First A Jellyfish, Now A Dragonfly... Giant Crop Circles Just Get Weirder

Originally posted by Magus of Truth
I will add something again.
This is the work of a lot of people a group that's devoted to doing this kind of crazy art stuff.
The crop circle does not look 100% perfect, It looks 90% which is very good either way.
My last thing I want to say is there is no evidence of aliens doing this.
The farmer provides the field, the artists with permission from the farmer circle the crop and makes his art and the media covers the story. They were all in on it.
This took a while to make or a day or two one again I dont know how fast these things could be made... and why would the reporters(media) tell you a thing like that took more that a day to crate then it would not be so mysterious.

Agree with the above poster on this one....

In reply to 'ufoptics', "but to all you saying humans with boards and ropes are doing this are just plain skeptics looking for another topic to argue on"....no its called looking at the facts u have before jumping to the conclusion Aliens did it and are trying to tell us/warn us of something!!


People can make cropcircles and make lots of MONEY from it!!!

coca cola crop circle
www.stormcat.us...

Nike crop circle
www.circlemakers.org...

weetabix crop circle
www.circlemakers.org...


In todays guardian they discuss the new crop circles "its raining shapes everyday"...worth a read.

"Formations are now regularly commissioned by multinational companies, advertising agencies and the media. Nike, Pepsi, BBC1, Greenpeace, Sky, Weetabix, Big Brother, Mitsubishi, Thompson Holidays and O2 have all paid circle-makers tens of thousands of pounds for a night's work. They have been made for pop videos, corporate parties, TV dramas and ads. The Sun paid for one to publicise its campaign to bring the Olympics to Britain.

From being genuinely intriguing, amusing and innocent folk art, the formations have become worth millions of pounds to the Wiltshire tourist industry. Farmers, too, can make thousands of pounds, either in compensation from companies wanting to have their logos plastered in their fields, or from charging people £2 each to walk in a circled field. One farmer near Stonehenge is said to have made about £30,000 by charging tourists to visit circles on his land. "

www.guardian.co.uk...

reply to post by burntheships


Maybe we do.

Knowledge is power.

Imagine what we could do if we stopped hating each other and worked together for the common goal of mere survival?

If we stopped all the wars, stopped making and spending bogus money and spent our efforts and talents on focusing on a solution and making it work.

The mental abilities, the genius, the physical abilities of the people of this planet is legendary,

There is not a village on this planet that does not have at least one person that is more than unique and beyond special.

We have each been born on this planet for a reason.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if we finally found out what it is?

I want everyone on this thread to have the opportuity to read what was posted on the Jellyfish thread...by a couple that actually visited the Jellyfish crop circle, and took pictures.

His posts are here with photos!

Here

Here

And here

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reply to post by slinkey10


I agree that there could be money to be made....for the one that did it. Of course, that person would have to be known and be getting paid from someone.

WHO ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE??? Show me one. I'm begging you. (and no, i do not consider a symbol of nike to be anywhere the same as the jellyfish, dragonfly, etc.)

Further, if the farmers are in on it and getting paid, why then do so many get angry and forbid anyone from entering their fields?? I would assume they would make more money if they just charged admission?!

I find it hard to believe that ALL of these FARMERS are in on it, along with an entire group of people, and nobody's caught them yet?

You suggest it takes more than a day to create. And nobody saw anything?? Highly unlikely -- there are a lot more people that want to prove these are HOAXES than want to believe they're real. And they certainly can'y be paying off everybody.

Enlighten me, please.


Edit to add: I have no doubt that companies would pay big bucks to have their logos embrazened for all to see. There is a huge distinction between those circles and the ones we are talking about. But notice how you found the information about those?

Lastly, I don't think a farmer charging admission necessarily knew about it ahead of time. Perhaps he rather just capitialized on it.

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I find crop circles fascinating. I find it very hard to believe these are man made. I know there have been alot of man made crop circles in the past, and probably recently. But when you look at the complexity of some of the designs it becomes apparent that it wasn't created in the dark in only a few hours.

There is a video on YouTube of a team of people making the FireFox logo into a crop circle. It's brilliant but nothing compared to the more complex crop circles we see. Also take into account that they had a team or people, worked through the day, and had a helicopter to check it from up high every now and again.

Sorry if this has been mentioned in this thread but I'm not reading all 12 pages before I go to bed.

Anyway, my point is how on earth can people, even a large team of people, make some of these crop circles through the night. They either done a serious amount of planning or there are unknown forces at work. The dragonfly and jellyfish are no exception. Fascinating.

Keep watching the skies.

...and the crops.

If you want to see a picture of one that is most likely man-made, and not a logo of a company, here's one:

www.cropcircleconnector.com...

Look how uneven and "messy" it is.

One they have been debunked - the original maker here in the UK has been on TV admiting it

two - they earn coin for the land owners - many people flock to the site and guess what - are asked to contribute to view the spectacle

- and yes that is very beautiful - fair play to the team that did is - but sorry no aliens just some keen artist with an eye on an opportunity

reply to post by slinkey10


Yes but these show up overnight and your article even says one of the more complex ones ( last you linked) took several days and 16 hours to do.

reply to post by Silk


Could you provide references please? I'd like to read that for myself.

reply to post by Silk


One - he admitted to some. Not for every crop circle that has ever or WILL ever appear.

Two - it's not as if there is only one! There are as many as 3 - 4 per week.

***Three - There are some who will always cash in on things. Look at how much money was made from designer swine flu masks. That doesn't mean that swine flu doesn't exist or that the ones making the masks made the virus. It means someone found a way to profit from it. Two totally different things.

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I challenge anyone to make this crop circle in one night....undetected!


www.cropcircleresearch.com...

reply to post by Argyll


Actually - that's one that I have in my "hoax" collection.

Edit to add: I'm been studying crop circles for about 5 years and have no proof that's it's a hoax. I only base it on the field studies, ground photos, and several crop specialists' reports.

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Originally posted by Silk
One they have been debunked - the original maker here in the UK has been on TV admiting it

The original maker appeared on TV? Hard to believe since there are written reports of crop circles in the UK (as was posted) dating back to the 17th century. That original maker must be really old

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any connections with the area displayed in one of the dragonflies' circles of the atlantic ocean with the air france and this www.abovetopsecret.com... ?

reply to post by lpowell0627



I'd be interested to see those reports mate

reply to post by Argyll


These are some of the excerpts I based my thoughts on:

1:
Update - 27th July 2003
"I've received a number of emails regarding the small LED device found in the field. "
"I've no idea what it could be used for other than a sighting device in the dark. It might have been dropped by hoaxers or it may have been deliberately 'planted' by debunkers/hoaxers."

Link: www.cropcircleresearch.com...

2:
"They may have been the ones who actually taught us to speak their language (a long time ago). But why on earth (or better: why off earth) would they employ a binary encoding to spell out a message? If they can produce such high-quality graphical images in the fields, why didn't they simple write the message in the field? If they know the ASCII character set, they also know the characters! So why do they have to stylize the shape of a CD to give us a (most obvious) clue that the dots inside the circle are actually a binary code? It simply does not make sense at all. "
Link: mmmgroup.altervista.org...

3:
"What ever is the origin of this one, it is clearly very "humanly" executed in terms of the graphic style (leave alone the actual ground work at the moment). It is a photo of an alien similar to some seen in science fiction films. It is a binary code (used in human computers), displaying an ASCII code (ASCII being a set of 8-bit definitions for letters, numbers and other characters). It is apparently made either BY or FOR human beings (or both)."
Link: www.martinkeitel.net...

I'll keep looking through my notes for more.

Originally posted by lpowell0627
reply to post by slinkey10

 

I agree that there could be money to be made....for the one that did it. Of course, that person would have to be known and be getting paid from someone.

WHO ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE??? Show me one. I'm begging you. (and no, i do not consider a symbol of nike to be anywhere the same as the jellyfish, dragonfly, etc.)

Further, if the farmers are in on it and getting paid, why then do so many get angry and forbid anyone from entering their fields?? I would assume they would make more money if they just charged admission?!

I find it hard to believe that ALL of these FARMERS are in on it, along with an entire group of people, and nobody's caught them yet?

You suggest it takes more than a day to create. And nobody saw anything?? Highly unlikely -- there are a lot more people that want to prove these are HOAXES than want to believe they're real. And they certainly can'y be paying off everybody.

Enlighten me, please.

Edit to add: I have no doubt that companies would pay big bucks to have their logos embrazened for all to see. There is a huge distinction between those circles and the ones we are talking about. But notice how you found the information about those?

Lastly, I don't think a farmer charging admission necessarily knew about it ahead of time. Perhaps he rather just capitialized on it.

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I know, I kind of agree with what you are saying. The corperate ones aren't as intricate as the dragonfly, jellyfish...et al..however; I was trying to point out to the people who think they cant be man made, they can and are. Read the guardian article! It will explain who these people are

"One group, now calling themselves the Circlemakers, includes situationist artists Rod Dickinson and John Lundberg, the sculptor Gavin Turk, Rob Irving and others. They say on their website that they latched on to the circle believers, created images from reading the same books that the believers read, and that they now team up with other teams of circle-makers to create ambitious formations. Together they say they have made crop circles an essential part of our popular culture, part of the myth of the English countryside.

"We weren't pushing paint around on a canvas that sat in a sterile gallery environment; we were quite literally forming and shaping the culture that surrounded us," Lundberg said in 2004. "We are the heretics, calling their belief system into question by the mere fact that we exist and talk about our circle-making activities."

www.guardian.co.uk...

And yes you would think that the intricate ones would take 'people' more than a night to make if 'people' made them...

How do you/we know they didnt take longer, when we only have the media's 'word' they appeared overnight?

Also I'm pretty sure someone like the British artist 'Banksy' could do this...www.banksy.co.uk...

And yes I do believe some of the crop circles are alien in origin however; after listening to the podcast that I posted a link for on page2
www.matrixmasters.net...

It kind of changed my mind, you think the British Government arnt the experts in disinfo....lol...

funny how they only appear in the UK...

And I stand by what I said...the jellyfish looks like its not man made, the dragonfly looks amatuer!!!!!!!!

its quite amazing that everybody is concentrating on the design and very few on the message behind it.I believe it has to do with global warming and this is a quite clear message .The jellyfish is always present when the sea warm up after warm winters .the rotating circles show effectively all the seas that compose the globe(global warming).As for the dragonfly it is also found in warm areas or areas that have warmed upand a vector of diseases just like the mosquitoes. i m trying to post three links that may have the keys to these 2 cropcircles and maybe the following ones.

[url=http://www.peopleandplanet.net/doc.php?id=774]


[url=http://newsletter.vitalchoice.com/e_article001173321.cfm?x=b68Pq10,b1kJpvRw,w]

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Originally posted by detane
its quite amazing that everybody is concentrating on the design and very few on the message behind it.I believe it has to do with global warming and this is a quite clear message .The jellyfish is always present when the sea warm up after warm winters .the rotating circles show effectively all the seas that compose the globe(global warming).As for the dragonfly it is also found in warm areas or areas that have warmed upand a vector of diseases just like the mosquitoes. i m trying to post three links that may have the keys to these 2 cropcircles and maybe the following ones.

[url=http://www.peopleandplanet.net/doc.php?id=774]


[url=http://newsletter.vitalchoice.com/e_article001173321.cfm?x=b68Pq10,b1kJpvRw,w]

[url=http://newsletter.vitalchoice.com/e_article001173321.cfm?x=b68Pq10,b1kJpvRw,w]

"its quite amazing that everybody is concentrating on the design and very few on the message behind it"

Im personally trying to ascertain weather it is man/alien made first, before de-constructing what it means!!!!

Why dont the 'aliens' make a honey bee design, the honey bee is dying out. en.wikipedia.org...

and for that matter all the other endangered wildlife that humans are slowly killing... guess there wouldnt be enough fields for that.....

And yes we know our planet is screwed, why dont the 'aliens' send us some clear ideas of how to make it 'better'

oh yeah I forgot, they are so advanced they can only communicate in mathmatical, geometrical symbols which represent pi in some way- 3.141592654.

Originally posted by slinkey10

Originally posted by lpowell0627
reply to post by slinkey10

 

And yes I do believe some of the crop circles are alien in origin however; after listening to the podcast that I posted a link for on page2
www.matrixmasters.net...

It kind of changed my mind, you think the British Government arnt the experts in disinfo....lol...

funny how they only appear in the UK...

And I stand by what I said...the jellyfish looks like its not man made, the dragonfly looks amatuer!!!!!!!!

I'll make a believer out of you yet!! Ha Ha - just kidding.

To add: I am in no way saying ALL crop circles are not man-made. In fact, I would tend to argue that there are more man-made ones than real.

BUT - there have been people who actually stayed out to try to catch people making them and then found one the next morning - in close proximity to where there were. (yes, I'm looking for the link

)

What intrigues me about the dragonfly are the veins in the wings - traditional pictures tend to not include the veins. Also, the symmetry and use of "11". Plus, if you look at the progression of the circles in the body, it does appear as Earth does now, and then changes progressively. Just more food for thought.

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