First A Jellyfish, Now A Dragonfly... Giant Crop Circles Just Get Weirder

Jellyfish, dragonflies and peace symbols: The summer of crop circles is just getting started...New Write up with Photos.

Last week a 350ft yin-yang symbol was cut into a barley field near Devizes, a crop circle hot spot.

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Telegraph Crop Circle Slide Show...

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YinYang crop circle
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Mysterous Ice Circle
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[edit on 6-6-2009 by burntheships]

reply to post by Concept X


Yes, of course, but nothing up there may be rooted in anything down here - so that would a constant loop.

Please show me how they can be man-made.

reply to post by titorite


Yes, glyphs = language.
Series of glyphs = stories.

In essense all pictures equal language since they convey a message which is the essence of communication.

reply to post by lpowell0627


It started out as pranks in the 60s and now has become a business did you know that farmers are now being paid by crop circle makers. Because if they don't they will go to jail.In fact theres guide lines that even require the crop circle maker to leave his card. And when people say it couldn't be done in one night always amazes me do you know i read somewhere one crop circle groups has about 40 members. If you go to circle makers there standard is 10 people .Its in part a competition and also money to be made.Then there is always the pride of fooling croppies.

The reason why it got more elaborate is because they had to disprove the theory its a natural phenomenon. In part i do believe there is a vortex that can create a crop circle but thats exactly what you get a circle.

Let's see, what was it I predicted in my post back on page 8?

"... I'd bet the next major non-manmade CCs will include elements of the inverse square law and cymatic shapes (representative of the frequency(ies) of intermittent magnetic pulses we should be looking at). And/or perhaps a basic schematic of how to synchronize those frequencies from 3 or more sources to the focal point to open the conduit to hyperspacial axes. Call me crazy, but I'm being absolutely serious."

I'll write it one more time. Erase the 'tentacles' on the supposed 'jellyfish' CC. They were added to throw off the message. It's like a child drawing over a Monet with crayons. It's not a jellyfish. Anyone who has really studied the morphologies of CCs over the decades will see it is a complex design made from many earlier CCs.

Well, you can lead a horse to water...

reply to post by dragonridr


How exactly do you think 40 people sit in a field night after night and create crop circles and nobody notices?

Further, there are many VERY ANGRY farmers after the circle is discovered. Or are you simply saying that all of the farmers are in on it together and those that get mad only pretend to get mad?

This is getting hard to believe for me.

I would totally go along with your theory if there were only a few a year - so that nobody would know when to expect another one. But 3 days in a row?

Please note, I am in no way saying all crop circles are genuine. But, please continue to share with me your thoughts on the above questions I asked. I will be the first to admit it if you convert me to a "crop circle hoaxer believer".

reply to post by lpowell0627


Have a look here:
www.circlemakers.org...

They make crop circles and some amazing ones at that, take a look at the pictures,

also explained how they do it here:
science.howstuffworks.com...
www.wikihow.com...

If you look at some of circlemakers works they are just as or more detailed and have meanings behind them as the dragonfly, there is plenty of doc's around showing you how they do it and showing them making a highly complex "out of this world" circle.

P.S about the above post, farmers are usually paid for the damage done to the crops with permission sought.


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reply to post by Flux8


You were right flux8 On june 5th we got that trinity crop glyph... So the tentacles were meant to throw people off? Why? Doesn't that go against their message of opposition to all forms of deception...

I mean you got a point and you were correct but that is beside the point of the Crop glyph makers saying one thing then acting in a manner contrary... if that is the case at all.

personally I am still hoping to see a fish or a lizard by tomorrow morning... but I am not holding my breath.

Edit to add: after checking out that website about the circle makers and referencing my own copy of Secrets in the fields I am much more inclined to say that the dragon fly is a hoax... Mostly because it has a known hoaxers tag in the top circle or main body of the largest circle... The tag would be their "U"s

What a bunch of jerks those crop circle hoaxers are. I mean you have one real phenomena mixed in with a fake on because a bunch of drunk english wanna play in the fields to prove a point.

I guess I shall go back to reading up on the jellyfish thread.

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Why always the secrecy, this whole thing on a global range is silly. If the ET's were really responsible for this, why keep it only in the dark. what's is the point?.But I guess the gullible people need something to entertain their minds, that must be why magazines like the National Enquirer are always so popular to those that can't filter reality.This image making thing use to be entertaining when I was 10, since then I have graduated to higher education and have the ability to separate fact from entertainment, like magic shows. Soon we will see a picture of a unicorn. Crop circles.... eeesshhh.

Here's an interesting link to a discussion about hoaxed crop circles:
(I would include the text, but the site says I would need permission first)

www.cropcirclesecrets.org...

It also discusses the fact that all of the confessed man-made ones and known hoaxes do not contain any of the magnetized soil particles found in the ones tauted as "genuine".

reply to post by Concept X


Thanks for the links. I'm still reading through all of it. But this line strikes me as interesting:

"The specific placement of the shapes indicates that, whoever the circlemakers are, they have an intricate knowledge of Euclidean geometry"

Knowledge of Euclidean geometry would certainly narrow the field of persons who could be responsible, no?

I have to say that as a whole I do not believe you tube vidoes as gospel -- way too easy to cut and paste a video to make it appear as a fluid amount of time. Just because the video says 2 hours elapsed, certainly does not make it so.

I should there think there are a lot more people able to edit videos than perform diagrams using Euclidean geometry.

SO lets see something real,... how about , since they possess a supreme capability to make shapes in fields,... then burn a sign into a 4 lane highway. Something a bit more difficult with a bit more believability. Something sort of " concrete" in evidence.

I was researching information regarding the crop circles and while looking I came across this site that had a shape that is very similar to the newest crop circle.

Newest crop circle:

www.cropcircleconnector.com...

The image that is similar is at the bottom of this page:

www.korncirkler.dk...

I found a description of a book that the image is taken from:

"A most unusual guide to the solar system, A Little Book of Coincidence suggests that there may be fundamental relationships between space, time, and life that have not yet been fully understood. From the observations of Ptolemy and Kepler to the Harmony of the Spheres and the hidden structure of the solar system, John Martineau reveals the exquisite orbital patterns of the planets and the mathematical relationships that govern them."

I am not sure if there is any connection here but thought I would point it out.

I love those crop shapes, very artistic. However, if you believe they are anything but man-made I think you may be the kind of person to pay a Nigerian a thousand pounds in order to claim your Nigerian lottery win.

Originally posted by lpowell0627
reply to post by dragonridr

 

How exactly do you think 40 people sit in a field night after night and create crop circles and nobody notices?

Further, there are many VERY ANGRY farmers after the circle is discovered. Or are you simply saying that all of the farmers are in on it together and those that get mad only pretend to get mad?

This is getting hard to believe for me.

I would totally go along with your theory if there were only a few a year - so that nobody would know when to expect another one. But 3 days in a row?

Please note, I am in no way saying all crop circles are genuine. But, please continue to share with me your thoughts on the above questions I asked. I will be the first to admit it if you convert me to a "crop circle hoaxer believer".

Its part game fooling croppies as they call them.Its part art there is a high degree of skill involved.And its part sport since its all about reputation. And then theres the money there is a lot of money to be made in crop circles but only as long as people believe in them. That is why they admit to some but not all usually the high press crop circles are not claimed and only the circle makers actually know who made it.

Here is a link i think it explains better than i can.

Fellowship of the rings

this is amazing. The detail is extraordinary. I wish I could see one for real. I have not heard of crop circle clubs before but shall look into them.

Originally posted by titorite
reply to post by Flux8

 

You were right flux8 On june 5th we got that trinity crop glyph... So the tentacles were meant to throw people off? Why? Doesn't that go against their message of opposition to all forms of deception...

The tentacles weren't part of 'their' message. It wasn't part of the original CC. 'They' didn't do it. It seems that the original CC must have been discovered before the public got knowledge of it and was defaced by some person or group. The 'artistry' is the tell. The circles and inner details are sophisticated, the tentacles are not... not even close. And the original has elements of previous CCs (CCs within a CC). As for the dragon fly, that was probably created by the same group of people who added the tentacles, as a red herring to pull researchers away from the true messages/meanings. It's not consistent with any of the symetrical CCs of the past and offers no new knowledge inheirent in it's form. It's deception.

As to why a group would want to do that, well it doesn't take that much imagination...

I speculate the reason the Wiltshire seems to be such a hotspot for CCs (and orbs/UFOs/spectral phenomenon) is it's a nexus of dimensional planar connections or vertices. The Euclidean geometries, the references to known cymatic morphologies of certain frequencies, fractals, references to celestial systems/events, the incorporation of objects in the environment with the CCs, magnetic declinations, EM phenomenon and trilling sounds heard within proximity of the circles, etc etc etc, well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put it together. 'They're' telling us how to get to them, and there are people who don't want us to do that.

reply to post by dragonridr


Nicely explained, and nice links

Originally posted by dragonridr

Originally posted by lpowell0627
reply to post by dragonridr

 

How exactly do you think 40 people sit in a field night after night and create crop circles and nobody notices?

Further, there are many VERY ANGRY farmers after the circle is discovered. Or are you simply saying that all of the farmers are in on it together and those that get mad only pretend to get mad?

This is getting hard to believe for me.

I would totally go along with your theory if there were only a few a year - so that nobody would know when to expect another one. But 3 days in a row?

Please note, I am in no way saying all crop circles are genuine. But, please continue to share with me your thoughts on the above questions I asked. I will be the first to admit it if you convert me to a "crop circle hoaxer believer".

Its part game fooling croppies as they call them.Its part art there is a high degree of skill involved.And its part sport since its all about reputation. And then theres the money there is a lot of money to be made in crop circles but only as long as people believe in them. That is why they admit to some but not all usually the high press crop circles are not claimed and only the circle makers actually know who made it.

Here is a link i think it explains better than i can.

Fellowship of the rings

These a man made? Rubbish.

You have provided a link that is the Blossom Goodchild of crop circles. If ever there was a dodgy link - and article - this is it.

Well done on debunking NOTHING (once again). Crop circles are the elephant in the living room and if you believe articles like that you really are off the chart.

Perhaps you can provide a link with photos of the alleged crop circle maker and his wares - perhaps you can also find his location so we can go and talk with him ? No? Thought not.

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Okay, it is a bit of stretch but I see a resemblance in the flare.

Even if it is not a perfect match for this one maybe it will be a better match for the one they say is coming.