.

If the plane is intact, where did it land (if it landed)

what ever happened to it, must of happened quickly, because no distress
call went out! nothing!......
the whole thing is very disturbing, as usual what is being covered up and
hide from the public?