The Emergence of President Obama's Muslim Roots

By chance, has anyone looked up his sisters name. And then gone and checked out what those 2 names mean( translate to ) ?

Originally posted by Heisenberg
Well, the Liberal has belched!

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yup...it's from the crap fed to us for the last eight years.

It amazes me that people can say who cares? You wouldnt hire a lawyer without first finding out how much experience he has. You can trawl the internet for hours to find the right person to come and paint your house. You buy a car and you want to know the full history of it.
And yet...you can have a POTUS who has secreted all his background...nobody is sure of his true religion...his school records are kept under wraps....his medical records...his birth certificate. etc etc. Plus all his previous dubious connections (weather underground and the like).

Two years in the U.S. Senate. Seven years in the Illinois Senate. One loss in a primary election for the U.S. House of Representatives. One stirring keynote address at a Democratic National Convention. Two best-selling books.
That's Barack Obama's political résumé. Is it enough to qualify him to be president?

www.usatoday.com...
I remeber seeing a video during the elections asking the general public what they knew about Obama...it was very enlightening.

That was not crap....it was your ranting and ravings, trying to pawn it off as some sort of enlightened musing. L-I-B.reply to post by jimmyx

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you ve been lied to all the time!!!People put Obama on top were christians!!Americans like you and me pls,,save me that bull#!You guys digging to much.and to deep, i mean i am not a Obamania victim but come on you guys...why you thing the whole world dont like americans?Because" we" are so ignorant but who cares about the world community right?...bring facts to the table and THEN find a solution!!!

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
By chance, has anyone looked up his sisters name. And then gone and checked out what those 2 names mean( translate to ) ?

wha?? what's wrong with you? who cares? what does that have to do with public policy or fixing america?

Ok so back on topic ...which is he?

Is he a closet Muslim terrorist hell bent on killing white christian people and of course joos?

Is he a radical black christian theology black panther domestic terrorist hell bent of revenge for slavery?


Is he an NWO Bildeberger eugenicist out to destroy or enslave 4/5 of the planet?


I guess it depends on the day probably.

It comes down to this, does ATS want to be a forums where people have to back up their claims with evidence or a place where right wing lunatics can spew their daily breast feeding from the teets of Limbaugh, Hannity or worse.

Knock it off and discuss real policy with real alternatives instead of pure garbage. You are smarter than that.

[edit on 3-6-2009 by AllexxisF1]

Originally posted by Heisenberg
That was not crap....it was your ranting and ravings, trying to pawn it off as some sort of enlightened musing. L-I-B.reply to post by jimmyx

 

face it...you guys lost the election 8 months ago, you can't turn back the clock. man up and deal with it, besides obama is hardly a liberal, he's a centrist.

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I believe it is called "checking things out". The mentality of "how does that matter" is just a request or suggestion to not consider every scrap of information available. As dumb as it may sound to you...some people might not want to buy a car from a guy whose Father's name is Hitler. Most people, I think, would like to know absolutely everything possible before spending thousands of dollars. Maybe we should want the same level of information before electing a President.

Or is the dollar more important than our freedom?

www.humanevents.com...


Obama’s top legal pick: Sharia law could appy in U.S. courts Harold Koh.

Say he wants to establish Sharia in America?

Would that be ok with you?

Actually a little dose of morality wouldn't be a bad thing.

10. Islam commands that drinkers and gamblers should be whipped.

9. Islam allows husbands to hit their wives even if the husbands merely fear highhandedness in their wives.

. Islam allows an injured plaintiff to exact legal revenge—physical eye for physical eye.

Islam commands that a male and female thief must have a hand cut off

6. Islam commands that highway robbers should be crucified or mutilated.

5. Islam commands that homosexuals must be executed.

4. Islam orders unmarried fornicators to be whipped and adulterers to be stoned to death

. Islam orders death for Muslim and possible death for non—Muslim critics of Muhammad and the Quran and even sharia itself.

2. Islam orders apostates to be killed.

Islam commands offensive and aggressive and unjust jihad.

One of the most tragic and under—reported occurrences in the West in recent years is the existence of a sharia court in Canada. Muslims are pushing for a sharia divorce courting Australia as well. Having a court of arbitration if it is based on western law and legal theory is legitimate, but sharia does not hold to this standard. Whether sharia is imposed gradually or rapidly, Canada should promptly shut down any sharia court, and Australia should never allow one. Such a court should never be permitted in the US, the rest of the West, or anywhere else in the world that is battling Islam.

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So I guess that means "shut up" and stop voicing our opinions? Is that what you are actually suggesting on a site called "Above Top Secret" to a bunch of people who are only here to learn and offer opinions?

Is that how you suggest ruling the country..."Shut up"?

His sisters name is Maya (Illusion) Kassandra ( Cassandra Syndrome ).
I find that intriguing.

Originally posted by Heisenberg
Mythical being? You need to read Pascal's Wager. You are on the losing end of the bet.

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LOL SOMEBODY CITED PASCAL'S WAGER! Pascal's wager is ridiculously stupid - there are so many different religions with so many different gods that saying "what if you're wrong?" applies to every belief of every kind. What if you're wrong about christianity and Zeus is the true god? What if you're wrong about judaism and Hinduism is the true religion? What if you're wrong about Islam and Scientology is correct?

Pascal's wager is ridiculous - to say "you better be part of my religion or you'll go to hell!" is BEYOND silly, especially because there are SO MANY religions, all of which consider the other religions to be incorrect and worthy of burning and suffering BECAUSE they're incorrect.

Furthermore, Pascal's wager assume that there's only two possibilities - god exists and he will reward you for believing or punish you for not believing. But even if there is a god, it might not even CARE about belief. God might reward individuals based on their actions and whether they tried to be a good person or not in their life. God might PUNISH blind faith, or faith for the sake of trying to get a reward. God might just reward people based on their kindness, honesty, valor, compassion, etc REGARDLESS of faith. God might even reward those who at least attempt honest, logical reasoning and punish those who don't think.

Pascal's wager is ridiculous because it assumes that only two things are possible and that god will only reward based on belief. But the assumptions are fundamentally flawed, especially because in most religions simple belief isn't enough to get a reward from god or like I said, god might not even care about belief at all.

Finally, how about the anti-wager: What if god DOESN'T exist and YOU'RE wrong?

Suppose we grant that there is indeed some small chance that God exists. Nevertheless, it could be said that you will lead a better, fuller life if you bet on his not existing, than if you bet on his existing and therefore squander your precious time on worshipping him, sacrificing to him, fighting and dying for him, etc.

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Not to mention the "57" states slip that just rolled right off of his tongue during a town hall meeting... people can say "Oh, he was just tired and said the wrong number...", well that may be true but it is awful interesting that there happens to be 57 Islamic states (shouldn't the "FUTURE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. know how many U.S. states there are??? I mean, really...)

Obama 57 States Gaffe

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Originally posted by AllexxisF1
Ok so back on topic ...which is he?

Is he a closet Muslim terrorist hell bent on killing white christian people and of course joos?

Is he a radical black christian theology black panther domestic terrorist hell bent of revenge for slavery?


Is he an NWO Bildeberger eugenicist out to destroy or enslave 4/5 of the planet?


I guess it depends on the day probably.

It comes down to this, does ATS want to be a forums where people have to back up their claims with evidence or a place where right wing lunatics can spew their daily breast feeding from the teets of Limbaugh, Hannity or worse.

Knock it off and discuss real policy with real alternatives instead of pure garbage. You are smarter than that.

[edit on 3-6-2009 by AllexxisF1]

aahh..some wisdom finally, good post allexxis...but unfortunately it will not stop them. just watch for how many posts are put up every day along this very subject. even i'm not happy with everything obamas done, but he is not a dictator, he has other branches of government to deal with, and congress represents many diverse opinions throughout this country.

Originally posted by scrubsnstuffkim
reply to post by Stormdancer777

 

Not to mention the "57" states slip that just rolled right off of his tongue during a town hall meeting... people can say "Oh, he was just tired and said the wrong number...", well that may be true but it is awful interesting that there happens to be 57 Islamic states (shouldn't the "FUTURE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. know how many U.S. states there are??? I mean, really...)

Obama 57 States Gaffe

[edit on 3-6-2009 by scrubsnstuffkim]

I must say, " how does one make such a mistake?"

"My Muslim religion," would never just roll off my tongue. lol

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Hahahaaaa...

Freudian slip any goooood?

I haven't seen this, great stuff.

He was as casual as can be.

Originally posted by AllexxisF1
It comes down to this, does ATS want to be a forums where people have to back up their claims with evidence

Is that a suggestion that ATS censor it's members?

or a place where right wing lunatics

Because we are insane for having different views?

can spew their daily breast feeding from the teets of Limbaugh, Hannity or worse.

Does "worse" include liberals and Democrats also...or just us pesky thinkers?

Knock it off and discuss real policy with real alternatives instead of pure garbage. You are smarter than that.
[edit on 3-6-2009 by AllexxisF1]

Sorry...I already responded to the "shut up" request.
No thank you.

[edit on 6/3/2009 by WeAreAWAKE]

My question is, Why do we citizens continue to elect people into the government that down the road we will know that they lied before in order to get elected? It seems to me that we are use to the idea that not telling the truth is just part of the political game. In the real world we should be intolerant to this kind of behavior. We should be responsible in making sure that our representatives say what they mean and not let them lie about it.

Brian Williams says goodnight to President Obama with a bow.